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It's all a show from Marvel now to pump shit content, go into a drought, then comeback with a home run with some new superhero or something.

They will make people think their content is bad, so after a year (or two) they make a new (good) movie that everyone shills at and they call it the "Marvel renaissance" and start all over again.

This is the Disney way, and is no coincidence it started after it was aquired by Disney. This is what they do. It worked for them before and it will work now.
Your take has too much "I was pretending to be retarded" energy for me to believe that's happening.
They'd have to actually make a good movie for that to be successful. Call me a pessimist, but I don't see the godawful writing getting fixed without a MAJOR overhaul up to and including firing the entire writing staff they have at the moment. Possibly even clean house at the executive level. And even with that there's no guarantee that whoever they hire will be any better.
They had a great excuse to dump them all with the writers strike, baffled they didn't take it.
Well there you go! Not all the checks bounced.
 
This is the Disney way, and is no coincidence it started after it was aquired by Disney. This is what they do. It worked for them before and it will work now.
The disney rennaisance was literally a one time fluke as a result of brilliant artists coming toogether in a once in a generation opportunity.

This is absolutely not "what disney does".
 
By the way folks, for those who don't watch the summaries.

Captain Marvel's Badguy stole it's plan from Spaceballs.

No, really...they want to steal the Air from a planet.
 
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• Fantastic Four - May 2, ‘25
people online have been saying it for awhile and i know marvel wont do it because they're fucking stupid but have the FF go up into space that magical week of the Stark Expo or before it, back before everyone knew superheros existed and have it be a fish out of water comedy. These guys come back down with their powers but its mainly focused on them being 15 years out of sync with their new world where superheros exist. Reed's best friend Tony is dead and there are plenty of people smarter than him in the pecking order now and Reed just can't handle it. Johnny goes from a 15 year old jock worried about updating his myspace to now being a weirdo for not having grown up with smart phones or modern day internet, Sue's arc could be similar, she's the blonde bombshell who's in a world where women don't act like paris hilton or maybe for the first time people see beyond the bimbo persona and she finally gets a shot at having people actually listen to her. Ben's arc would be the funniest with him having a typical 2000s era view of being turned into a monster but in a post-superhero over sexed up world he goes from an over weight schlubby human to a lot of people's monster fetish. I'm even imagining a scene whining about creepshots of him and Sue going "not so fun is it?" Also either keep Dr.Doom for the sequel and do a sillier villian to keep it focused more on the hero's plight the same way they pulled off with Thor 1 or have it be a low scale thing like him barely discovering his powers. i'm also imagining him returning to his country after 15 years and its thriving somehow, like maybe they got the contracts for actually cleaning up cities where superheros destroy shit or they're responsible for the stuff they put in smartphones to make them work or some other McGuffin that leads to the country doing absurdly amazing in his absence so now he goes from silly foreign man to a real threat. Maybe Sokovia was keeping them down this entire time and once that country got destroyed the country just exploded in wealth and power and because of how close they are to the place responsible for the accords no one wants to interfere.

I know people are talking about doing that stupid "they're from the 1960s and now they're here and its like Austin powers but much worse!" plot leak but at least with my idea it really plays into this whole continuity lock out people are complaining about, if you stopped watching marvel or didn't catch up in the last 5 years this film would be a sort of in-house parody that would catch people up. It would also be a fun acknowledgement to how much shit has changed from phase 1. Just look how women were treated in Iron Man 1/2 vs The Marvels in terms of sexualization, Tony blatantly fucking the woman journalist and having his flight attendants dance on strip poles vs every woman covered up like a mormon. Then there's the quips, as much as people whine about it being part of Marvel, outside of the avengers the jokes are fairly few. The incredible hulk being more of a drama even. You could even have a joke about the post-credit scenes, with Reed looking confused because he thought everything was over and who the hell is this new person.

Everyone talks about The Boys when it comes to "superhero parodies" but no one's really taken Marvel for its bullshit yet. Also by making it such a relatively low stakes film means it will be easier for them to film. There's no way in hell its making that release date if its another $200 million bullshit movie. its literally 18 months away and we don't have a casting announcement yet. So this has to be a $90 million film at the most, or that release date is changing.
If she doesn't want to be treated badly maybe she shouldn't shit on white people and men in interviews.
Remember the Imagine video? a lot of actors just said their agents told them to sing and didn't even tell them what it was for, they're just so used to doing what someone says they don't factor in what it might be for. they're the ultimate Milgram experiment torturers. I'm sure eventually we'll hear from some PR or agent leak that they were told by their agent "hating on white people or men will improve your Q score" it just feels so odd how often these celebs are tuned into the latest twitter normal takes. It reminds me of Anya Joy talking in an interview about being into crystals and tarot and someone pointing out in the comments "they tell these people beforehand the questions dummy" like do people really think these celebrities can manage to answer 100 questions in the span of 9 minutes without thinking about them? And literally none of them come out looking bad? Its like how up until the late 2000s most people believed reality shows were authentic. Eventually someone will be like "the Israel loving kikes at the head of these agencies told us to talk shit about white people" and everyone will go "no we knew that all along despite our actions saying otherwise"

Media ain't even trying to spin it.
disney and the media in general get more cool points letting people be honest, the MCU has fuck all being released until 2025 so they might as well let this phase die on the vine and do a soft reboot in 2025.
 
Can any of the five people who watched the Miss Marvel show tell me how Kamala's 'Captain Marvel Superfan' shtick functions in a continuity where Carol's only public appearance is probably a list of names of the unknown heroes who joined the Endgame fight?
 
Can any of the five people who watched the Miss Marvel show tell me how Kamala's 'Captain Marvel Superfan' shtick functions in a continuity where Carol's only public appearance is probably a list of names of the unknown heroes who joined the Endgame fight?
Because the plot says so.
 
Can any of the five people who watched the Miss Marvel show tell me how Kamala's 'Captain Marvel Superfan' shtick functions in a continuity where Carol's only public appearance is probably a list of names of the unknown heroes who joined the Endgame fight?
It seemed like she was one of the few who gave a shit about Carol. There was a statue of CM at Avengercon, but it's hard to say just how popular she is overall.
 
people online have been saying it for awhile and i know marvel wont do it because they're fucking stupid but have the FF go up into space that magical week of the Stark Expo or before it, back before everyone knew superheros existed and have it be a fish out of water comedy. These guys come back down with their powers but its mainly focused on them being 15 years out of sync with their new world where superheros exist. Reed's best friend Tony is dead and there are plenty of people smarter than him in the pecking order now and Reed just can't handle it. Johnny goes from a 15 year old jock worried about updating his myspace to now being a weirdo for not having grown up with smart phones or modern day internet,
that sounds better than it should
"so... like, what's your name?"
"Johnny Storm"
"but you're on fire, that's not a storm power, your superhero name is dumb"
"no, that's my name"
"what"
 
that sounds better than it should
"so... like, what's your name?"
"Johnny Storm"
"but you're on fire, that's not a storm power, your superhero name is dumb"
"no, that's my name"
"what"
I remember another fun theory/joke that they should make canon is that Reed Richards was calling himself Mr.Fantastic even before he got superpowers, like that part is just a happy little coincidence. Maybe him coming back 15 years later leads to people digging up his old reality show audition where he gives himself that name and it just adds fuel to the fire that people see him and the others as a joke. In a world where black teenage girls are inventing their own Iron Man suits some guy thats stretchy or another thats on fire or another that has super strength isn't really that fantastic. I'm sure they've invented invisibility suits and shields by now too.
 
I remember another fun theory/joke that they should make canon is that Reed Richards was calling himself Mr.Fantastic even before he got superpowers, like that part is just a happy little coincidence. Maybe him coming back 15 years later leads to people digging up his old reality show audition where he gives himself that name and it just adds fuel to the fire that people see him and the others as a joke. In a world where black teenage girls are inventing their own Iron Man suits some guy thats stretchy or another thats on fire or another that has super strength isn't really that fantastic. I'm sure they've invented invisibility suits and shields by now too.
Why not a FF set in actual time, where the four are highschoolers who got a Youtube channel doing stupid shit (like all teenagers) named "fantastic 4" or something (cosplay, science shit, pranks, that shit).

Then Reed who is obsessed with Stark (of course) finds the blueprints of the time machine and he wants to make it with his friends, but something goes kinda wrong and they get their molecules twisted or something.

Then they start doing youtube shit with their powers but everyone thinks its fake, which is fine cause they are getting money and sponsors so they keep up the grift... Little do they know there is someone watching them (the scorpion or the penguin, don't care its the bad guy) and want them to take them to "HIM". So a bad guy is chasing them, and they end up fighting him and defeating him, only for "HIM" TO BE FUCKING DR. DOOM WHO WANTS THEM TO SHOW HIM HOW TO MAKE THE MACHINE SO HE CAN SAVE HIS MOM WHO SOLD HIS SOUL TO THE DEVIL!!!!!

I'd watch that shit. Because it's shit, silly, dumb script and not some multiverse catastrophic event that can destroy the fabric or time or something... Dumb teenagers doing dumb shit in bumfuck nowhere who at the middle point are being chased by a villain for unknown purposes.

...

Fuck, Disney should hire me as a writer.
 
, where the four are highschoolers who got a Youtube channel doing stupid shit (like all teenagers)
while its a great concept, the internet would fucking murder you. as others said, chronicle has a similar premise as does Shazam! which literally came out with a film earlier this year where the teens with superpowers battle both a doctor and a god.

That movie lost about 80 million dollars btw.
 
The Marvels is going to have the worst opening for a Marvel film since the MCU started, without even adjusting for ticket inflation, and there have been 33 of them since Iron Man came out in 2008. Captain Marvel hit a billion because it was during the high-water mark of capeflicks right after Infinity War and did over 700 million overseas because it was considered a homework assignment for Endgame. Captain Marvel and all her ancillary allies and her specific adversaries/rogue's gallery are C-list IP and this character clearly cannot be a major part of the plans for the MCU going forward.

The wish list number is now $52M, but no one really thinks Marvels is going to hit that. Even if it does, that's still a disaster. Doctor Strange And The Blah blah of Madness and Ant Man 3, two sequels running neck and neck in the "unasked for" and "needless" competitons, doubled and tripled that opening number. The last trailer had Samuel L. Jackson screaming about "black girl magic" as a last ditch effort to get blaq people to think this movie is for them.

The next movie might as well be Avengers: Infinity Payout with Disney giving actors like Robert Downey Jr and Scarlet Johanssen gigantic bags with dollar signs on the sides, filled with cash in an attempt to keep this sinking franchise from taking on more water. And there will be blood in the water when Marvels bombs, as it's looking more and more like Iger should have followed Zaslav's lead and hit flush on this cinematic turd, given the damage such a calamitous opening will do to the Marvel brand. What little of its budget The Marvels' will make back is not worth the serious dinging the MCU will take over it.

This opening will taint every movie coming out of Marvel for the next two years. What little silver lining there is, is that there won't be very many of them. Deadpool 3 is the only one releasing in 2024, next to three(!!!!!) Spider-Man-adjacent non-MCU movies from Sony. None of the Sony offerings, which deal with characters most people in the viewing audience haven't heard of, are likely to do huge business, however they at least lack the multiple albatrosses (and gargantuan bloated budgets) of Marvel's convoluted streaming serivce and movie strategy they pursued after Avengers Endgame. You won't need to have done your homework by watching any expensive-but-cheap-looking streaming TV series or remember the plots and characters of those, or the last three movies in order to "enjoy" the adventures of...uh...Madame Web?

Anyways, the MCU brand is tainted, more and more people are just not watching like they used to, and part of this can be attributed to the arrogance of the Marvel brain trust, thinking they could just put anything with the Marvel Brand out there and the viewers would keep watching, that they had a license to print money no matter the output.
 
Honestly, I really don't think it's "Superhero Fatigue" that's killing the MCU. It's SHIT MOVIE fatigue that's killing it. I've only seen two movies this year. Two movies that I've genuinely liked (Gran Turismo surprisingly, and Equalizer 3). Marvel is killing itself over DEI, and no one seems to give a shit other than call people who don't like this "racists" and "sexists".
 
Captain Marvel and all her ancillary allies and her specific adversaries/rogue's gallery are C-list IP and this character clearly cannot be a major part of the plans for the MCU going forward.
I feel it bears repeating - even among Comic Fans, Captain Marvel isn't exactly a popular character sales wise, given she's seen a reboot what feels like a dozen times since the millennium. Even with the MCU scraping the bottom of the barrel as far as ideas, she doesn't have much, if anything, to work with beyond "Gets Bodied by the Southern Belle X-Men."

Hey God, please don't let them take that last sentence literally...
 
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