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Yeah, I can see that happening. Plus it will probably be #1 at the box office longer than Black Adam.
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Something the Power Rangers fought back in Dino Thunder?

Oilspill Battery said:
Option 1:​

Moore was actually writing "blind" the entire time.

He was just randomly tossing shit at paper as it was coming to his head and it randomly kept working, and by the time it came out he barely understood what he had writen, so when people liked Rors he was shocked because he didn't realize he accidentally made Rors one of the greatest superheroes of the entire industry even by today's standard.

Basically the entirety of watchment literally happened by sheer cosmic accident (or thermodynamic miracle, as Manhattan might say.)


Option 2:​

Moore's moral compass is so unbelievably fucked that he genuinely believes mass decimation in the name of "our democracy" based on flimsy predictions is the morally admirable option. But this doesn't work because Moore is a fucking ANARCHIST.

You're telling me an ANARCHIST wrote a story where one character wants to secretly kill millions for "the greater good", and another character believes "people have a right to know", and he was actually intending for the "right to know" guy to be the bad one? I call bullshit, I'm not buying it, especially coming from anarchist, from a bugman? Maybe, but an anarchist? An 80s anarchist? Absolutely no.

The only other explenation is that moore is literally retarded and wrote watchmen by accident which takes us back to option one.
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I think the answer is "both." If you read the introduction he wrote for the V for Vendetta TPB, he notes that he writes by the seat of his pants because you kind of have to with periodicals- the first part is in print while you're writing the conclusion, so you can't do edits, you have to work with what you've got. He also admitted that the Nazis in that story got away from him, developing personalities and motivations in spite I'd his intention of keeping them as cardboard cutout bad guys. Rorschach is an emergency creation of his formidable writing talent, but Moore is hung up on what he wanted to make as opposed to what he did make.

As to his moral compass, well, when he got the chance to write for his own entertainment, the thing he wrote was a porn anthology starring girls from various public domain children's stories. So yes the up-his-own-ass auteur who worships a Roman snake god does in fact have a wildly abnormal perspective.
 
The Nothingness said:
Yeah, I can see that happening. Plus it will probably be #1 at the box office longer than Black Adam.
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It's not a prediction, it's a certainty. The real question is whether the death will be due to:
1. Disease like the actor, which will at least be somewhat respectable.
2. Saving the world, in a very bad taste as if dying from disease is not how a hero should go.
3. Racism, the least respectable way but we can't waste a nigger death not to insert politics.

That said, my prediction is that Black Panther died by being exposed to radiation during the final battle of end game and being denied treatment in the USA (the only place that is able to treat it for some reason) due to being black.
 
wtfNeedSignUp said:
It's not a prediction, it's a certainty. The real question is whether the death will be due to:
1. Disease like the actor, which will at least be somewhat respectable.
2. Saving the world, in a very bad taste as if dying from disease is not how a hero should go.
3. Racism, the least respectable way but we can't waste a nigger death not to insert politics.

That said, my prediction is that Black Panther died by being exposed to radiation during the final battle of end game and being denied treatment in the USA (the only place that is able to treat it for some reason) due to being black.
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One issue with the 2nd point, & to an extent the 1st point, (& I know how sociopathic I'm gonna sound) is the fact that the disease Chadwick Boseman died from is, at it's core is.... ass cancer. It's sad for a normal guy, but for a superhero? It doesn't really sound like the most heroic way to go.

For a King with a vast & supreme empire, who's considered to be pretty much the richest being on the planet, who returned from the realm in the literal middle of life & death (Soul Stone doesn't really kill you, just stores your existence in itself) & saved the universe against an extremely strong threat, that doesn't sound as dignified a death as he deserves. Hell, the anal part almost turns a tragedy of a man into dark comedy for the character, because as I said, Ass Cancer.

Imagine an upgraded version of the Ace Ventura hemorrhoids scene being his death:

They kinda do have to make his death more dignified, as in a death from just saving Wakanda in a war & dying a martyr, if not the world. Even if it is cancer he died from, than it has to be just usual lung or stomach cancer.

I know I sound like an asshole, but colon cancer doesn't sound like a dignified death. It's like Tony Stark dying from AIDS, or a liver/kidney failure, out of nowhere just because his ex-playboy lifestyle or drinking catching up with him, instead of sacrificing himself against Thanos.
 
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wtfNeedSignUp said:
It's not a prediction, it's a certainty. The real question is whether the death will be due to:
1. Disease like the actor, which will at least be somewhat respectable.
2. Saving the world, in a very bad taste as if dying from disease is not how a hero should go.
3. Racism, the least respectable way but we can't waste a nigger death not to insert politics.

That said, my prediction is that Black Panther died by being exposed to radiation during the final battle of end game and being denied treatment in the USA (the only place that is able to treat it for some reason) due to being black.
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According to Chris Gore, he died of some virus, which actually is insulting to T'Challa. He really should have died in battle or died because of Namor.

Boseman's death really fucked up how this film would have gone, I think. He really should have said something regarding his colon cancer to someone. All it did was cause future moral disasters and inconsistencies for the writers and producers.
 
Mr. Zed da Robot Poon Fed said:
According to Chris Gore, he died of some virus, which actually is insulting to T'Challa. He really should have died in battle or died because of Namor.

Boseman's death really fucked up how this film would have gone, I think. He really should have said something regarding his colon cancer to someone. All it did was cause future moral disasters and inconsistencies for the writers and producers.
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Shit imagine in the MCU you die from the snap than come back to fight Thanos and his forces. Only to die permanently by a virus.

I know Boseman died from cancer in real life. But they could have had T'Challa die differently for the story
 
Mr. Zed da Robot Poon Fed said:
According to Chris Gore, he died of some virus, which actually is insulting to T'Challa. He really should have died in battle or died because of Namor.

Boseman's death really fucked up how this film would have gone, I think. He really should have said something regarding his colon cancer to someone. All it did was cause future moral disasters and inconsistencies for the writers and producers.
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It probably won't be a virus from China :smug:
 
Oats12345 said:
Shit imagine in the MCU you die from the snap than come back to fight Thanos and his forces. Only to die permanently by a virus.

I know Boseman died from cancer in real life. But they could have had T'Challa die differently for the story
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He really should have been killed off screen doing something super heroic or something, unless a plot point is some kind of lab created virus used as an assassination tool or something.

Shit like this doesn't work in the fantastical world the Marvel Universe is. You cannot have notable people die of (relatively) mundane causes because it just causes all sorts of questions to pop up. It's like how in One More Day in the comics, Aunt May got shot and clung to life long enough for Mr. Fantastic, Iron Man and Dr. Strange to be like "Sorry, we can't save her." Except now it's a literal hero and national leader of the most advanced country on Earth.
 
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Passacaille said:
Could they not just replace the actor? That's what happened to the actor playing the military person who would later steal an Iron Man suit. All Black Panthers look the same in their costume.
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You can't do that when you astroturf the film and actor into being cornerstones of Black culture, unfortunately.

At least that's what people tell me *shrug*
 
Mr. Zed da Robot Poon Fed said:
He really should have said something regarding his colon cancer to someone. All it did was cause future moral disasters and inconsistencies for the writers and producers.
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Nah fuck Marvel and its infinite media retreads. Being sick with a terminal disease shouldn't stop you from acting in a dumb action film for kids.
 
Passacaille said:
Could they not just replace the actor? That's what happened to the actor playing the military person who would later steal an Iron Man suit. All Black Panthers look the same in their costume.
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Admittedly, War Machine and the Hulk's actors were replaced before the concept of an MCU was taken seriously and people started signing contracts for multiple-picture deals. Of course, Black Panther's would be different since Boseman already appeared in four films.

At the same time, though Harrison Ford is replacing William Hurt in playing Thunderbolt after Hurt passed away. If they could do that here, along with casting Mahersha Ali or Aaron Taylor-Johnson in multiple Marvel roles, there's really no reason why they couldn't replace the actor.
 
xXx: State of the Union said:
He really should have been killed off screen doing something super heroic or something, unless a plot point is some kind of lab created virus used as an assassination tool or something.

Shit like this doesn't work in the fantastical world the Marvel Universe is. You cannot have notable people die of (relatively) mundane causes because it just causes all sorts of questions to pop up. It's like how in One More Day in the comics, Aunt May got shot and clung to life long enough for Mr. Fantastic, Iron Man and Dr. Strange to be like "Sorry, we can't save her." Except now it's a literal hero and national leader of the most advanced country on Earth.
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Having characters be written out in arbitrary ways that make no sense narratively is pretty much a staple of long-running live-action series. It’s really not that big a deal.

Mr. Zed da Robot Poon Fed said:
Admittedly, War Machine and the Hulk's actors were replaced before the concept of an MCU was taken seriously and people started signing contracts for multiple-picture deals. Of course, Black Panther's would be different since Boseman already appeared in four films.

At the same time, though Harrison Ford is replacing William Hurt in playing Thunderbolt after Hurt passed away. If they could do that here, along with casting Mahersha Ali or Aaron Taylor-Johnson in multiple Marvel roles, there's really no reason why they couldn't replace the actor.
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Replacing a headlining hero is a bit different from replacing a minor antagonist. Though I do agree they should’ve just recast him, these two situations aren’t really comparable.
 
Passacaille said:
Could they not just replace the actor? That's what happened to the actor playing the military person who would later steal an Iron Man suit. All Black Panthers look the same in their costume.
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That would be extremely disrespectful to Disney's shareholders. This approach is bound to be far more profitable. If anything, Disney might consider arranging some tragic accidents for some of their other highly-paid stars..
 
Calandrino said:
That would be extremely disrespectful to Disney's shareholders. This approach is bound to be far more profitable. If anything, Disney might consider arranging some tragic accidents for some of their other highly-paid stars..
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I posted this ages back in the "Conspiracy Theories You Believe In" but I think that originally Carrie Fisher wasn't going to be in the third Star Wars post-trilogy (Ep. IX). Maybe had been in some of the drafts but was probably not going to actually be in the movie. And then when she died they re-arranged things so that she "would have been" to get the large insurance payout for death of a main cast member.

Cynical but very plausible.
 
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