Marvel Cinematic Universe

[Stab You in the Back]

To be fair, with Tony Stark dead, the number of scientist characters they can consult in the MCU is pretty slim. Reed Richards is the obvious go-to, but I don't think he's been introduced yet in the main continuity.

I forget what Beast's specialty is, but whatever, handwave it as SCIENCE MAN DOES SCIENCE.

It'd be hilarious if Grammer just used this as a stepping stone to get back in the public eye and get some cash for 6-8 months or so and then fucking ran as Trump's VP. I could die happy if that happened.

People have literally been talking about him nonstop because they rebooted Frasier. Calm the fuck down.

 

[King Metalia]

Apart from her being an unlikeable bitch with zero appeal to anything (she's not bright, she's not pretty, she doesn't have tits or ass, she isn't interesting, her face isn't unique, she's not nice or likeable, and she has absolutely no charisma or charm whatsoever), she did something even worse, her acting was not just wooden, it was irritating. She continously made faces like a spoiled teenage brat mad that didn't get her way, she spent most of the movie posing, or being sassy, and she couldn't even sell it, because even through her acting all that emanated from her was cuntiness.

And if she wasn't such a dipshit off set, I think I would feel bad for her or not even care. Too bad.

What's with Marvel's constant attempts to turn Carol Danvers into the most stereotypical butch lesbian possible. In the comics she's supposed to be hot for fuck sake

 

[Your Starter for 10]

People have literally been talking about him nonstop because they rebooted Frasier. Calm the fuck down.

I just said it'd be hilarious. No need to get all assblasted about it.

 

[Nick Obre]

To be fair, with Tony Stark dead, the number of scientist characters they can consult in the MCU is pretty slim

Just ask any random little girl, particularly if they're brown.

Jokes aside, if Beast does indeed appear, it's gonna be because Monica gets stuck in another universe in the climax of the movie, and it's gonna be an X-Men universe.

 

[Nikes_JustDoIt]

The MCU should do a crossover with Star Wars. Just take both those dogs behind the shed at once.

There might be a story now about how Rey and Captian marvel team up and take down toxic masculinity.

 

[Mac Monster]

I guess I'm glad Kelsey GrammEr is getting more work, but, I mean, how shitty is your franchise when you have to dig THAT deep into history to dig up a memberberry that anyone wants to see. I mean if it was just in Deadpool, you could just write it off as a goof, but shoe-horning it over into the main cannon - your fucking tent-pole, even - is VERY telling.

Yes, people would rather see a decrepit old well cast, bit part white dude than your ugly, shitskin, girlboss charisma voids.

They've been struggling real hard to find replacements for the original Avengers. Every single one of their new heroes has had no lasting impact, so now they're forced to dig through all of their old shit and find characters people actually care about.

 

[ShitLurker]

guess the news came in about the multiverse- Battleworld - Marvels takes place again you guess before the reset happens troll despair.
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I forget what Beast's specialty is, but whatever, handwave it as SCIENCE MAN DOES SCIENCE.

Specialty has been irrelevant for ages, you dump Stark, Richards, Parker and McCoy into a room and they "do the science" and blammo, it works.

They've been struggling real hard to find replacements for the original Avengers. Every single one of their new heroes has had no lasting impact, so now they're forced to dig through all of their old shit and find characters people actually care about.

Well, lets look at that allstar lineup.

Niggercap
Shehulk
Captain flatass
Ant Man
Wasp
...
Some chick from Wakanda?
Shang Chi??
Ironheart???

Closest to "I may possibly give a shit about" is Ant Man and only if you squint real fucking hard. No wonder a new Avengers film doesn't even to be in the works, they have nothing to work with.

 

[Tony Martin's Force Ghost]

I watched episode 3 of Loki my god, you weren't lying about Majors fuck that was bad.

They need to shelve the movies honestly and I think approach the universe with video games every 3 years. It's cheaper and far more profitable. Look at the Spider-man games each one has been great and you are not restricted by actors etc. You just need good writers and coders with a decent backer. Hell, you can do liberal shit too and it is not regarded as trash. In the recent Spider game, there is a mission where you play as a deaf character and it's actually quite good because it is handled well and not pandering.

A good Iron Man game or Captain America would probably do gangbusters. You do really have to supervise the development process or have an idea but it would be better than what it is now. Just shitting out garbage film after garbage film just wishing for it to be profitable.

It's just all so predictable because the leaker said the Rambo would get trapped and it is obviously the X-Men universe. Grammer is really a good Beast though and even the younger one played by Nicholas Hoult is not bad but it is clear they are going with 90s X-Men universe. X-Men 3 is technically not canon either so they can actually do Phonix well.

 

[Cpl. Long Dong Silver]

The Jonathan Majors trial is heating up and it sounds like they are pulling evidence from the UK. Kang night be cooked.

 

[Calandrino]

The Jonathan Majors trial is heating up and it sounds like they are pulling evidence from the UK. Kang night be cooked.

Who did he cross? What does he know?

 

[jspit2.0]

I watched episode 3 of Loki my god, you weren't lying about Majors fuck that was bad.

They need to shelve the movies honestly and I think approach the universe with video games every 3 years. It's cheaper and far more profitable. Look at the Spider-man games each one has been great and you are not restricted by actors etc.

Or animation. Really the movies can work just fine. Your fucking Disney. You have more power than anyone. Just....literally copy paste the formulaic slop for the piggies and don't say or do anything substantive and you'll roll in the money.

You just need good writers and coders with a decent backer. Hell, you can do liberal shit too and it is not regarded as trash. In the recent Spider game, there is a mission where you play as a deaf character and it's actually quite good because it is handled well and not pandering.

Well, they do pander to the Middle East, removing flags and shit.

A good Iron Man game or Captain America would probably do gangbusters. You do really have to supervise the development process or have an idea but it would be better than what it is now. Just shitting out garbage film after garbage film just wishing for it to be profitable.

I mean, the issue is mechanically what kindof game? The Batman rocksteady games had a mechanic. Cap you could do call of duty set in WWII. Iron Man, I guess a free roam game with missions and hubs?

But synergy is the issue. These are billion dollar properties. You can't excuse, in their world of stocks and Q ratings, pushing Kamala Khan in movies and not having the SAME Kamala in games. Which we're getting an image of how successful the MCU character versions are....

It's just all so predictable because the leaker said the Rambo would get trapped and it is obviously the X-Men universe. Grammer is really a good Beast though and even the younger one played by Nicholas Hoult is not bad but it is clear they are going with 90s X-Men universe. X-Men 3 is technically not canon either so they can actually do Phonix well.

Phoenix is a cursed chalice. I've seen the bar be lowered so riduclosly to the Mariana Trench over the last decade for Marvel. But no fucking way you do Phoenix well in a two hour movie because it's a massive twenty thirty issue arc that impacted people who slowly watched Jean Grey slowly mentally devolve after growing to care about her over the course of a decade only to die due to her sins.

Wanda was their attempt to do that (because Bendis is a hack who piggybacked on Byrne) and they fucked it up.

 

[wtfNeedSignUp]

Shang Chi

I forgot he existed. It might be COVID but the Avengers films were pretty tight knit, while the new films feel like each one existing in a vacuum (at least from descriptions, no way I'm going to submit myself to them).

Or animation

Marvel doing their own version of the animated Justice League could actually tackle more interesting stories that just don't fit 150 minute runtime.

 

[Leaf Wage Slave Jr]

Phoenix is a cursed chalice. I've seen the bar be lowered so riduclosly to the Mariana Trench over the last decade for Marvel. But no fucking way you do Phoenix well in a two hour movie because it's a massive twenty thirty issue arc that impacted people who slowly watched Jean Grey slowly mentally devolve after growing to care about her over the course of a decade only to die due to her sins.

How to make Phoenix work

-Make it either a Disney Plus series or it’s own trilogy, so it actually has time to breathe
-Hire someone actually competent to direct, give them free reign as long as it connects to the rest of the MCU. Or Sam Raimi, he’s competent and actually likes comic books.
-Let him cook

Even then, it’s a crapshoot if you get something Good. The only other way I could see it is having it be a background plot in - I don’t fucking know are we on phase 6? - then have it be the Main Plot in the following phase, but the MCU is reaching a point of diminishing returns and quality.

There’d be some good irony if Phoenix was the poison pill to finally kill the MCU…

 

[Goodbye Horses]

How to make Phoenix work

-Make it either a Disney Plus series or it’s own trilogy, so it actually has time to breathe
-Hire someone actually competent to direct, give them free reign as long as it connects to the rest of the MCU. Or Sam Raimi, he’s competent and actually likes comic books.
-Let him cook

Even then, it’s a crapshoot if you get something Good. The only other way I could see it is having it be a background plot in - I don’t fucking know are we on phase 6? - then have it be the Main Plot in the following phase, but the MCU is reaching a point of diminishing returns and quality.

There’d be some good irony if Phoenix was the poison pill to finally kill the MCU…

The main thing you need for it to work is for people to actually give a shit about Jean Grey. Famke Janssen and Game of Thrones girl may be pretty to look at, but both of their Jean Greys had the charisma of damp cardboard.

 

[Terrifik]

You think it was obvious after the first time you added her to the box set instead of black widow.

Marvel marketing appears to admit Captain Marvel is not popular without Avengers: Endgame.

 

[Mr. Zed da Robot Poon Fed]

Maybe third or fourth after Two Face and Bane since the only Batman normies know is the Nolan movies. I'm not counting Ra's Al-Ghul because he didn't appear in the Nolan movies; Liam Neeson did. Movies that hate the idea of Batman BTW.

This is technically true. Ra’s Al-Ghul in the Nolan films was actually an assassin from the comic books named Henri Ducard, who just took the name of Al-Ghul rather than being Al-Ghul.

I guess I'm glad Kelsey GrammEr is getting more work, but, I mean, how shitty is your franchise when you have to dig THAT deep into history to dig up a memberberry that anyone wants to see. I mean if it was just in Deadpool, you could just write it off as a goof, but shoe-horning it over into the main cannon - your fucking tent-pole, even - is VERY telling.

Yes, people would rather see a decrepit old well cast, bit part white dude than your ugly, shitskin, girlboss charisma voids.

This speaks very poorly of the world of entertainment now. Once all these iconic figures die out, what do they have?

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You think it was obvious after the first time you added her to the box set instead of black widow.

Of course. People did the same thing to Wonder Woman and Rey and made the case for more female-led films in these franchises, not considering that the films were successful because of their involvement in the franchise and not the character/actor.

You can see this as the Star Wars sequel trilogy progressed and the sequel to Wonder Woman came out.

They need to shelve the movies honestly and I think approach the universe with video games every 3 years. It's cheaper and far more profitable. Look at the Spider-man games each one has been great and you are not restricted by actors etc. You just need good writers and coders with a decent backer. Hell, you can do liberal shit too and it is not regarded as trash. In the recent Spider game, there is a mission where you play as a deaf character and it's actually quite good because it is handled well and not pandering.

A good Iron Man game or Captain America would probably do gangbusters. You do really have to supervise the development process or have an idea but it would be better than what it is now. Just shitting out garbage film after garbage film just wishing for it to be profitable.

It's just all so predictable because the leaker said the Rambo would get trapped and it is obviously the X-Men universe. Grammer is really a good Beast though and even the younger one played by Nicholas Hoult is not bad but it is clear they are going with 90s X-Men universe. X-Men 3 is technically not canon either so they can actually do Phonix well.

I mean, shit, DC does this with their animation sector and the Injustice games, and they are better Justice League/superhero works than the live-action schlock.

 

[wtfNeedSignUp]

This is technically true. Ra’s Al-Ghul in the Nolan films was actually an assassin from the comic books named Henri Ducard, who just took the name of Al-Ghul rather than being Al-Ghul.

Pretty sure the implications was that Ras Al Ghul is a title to circumvent the supernatural origin of the character, which was a part of the "serious" Nolan Batman.

How to make Phoenix work

-Make it either a Disney Plus series or it’s own trilogy, so it actually has time to breathe
-Hire someone actually competent to direct, give them free reign as long as it connects to the rest of the MCU. Or Sam Raimi, he’s competent and actually likes comic books.
-Let him cook

Even then, it’s a crapshoot if you get something Good. The only other way I could see it is having it be a background plot in - I don’t fucking know are we on phase 6? - then have it be the Main Plot in the following phase, but the MCU is reaching a point of diminishing returns and quality.

There’d be some good irony if Phoenix was the poison pill to finally kill the MCU…

You need to setup Phoenix over an entire movie (if not two) to make it work. The original X Men films tried it but 3 was too much of a clusterfuck.

 

[Morethanabitfoolish]

And Thunderbolts might very well go the way of Batgirl. Or just get dumped onto Disney+. We'll see.

I remain sad that we are never going to get Warren Ellis Thunderbolts. Sticking Norman Osborn in charge of them was as much respect as the Civil War era deserved and despite that it was still fun.

 

[Mac Monster]

Well, lets look at that allstar lineup.

Niggercap
Shehulk
Captain flatass
Ant Man
Wasp
...
Some chick from Wakanda?
Shang Chi??
Ironheart???

Closest to "I may possibly give a shit about" is Ant Man and only if you squint real fucking hard. No wonder a new Avengers film doesn't even to be in the works, they have nothing to work with.

How could you forget about everyone's favorite, flying, Mexican elf Namor? We all know he's going to be a big player and totally not get forgotten after one film.

 

[Sniperwoof]

If they weren't retarded they'd make Ant Man the new face of the MCU. He's no Iron Man or Star Lord but Paul Rudd is probably the only MCU actor left with anything close to charm or charisma.

Too bad they're hell bent on making Captain flatass the new frontrunner.