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Screamer_2 said:
We're halfway through and very little has happened. Who is this TV show for? How was this idea greenlit? At this stage I have to assume they are just hiring and greenlighting these shows based on a premise and not having a story.




Same. I don't know if my understanding of the politics of Hollywood are making me view his portrayal in ways it may not be intended. Or if they are literally unwilling to commit either way. I am assuming they are trying to have it both ways and can't find a balance.

They're trying to be on a soap box about how awful the human race is. We're all racist, capitalist, oppress and violent to each other. Yet the person on that soap box about that literally wants to genocide all humans for being a different species. While we're meant to feel sympathy for him being an illegal immigrant. Yet the illegal immigrants are terrorists who hate us, infiltrating society to destroy it with the aforementioned genocide plans. It's all over the place. With out any nuance.

It's interesting that the treatment of legacy white male characters being treated shitty is now being expanded to legacy black male characters. This show hates Nick Fury. Watching it I feel like I can tell Sam Jackson thinks it is shit.
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The Kree were based to eliminate the Skrulls. The Skrulls have intergalactic travel, yet choose to cause trouble on Earth. Much like how another percentage choose to live with colonizers instead of moving away.
 
Tor Lugosi said:
I was expecting some sort of Winter Soldier-esque spy thriller about Fury trying to stop a Skrull plot while having no idea who he can really trust. Instead it's largely been people standing around talking in rooms or talking while driving to another location to have another conversation.
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It's amazing how modern Hollywood is so corrupt that shows have the budget of a big film every episode, yet still look like ass in virtually every way.
 
wtfNeedSignUp said:
It's amazing how modern Hollywood is so corrupt that shows have the budget of a big film every episode, yet still look like ass in virtually every way.
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This is the endgame (pun intended) when one shifts from a merit-based employment system to an "equity"-based (or whatever buzzword) system. Shit rises to the top and rots on down.
 
Drag-on Knight 91873 said:
The Kree were based to eliminate the Skrulls. The Skrulls have intergalactic travel, yet choose to cause trouble on Earth. Much like how another percentage choose to live with colonizers instead of moving away.
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The levels of how retarded their metaphors don't work are endless. They're also constantly at odds with each other.

In this Nick Fury is a black man who has had to fight to be where he is because of mediocre white men in his way. In another scene, Nick Fury is just another mediocre human who is only where he is off the hard work of the space refugee minority.

The shows so retarded the attitude towards migrants/refugees as helpless victims. Means the writers didn't understand they're writing them as radicalised fundamentalist supremecists.

The Skrulls plot is literally fundamentalist Muslims who want to destroy the west. Versus good Muslims who don't want to. Yet I don't think the writers even understand because even the fundamentalists are victims in their eyes.
 
Sniperwoof said:
Why did they cuck out so hard with the psychological/Lovecraftian horror imagery with Multiverse of Madness? It was featured prominently in the trailers and then almost non existent in the actual film.

That could have been cool and they fucked it up.
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The people behind the scenes and a lot of the fans want the now well-established MCU house style, even a bit of true idiosyncrasy is not welcome.
 
New pic of Deadpool 3 out:

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Articles and Nudes said:
Oh yuck, so it's true then. I was kind of hoping all the WOLVERINE IN DP3!!!!! stuff was just a retarded meme.

I love Ryan Reynolds, but the Deadpool movies really irk me and I don't know why.
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Nah, after Reynolds got Jackman to agree it was inevitable. And I can't lie, seeing him forced into that costume is giving me nostalgia alongside side splitting laughter.

I think the issue with the Deadpool movies is that the first one basically spawned by doing a run around on the companies. The second one gave them too much money and too little control because of their success. And now it has been subsumed into the soulless Disney universe with the third.

I hope both actors are out after this movie, that universe does not deserve either. In the ideal world they save S.L. Jackson at the same time.
 
Morethanabitfoolish said:
Nah, after Reynolds got Jackman to agree it was inevitable. And I can't lie, seeing him forced into that costume is giving me nostalgia alongside side splitting laughter.

I think the issue with the Deadpool movies is that the first one basically spawned by doing a run around on the companies. The second one gave them too much money and too little control because of their success. And now it has been subsumed into the soulless Disney universe with the third.

I hope both actors are out after this movie, that universe does not deserve either. In the ideal world they save S.L. Jackson at the same time.
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I’d say that’s a pretty accurate summarization on everything.
 
Product Placement said:
I thought $200 budget was crazy with how it looked. Disney needs management to get their budgets under control, lot of their flops would have done fine if they had the right budget, and not like people can see the money on screen with how ugly marvel shit looks
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The problem is that they don't know what the fuck they're doing.
Doctor Strange 2 was almost finished and then 80% of it got rewritten and reshot and then effects artists had to be worked to the bone.
If there was a plan, they would just shoot the movie and then do the post-production and they could probably squeeze in at $150 million maximum.

Say what you want about Ridley Scott, the man knows how to save money.
His movies always look great and they never have giant budgets like Disney movies.
Why? He almost never does reshoots, save for stuff like All The Money In The World where the studio demanded erasing Kevin spacey and replacing him with Christopher Plummer.
He has a vision from the start and he executes it.
Doesn't always work but it's better than what Disney is doing and definitely more cost effective.
 
The Nothingness said:
While Wolverine is in the yellow and blue uniform for the consoomers, maybe there is a reason why not everything from the comics translates well into live action.
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Recalls the line from the first X-men movie 23 years ago: "Well, what would you prefer? Yellow spandex?" A lot of fans at the time admitted they had a point.

Jackman seems awkward in the suit, maybe it's catching him mid-motion but I think it's something in the construction of the shoulders and collar. It also looks bulkier than Deadpool's outfit, that one seems to let the actor walk normally at least.

Bringing Jackman back is blatant 'member-berries in a franchise that shouldn't need a nostalgia shot, and makes me suspect they want DP+X-men to revitalize the MCU for them. But the MCU didn't need the X-men to get big, and the X-men aren't going to help them climb out of the post-Endgame hole.

Deadpool (and his small co-cast of mutants) was already separated out from the big MCU storylines, for good reason. And it's a tall ask for him to carry all the nu-MCU race/gender swapped characters the franchises are currently burdened with. (Including that terrible version of Domino from DP2, fuck whoever approved that.)
 
That has to be for comedy's sake because it looks absolutely awful. They should have just had him wear street clothes like in Logan.
 
Sniperwoof said:
That has to be for comedy's sake because it looks absolutely awful. They should have just had him wear street clothes like in Logan.
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If this was pre-Disney FOX DP3 it probably would have been a screenshot of DP promo comedy clip. And like you said he'll be probably wearing street clothes and the Singer movie black costume and/or Wolverine other old comic costume the brown one. That alone it worth a mini movie slash promo of them just arguing over which costume or street clothes to wear.

But since this is Disney DP3 they will make Jackson suffer for the whole movie in that ill-fitting blue and yellow costume.
 
Uranus Pink said:
But since this is Disney DP3 they will make Jackson suffer for the whole movie in that ill-fitting blue and yellow costume.
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My guess is since it is Disney they probably shot it in streetclothes, decided they didn't like that, re-shot it in a shifty, rushed black costume, then changed their mind again and CGId the yellow on there for extra cost and awkwardness.
 
The Nothingness said:
While Wolverine is in the yellow and blue uniform for the consoomers, maybe there is a reason why not everything from the comics translates well into live action.
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I feel like the lack of mask is what is making the suit look off.

Harvey Danger said:
Bringing Jackman back is blatant 'member-berries in a franchise that shouldn't need a nostalgia shot, and makes me suspect they want DP+X-men to revitalize the MCU for them. But the MCU didn't need the X-men to get big, and the X-men aren't going to help them climb out of the post-Endgame hole.
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Are the X-Men even a huge draw at this point? They have been dead for about a decade for everything but movies, and the movies were on a downward spiral since 2 with a few exceptions. Plus they already tried to sell Doctor Strange 2 on them and failed. Really, besides Deadpool and Wolverine, does anyone still care?

Articles and Nudes said:
I love Ryan Reynolds, but the Deadpool movies really irk me and I don't know why.
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The second one was pretty bad in hindsight. The added overexposure of Reynolds and his style with movies such as Free Guy and Detective Pikachu just runs his material into the ground. He plays the same character in every movie now, just some overly snarky a-hole you are supposed to like because he has a heart of gold. It doesn't help that he has been relying more-and-more on Reddit/Twitter humor, just making liberal jokes and showing he is a good ally.
 
Basic Blond Boy said:
I feel like the lack of mask is what is making the suit look off.


Are the X-Men even a huge draw at this point? They have been dead for about a decade for everything but movies, and the movies were on a downward spiral since 2 with a few exceptions. Plus they already tried to sell Doctor Strange 2 on them and failed. Really, besides Deadpool and Wolverine, does anyone still care?


The second one was pretty bad in hindsight. The added overexposure of Reynolds and his style with movies such as Free Guy and Detective Pikachu just runs his material into the ground. He plays the same character in every movie now, just some overly snarky a-hole you are supposed to like because he has a heart of gold. It doesn't help that he has been relying more-and-more on Reddit/Twitter humor, just making liberal jokes and showing he is a good ally.
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Even the movies don't have that much excitement anymore. Last time I was excited for X-MEN was for Days of Future Past, & that's mainly cause it was part of First Class. I'd say Logan too, but that's more of a standalone story in my book.
 
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