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Basic Blond Boy said:
The Vulture was arguably the best villain the series produced as he had a good motivation, a strong connection to the hero, and Keaton gave a good performance as usual.
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And....two. Ten years, a hundred films, and Keaton's Vulture is on par with Thanos maybe.

Don't say Mysterio or those guys the third one lifted from other franchises though.
 
starborn427614 said:
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Cap 4 is getting a bunch of re-shoots, because of course it is.
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Meanwhile I read there were four weeks of reshoots on The Marvels. That is like the entire shooting schedule of a normal movie. Part of the problem with modern blockbuster trainwrecks is that normally studios are supposed to figure out "what is the audience for this thing" about a film and determine the budget accordingly. But increasingly they have gone into big tentpole movie projects with completely grandiose ideas about reaching $1B in box office with movies that are uninspired rehashes and reboots and a lot of these films go into production without real finished scripts, or they end production with major scheduled reshoots after the first test screenings come back.

Part of the problem is movies like these aren't produced in a systematic way by a creative team with a cohesive vision, they're Frankenstein monsters stitched together through erratic phases of development that include rewrites, reshoots, previews, wave after wave of different screenwriters, requests from the marketing people, requests from the merchandising people, massive CGI work, multiple name actor cameos, and studio notes from sociopathic execs.
 
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Commander X said:
Meanwhile I read there were four weeks of reshoots on The Marvels. That is like the entire shooting schedule of a normal movie. Part of the problem with modern blockbuster trainwrecks is that normally studios are supposed to figure out "what is the audience for this thing" about a film and determine the budget accordingly. But increasingly they have gone into big tentpole movie projects with completely grandiose ideas about reaching $1B in box office with movies that are uninspired rehashes and reboots and of these films go into production without real finished scripts, or they end production with major scheduled reshoots after the first test screenings come back.

Part of the problem is movies like these aren't produced in a systematic way by a creative team with a cohesive vision, they're Frankenstein monsters stitched together through erratic phases of development that include rewrites, reshoots, previews, wave after wave of different screenwriters, requests from the marketing people, requests from the merchandising people, massive CGI work, multiple name actor cameos, and studio notes from sociopathic execs.
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I assume it's so there's plenty of wasted money that's impossible to account for to spend on drugs and whores.
 
jspit2.0 said:
And....two. Ten years, a hundred films, and Keaton's Vulture is on par with Thanos maybe.

Don't say Mysterio or those guys the third one lifted from other franchises though.
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Would put him above Thanos in all honesty. Vulture had more grounded stakes that felt more impactful. The choice to make him the father of Peter’s crush, meaning he would ruin her life if he perused him, was a good one. The car scene is the best MCU villain interaction as a result of this.

Agree with the bottom part. Mysterio and Far From Home killed this version of Spider-Man. That movie was bad and Mysterio was a weak copycat of what they did with Vulture, worse backstory and performance. They went way overboard to hype up the character that it missed the point of Vulture being pretty low stakes world-wise.
 
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I feel really sorry for Tom Hiddleston, he had one of the more intresting characters and was sadled in one of the worst writen series of the entire MCU where he was sidelined in what was supposed to be his own series.
 
TheAmbiguousLurker said:
Why is Scarlet Witch getting revived in the post-credits scene of a movie that has nothing to do with her? Shouldn't this have been in Doctor Strange 2?
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She was killed off in DS2. She needed at least 2-3 movies to pass so you'd forget that she was ever a character before they revived her.
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Xenomorphs Are Cute said:
There's a possibility with this glimpse that Marvel might adapt the retardation which is the House of M comic event.
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The wonders of House of M which was either in part or mainly made so the writers could erase most of the mutants as things were getting really silly and flooded with super powers, like the guy who had an actual astrological star in his face. I know one really pudgy guy in his mom's sewing room that will be ecstatic when that deformed twin crawls down from the attic and speaking of that...
Positron said:
Experts in Media Literacy have a different take.
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Bob also agreed with a Timmy troon lesbian, for those keeping score at home that's a man pretending to be a woman and only wants to fuck other women, that Star Trek's greatest fans were nubile teenage girls, especially nubile lesbian teenage girls. These are the people who need corporations to shovel whatever shit into their gaping maws. They are part of the reason that we're in the state we're in. The other part is people like myself's complacency.
 
UnKillShredDur said:
The optimistic way to view this is to look at it all as a whole. They're bringing back Wanda (a mutant) while also making that black lady end up in the xmen universe.
I'll take my rainbows, but this *could* (probably won't lol) end up with Rogue taking Carl Manvers powers like everybody wants...
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People better check those monkey paws, cause they ain't gonna use 40+ Anna Paquin or anyone remotely close as Rogue. It will be some shitskin "non-binary" charisma vacuum telling Danvers to check her privilege as she steals her power.

Although that would make a good meme, which is about all there is to hope for at this point.
 
Oilspill Battery said:
I feel really sorry for Tom Hiddleston, he had one of the more intresting characters and was sadled in one of the worst writen series of the entire MCU where he was sidelined in what was supposed to be his own series.
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Eh, he's probably doing fine considering both seasons of his show are among the highest rated (small miracles given recent MCU fare). As for that sidelined thing, can't say I agree after the finale. Some might say he's the most important character in the entire MCU right now.
 
Your Starter for 10 said:
People better check those monkey paws, cause they ain't gonna use 40+ Anna Paquin or anyone remotely close as Rogue. It will be some shitskin "non-binary" charisma vacuum telling Danvers to check her privilege as she steals her power.

Although that would make a good meme, which is about all there is to hope for at this point.
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Nah, Rogue will be a troon showing he can be as strong as a real woman (TM).

Basic Blond Boy said:
Agree with the bottom part. Mysterio and Far From Home killed this version of Spider-Man. That movie was bad and Mysterious was a weak copycat of what they did with Vulture, worse backstory and performance. They went way overboard to hype up the character that it missed the point of Vulture being pretty low stakes world-wise.
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I'm still assmad about the last film fucking up all the previous series villains because "what if we saved the villains instead of killing them?" (which is both incorrect and something the Soyny game copied). It's especially rich when people lauded the character for not having an origin story only for the last film being a bastardised origin story.
 
UCT said:
Twitter people keep referring to the universe black magic lady ends up in at the end of the marvels that has Beast from the X-Men in it, the X2 Universe for some reason. We are assuming it’s because that was the best of the Fox X-Men movies but idk.
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Maybe something in the scene implies it must be pre-X3. I only vaguely remember X3, but all kinds of people died and stuff got fucked up or something. Of course Doctor Strange established that there are also infinite alternate universes where Professor X is played by Patrick Stewart, so whatever, maybe it's yet another universe where Hugh Jackman and Frasier cameo but everybody else is a fat black lesbian.

Maybe every single MCU movie takes place in a slightly different alternate universe, and that explains any continuity errors! And therefore any character can come back to life whenever for no reason, and anything can happen at any time because of reality-warping wizards, and even things that you saw happen onscreen are subject to later revision if it's convenient. Give me a comics-writing award for being a super genius, I'm qualified to be head of Marvel and/or DC.

Seems like kind of a bad sign that they're relying on Fox nostalgia instead of hard rebooting like they did with Spider-Man (initially). I assume the old FF movies are too shitty even by current MCU standards and we'll not be discussing them further.
 
JLongbone did a full watch/recap of The Marvels on Twitter. Sounds like a hilarious trashfire.

Also Nick Fury has become a comic relief character and it’s just sad.
 
starborn427614 said:
He really should've died in Secret Invasion and Talos should've taken his place. Granted, we should've gotten a good show in general but y'know...
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Nah, we needed YET ANOTHER all powerful teenage girl who is gonna totally girlboss all up and down the screen and is better than everyone.
 
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Basic Blond Boy said:
He can’t, at least not for MCU Spider-Man. He is now trapped in the Morb-verse that I believe connects to Andrew Garfield Peter. Unless we get more multiverse content, Holland will not be seeing him again.
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Given the amount of backlash it got, it will likely just get retconned. Especially since they can just use elements from Across the Spiderverse to handwave it if needed.
 
Every time I watch The Venture Brothers I think of how mindblowing it is that two guys made the best superhero content ever made in their fucking treehouse.

Disney can't do that with 500 billion dollars.
 
https://vxtwitter.com/DiscussingFilm/status/1723012566220189867?s=20
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Remember the 6.6 million
SteelPlatedHeart said:
JLongbone did a full watch/recap of The Marvels on Twitter. Sounds like a hilarious trashfire.

Also Nick Fury has become a comic relief character and it’s just sad.
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Got a link to that?
 
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