Marvel Cinematic Universe

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Thinking about how much changed in a decade and how I can't even be bothered to watch a marvel movie unless it's widely consider a 10/10 best movie ever. I loved MCU and I didn't start getting underwhelmed until the 2nd Avengers. Iron Man was just such a well made movie with so much heart, I should still enjoy most of these movies what happened. Then I realized it's because everything went far too fantasy.

Iron Man is of course absurd science fiction, but when you watch it you don't start realizing how Tony's suit is absurd. It's because it's very grounded Sci-Fiction. It progressively got worse as it went as absurd as the comics.
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This image when Tony rises his arms during a missile launch became was one of the earliest widespread images online. I wouldn't call it a "meme" because it didn't really evolve beyond a few photoshops. People just shared that because Robert Downey Jr. looked that damn cool.

That's the Marvel I miss. capeshit that only was a little more wild than most Blockbuster films. Now that Disney slashing budgets this is what Marvel needs to go back to. Make the setting only as over the top as it needs to be.
 
Homer J. Fong said:
Thinking about how much changed in a decade and how I can't even be bothered to watch a marvel movie unless it's widely consider a 10/10 best movie ever. I loved MCU and I didn't start getting underwhelmed until the 2nd Avengers. Iron Man was just such a well made movie with so much heart, I should still enjoy most of these movies what happened. Then I realized it's because everything went far too fantasy.

Iron Man is of course absurd science fiction, but when you watch it you don't start realizing how Tony's suit is absurd. It's because it's very grounded Sci-Fiction. It progressively got worse as it went as absurd as the comics.
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This image when Tony rises his arms during a missile launch became was one of the earliest widespread images online. I wouldn't call it a "meme" because it didn't really evolve beyond a few photoshops. People just shared that because Robert Downey Jr. looked that damn cool.

That's the Marvel I miss. capeshit that only was a little more wild than most Blockbuster films. Now that Disney slashing budgets this is what Marvel needs to go back to. Make the setting only as over the top as it needs to be.
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I don't think it's because it went too fantasy, but rather it looks so fake with not even the actors looking like they fit within the cgi environments.

Iron Man 1 on a tec level is so much a head of the rest of the MCU. It got everything right, shooting on locations, lighting and even having a prop Iron Man suit on set in order to help the CGI team know how the CGI should look in terms of lighting. Now everything is green screen with no pre-planing to get the best final results leading to fake looking movies.
 
Product Placement said:
I don't think it's because it went too fantasy, but rather it looks so fake with not even the actors looking like they fit within the cgi environments.

Iron Man 1 on a tec level is so much a head of the rest of the MCU. It got everything right, shooting on locations, lighting and even having a prop Iron Man suit on set in order to help the CGI team know how the CGI should look in terms of lighting. Now everything is green screen with no pre-planing to get the best final results leading to fake looking movies.
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Maybe you're right. But you couldn't get me out of a film's fantasy harder than a damn magical Space Coffin.

Just 10 years ago they would have had Black Panther buried. Why not do the most sensible thing?
 
Homer J. Fong said:
Maybe you're right. But you couldn't get me out of a film's fantasy harder than a damn magical Space Coffin.
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Just 10 years ago they would have had Black Panther buried. Why not do the most sensible thing?
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Mean that looks goofy as hell and not at all real, which is sadly all to common in Marvel movies. Mean more realistic scenes such as actors standing on a water fall looks fake as hell in marvel movies, all this does is further the disconnect and take you out of the movie

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Airbrushed Van Art said:
So I quite literally haven’t watched another MCU movie (or show) since Endgame. I had told myself back then that it was a fine conclusion to an epic and that I was done with super hero films.

I did watch the Snyder cut of Justice League and quite enjoyed it. However, am I actually missing anything of worth from the MCU?
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Not really, at this point you just pick and choose what you'd want to watch. Like any normal movie really.
 
Homer J. Fong said:
Thinking about how much changed in a decade and how I can't even be bothered to watch a marvel movie unless it's widely consider a 10/10 best movie ever. I loved MCU and I didn't start getting underwhelmed until the 2nd Avengers. Iron Man was just such a well made movie with so much heart, I should still enjoy most of these movies what happened. Then I realized it's because everything went far too fantasy.

Iron Man is of course absurd science fiction, but when you watch it you don't start realizing how Tony's suit is absurd. It's because it's very grounded Sci-Fiction. It progressively got worse as it went as absurd as the comics.
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This image when Tony rises his arms during a missile launch became was one of the earliest widespread images online. I wouldn't call it a "meme" because it didn't really evolve beyond a few photoshops. People just shared that because Robert Downey Jr. looked that damn cool.

That's the Marvel I miss. capeshit that only was a little more wild than most Blockbuster films. Now that Disney slashing budgets this is what Marvel needs to go back to. Make the setting only as over the top as it needs to be.
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That was from a time when Tony Stark was seen as someone men wanted to be before Stark created his first Iron Man suit. Not as another self-loathing thin-skinned emo soyboy multi-billionaire Bruce Wayne clone who spends all of his time crying because he too fucking rich that modern audiences want for almost the past fifteen years.
 
Xenomorphs Are Cute said:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=JqcncLPi9zwIt's weird but I'm semi-hopeful about this.
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A capeshit movie with vibrant colors. Say what you want about James Gunn I'm not going full moviebob and declaring him a genius but I genuinely do think he enjoys making these silly movies. As a result they're just fun dumb entertainment. I'm curious to see if Disney will let him kill off some of the characters since he's made his intentions clear that he wants some if not all of the Guardian actors to move with him to the DC Rebooted Universe.
Uranus Pink said:
That was from a time when Tony Stark was seen as someone men wanted to be before Stark created his first Iron Man suit. Not as another self-loathing thin-skinned emo soyboy multi-billionaire Bruce Wayne clone who spends all of his time crying because he too fucking rich that modern audiences want for almost the past fifteen years.
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I remember in the bonus features for Iron Man (remember how DVDs had great extras?) they briefly interviewed Stan Lee. Stan more or less said the pitch of Tony Stark was "I'm going to make a character the readers will be inclined to hate but you're going to love him at the end!"

And what a ballsy pitch it really was to make a Superhero who made his fortune off Weapons Manufacturing in the face of the Hippy Anti-War movement. Tony Stark is has overlap with Batman but put in far more contemporary times. Everything just lined up perfectly for Iron Man to capture the fascination of the world.

With the vacuum of Downey Jr and Chris Evans leaving it feels that Marvel is just throwing everything and seeing what sticks. And I'm sorry I have no damn interest in what they've given so far. They have decades of stories they can draw inspiration from and yet nothing so far can compare to that first Iron Man movie.
 
Homer J. Fong said:
Thinking about how much changed in a decade and how I can't even be bothered to watch a marvel movie unless it's widely consider a 10/10 best movie ever. I loved MCU and I didn't start getting underwhelmed until the 2nd Avengers. Iron Man was just such a well made movie with so much heart, I should still enjoy most of these movies what happened. Then I realized it's because everything went far too fantasy.

Iron Man is of course absurd science fiction, but when you watch it you don't start realizing how Tony's suit is absurd. It's because it's very grounded Sci-Fiction. It progressively got worse as it went as absurd as the comics.
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This image when Tony rises his arms during a missile launch became was one of the earliest widespread images online. I wouldn't call it a "meme" because it didn't really evolve beyond a few photoshops. People just shared that because Robert Downey Jr. looked that damn cool.

That's the Marvel I miss. capeshit that only was a little more wild than most Blockbuster films. Now that Disney slashing budgets this is what Marvel needs to go back to. Make the setting only as over the top as it needs to be.
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Iron Man succeeds because it is exclusively self-contained. There's none of that extended universe bullshit that permeates all the other MCU films which leads to a jarring tone. To be honest, I kind of resent that Iron Man even has to be part of that crap because it's a genuinely great film that could've spawned a great trilogy or series of Iron Man films. Whenever I watch it, I try to pretend that it's just a one-off and everything else didn't happen.

It's also one of the reasons I hate that DC is trying so fucking hard to get a shared universe going and have zero hope for Gunn's garbage to be any good.
 
Xenomorphs Are Cute said:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=JqcncLPi9zwIt's weird but I'm semi-hopeful about this.
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It sounds like a way better plotline for a second film rather than an obvious last one to cap the series in. I hope at least the scale is smaller rather than constant big galaxy ending threats.
I don't like the new Groot redesigns and it's sad that we never got the epic storylines by Dan Abnett.
 
Airbrushed Van Art said:
So I quite literally haven’t watched another MCU movie (or show) since Endgame. I had told myself back then that it was a fine conclusion to an epic and that I was done with super hero films.

I did watch the Snyder cut of Justice League and quite enjoyed it. However, am I actually missing anything of worth from the MCU?
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The spider man movie was fine and could be viewed as a mini "endgame" for all the spiderman movies.
 
ArthuriusMartyrius said:
It's also one of the reasons I hate that DC is trying so fucking hard to get a shared universe going and have zero hope for Gunn's garbage to be any good.
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To be fair, DC (and even stuff like the Dark Universe) started with the intention of creating a universe, whereby something like Iron Man was created because they didn't actually have a movie for their major character. When that success hit, then they made more films akin to a cinematic universe after The Avengers.

DC and Dark decided to shove so much undeveloped stuff in their films for muh cinematic universe that they pretty much lost the audience.
 
Mr. Zed da Robot Poon Fed said:
To be fair, DC (and even stuff like the Dark Universe) started with the intention of creating a universe, whereby something like Iron Man was created because they didn't actually have a movie for their major character. When that success hit, then they made more films akin to a cinematic universe after The Avengers.

DC and Dark decided to shove so much undeveloped stuff in their films for muh cinematic universe that they pretty much lost the audience.
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Yeah like DC was thinking about the cinematic universe first than making good movies. Still can't get over that they made green lanturn because "PEOPLE LIKE IRON MAN JET SCENE"
 
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