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Product Placement said:
I heard that before, but sure not a loop hope with him being Canadian and shooting in the UK
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It doesn't matter where he's from or where he's working, it's his union membership with the WGA that prevents him from performing any writing duties (including improv) while they are striking. Plenty of WGA members aren't American citizens and work the whole world over.
 
wtfNeedSignUp said:
It's amazing how modern Hollywood is so corrupt that shows have the budget of a big film every episode, yet still look like ass in virtually every way.
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The other day I found out that the film "Your name" costed 5 million to make, and it blew my mind. Everything disney puts out costs excess of 300+ mil, where the fuck is all that money going?
 
Oilspill Battery said:
The other day I found out that the film "Your name" costed 5 million to make, and it blew my mind. Everything disney puts out costs excess of 300+ mil, where the fuck is all that money going?
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I'm a dumb dumb but I wonder if there's some game where they are overpaying companies they own to produce the films/TV shows. That company makes a profit. Then another part of the company doesn't make money back and offsets taxes claiming it as a financial loss. Lowers money to be paid out if anyone has financial back end if it's profitable.

So say the Marvel film has a production budget of $200 million. Disney orders a film from Marvel. Marvel charges the other part of Disney $300 million. Marvel pockets $100 million in profits.

Disney now needs $600 million in box office returns to pay for that $300 million investment. Despite the actual hit to the entire company is $200 million.

If the film makes lots of money. Good for Disney. When the overpriced film inevitably loses money. Makes $500 million. Disney claims a loss on their investment as they only get $250 million on that. They deduct $50 million in taxes as a failed investment.

Even though as a whole the organisation actually made $50 million. It's structured to look like a loss. Anyone that was to receive backend revenue if the film was successful then don't get anything.

Something like that... I think but I'm a dumb dumb and don't know how US tax and company laws work. I think the figures of everything being $250-300 mil seems to back this up because it makes no sense everything costs the same retardedly large figure. Unless it wasn't a fixed cost. Chosen so it's hard for anything to be successful.
 
Sniperwoof said:
Remove the shoulder pads, the wings on the helmet, and swap the elbow gloves with some fingerless gloves and it would look alright.
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I think the wings work, but they need to not be shiny. Same with other parts of the costume, it makes it look cheap and plasticky. But yeah, those shoulder pads and gloves need to go.
 
Screamer_2 said:
I'm a dumb dumb but I wonder if there's some game where they are overpaying companies they own to produce the films/TV shows. That company makes a profit. Then another part of the company doesn't make money back and offsets taxes claiming it as a financial loss. Lowers money to be paid out if anyone has financial back end if it's profitable.

So say the Marvel film has a production budget of $200 million. Disney orders a film from Marvel. Marvel charges the other part of Disney $300 million. Marvel pockets $100 million in profits.

Disney now needs $600 million in box office returns to pay for that $300 million investment. Despite the actual hit to the entire company is $200 million.

If the film makes lots of money. Good for Disney. When the overpriced film inevitably loses money. Makes $500 million. Disney claims a loss on their investment as they only get $250 million on that. They deduct $50 million in taxes as a failed investment.

Even though as a whole the organisation actually made $50 million. It's structured to look like a loss. Anyone that was to receive backend revenue if the film was successful then don't get anything.

Something like that... I think but I'm a dumb dumb and don't know how US tax and company laws work. I think the figures of everything being $250-300 mil seems to back this up because it makes no sense everything costs the same retardedly large figure. Unless it wasn't a fixed cost. Chosen so it's hard for anything to be successful.
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On one hand, Disney's been allegedly (don't think this one ever got proven, but c'mon) cooking the books for years with the theme park revenue to make up for shortfalls elsewhere, so I could believe it.

On the other hand, this feels like something that'd annoy the IRS, and the IRS doesn't really give a fuck which side you're on, it fucks everyone if Uncle Sam doesn't get his proper cut...

I think the most likely, and therefore boring, answer is that Disney and it's various studios got too used to being able to throw around Fuck You Money, but now that they need to make things that return a profit they don't have anyone who knows how to properly budget on hand.
 
My one Marvel fanatic friend, I'm talking collects Funkopops and tried to tell me Eternals was a great film, is telling me that Secret Invasion is complete ass and somehow makes Nick Fury less and less cool with each episode.

How bad is it if even a hardcore cultist like him hates it?
 
xXx: State of the Union said:
How bad is it if even a hardcore cultist like him hates it?
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Nick Fury is revealed to have a wife. He's just kind of abandoned her for years. It turns out she has been a Skrull for the entire time they have been together. He didn't know.

At the end of episode 4 a character dies. In the next episode, they are alive again. At the end of that episode, a character dies.
 
Screamer_2 said:
It turns out she has been a Skrull for the entire time they have been together. He didn't know.
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I'm pretty sure in the early conversations they show them having, they talk about the face she chose, so I think he knew
 
So, is Fury not down with the green? 'Cus both times the show asks if he would accept his wife if she wasn't presenting as human (or maybe specifically black considering how eager he is to bring up race and how 'brothers' should stick together) we get that awkward silence that implies the answer is 'no'. In which case, that's fucking hilarious.
 
TheAmbiguousLurker said:
So, is Fury not down with the green? 'Cus both times the show asks if he would accept his wife if she wasn't presenting as human (or maybe specifically black considering how eager he is to bring up race and how 'brothers' should stick together) we get that awkward silence that implies the answer is 'no'. In which case, that's fucking hilarious.
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Nick Fury says no to miscegenation
 
Nick Obre said:
I'm pretty sure in the early conversations they show them having, they talk about the face she chose, so I think he knew
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Isn't the idea of the Skrulls is "kill and replace"? Unless he knew beforehand she was a Skrull when they met, or she was a honeypot then it's disturbing as hell. Not to mention the fact that if they had sex before she admitted then it's classic tranny sex scenario/modern "rape".
 
wtfNeedSignUp said:
Isn't the idea of the Skrulls is "kill and replace"? Unless he knew beforehand she was a Skrull when they met, or she was a honeypot then it's disturbing as hell. Not to mention the fact that if they had sex before she admitted then it's classic tranny sex scenario/modern "rape".
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They don't necessarily kill and replace. They can just shapeshift into someone for the moment, and even the evil ones now technically haven't killed the people they replaced. They've got them in these machines in stasis or some shit.

And Fury knew she was a skrull, and presumably just thought she chose a random black lady and copied her appearance for that meeting. Since he liked the face, she kept it.
Only later, in the present, do they talk about who the real person was.
 
Nick Obre said:
They don't necessarily kill and replace. They can just shapeshift into someone for the moment, and even the evil ones now technically haven't killed the people they replaced. They've got them in these machines in stasis or some shit.

And Fury knew she was a skrull, and presumably just thought she chose a random black lady and copied her appearance for that meeting. Since he liked the face, she kept it.
Only later, in the present, do they talk about who the real person was.
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It only creates another massive issue, Fury is high ranking member of a top secret organization, and his fucking wife is an alien spy. It's insane he didn't quit his job out of obligation but guess it proves Niggers doing insane shit for pussy.

Also this whole "humanity knew of aliens before the first Avenger film" completely fucks the setting.
 
wtfNeedSignUp said:
It only creates another massive issue, Fury is high ranking member of a top secret organization, and his fucking wife is an alien spy. It's insane he didn't quit his job out of obligation but guess it proves Niggers doing insane shit for pussy.
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Half the point of this series has been that Fury only climbed so high because he had his House Skrulls doing spy work for him.
Which is another bit of character degradation but, you know, that's what they do now.

wtfNeedSignUp said:
Also this whole "humanity knew of aliens before the first Avenger film" completely fucks the setting.
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That it does.
Captain Marvel really fucked up everything, didn't it?

Fury not only knew there were aliens with high tech weaponry (the Kree), he had a whole lot of Skrulls working for him, he had the Tesseract in storage since the 90's, but they didn't work on it to create anti-alien weapons until Thor showed up.
 
Nick Obre said:
Half the point of this series has been that Fury only climbed so high because he had his House Skrulls doing spy work for him.
Which is another bit of character degradation but, you know, that's what they do now.
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Jesus Christ that is wrong on so many levels. This is what happens when you have writers who were never in the military and went through OPSEC. But any being with two braincells would know why letting foreign agents have massive influence over your security is a bad idea.

Nick Obre said:
That it does.
Captain Marvel really fucked up everything, didn't it?
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The moment Marvel went into prequrls it was doomed.
 
Another bad thing is Disney ripped off the skrull wife plotline from the Fantastic Four. Who had done it better over thirty years ago.
Plus Johnny Storm and the Skrull Lyja genuinely love each other after the reveal happened. At least prior to the 21th Century rolling in and Marvel repeatedly suckstarting the shotgun with every creative decision it been doing.
 
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