The only time we see her really feel things are out of her control in the early movies is that scene with Banner in the shack where he really spooks her. You can't manipulate or play mind games with Hulk. He's just primal anger. He's the one person she's actually defenceless against.
There's an episode of the Avengers Assemble cartoon that explores how Natasha (and by extension, the other Avengers) sees the Hulk.
Iron Man, Captain America, Thor, Hawkeye, and Falcon are infected with a gamma virus that simulates the Hulk's transformation. Because they're not as used to the heightened emotions and strength as Hulk is, they quickly lose their minds and start fighting each other.
While the remaining two Avengers are alone looking for a device Bruce Banner created that's capable of curing the others, Natasha admits that for a whole, she's seen Hulk as nothing more than a cornered animal. It was only after seeing him trying to mediate the conflict with the other hulked out Avengers that has to hold back a lot to ensure his friends don't get hurt.
I'm sorry, I don't really know - I'm apparently not as well-up on comics as I thought since I got two replies to my comment one saying I was wrong and one saying I was right.
No, that's on me. I wasn't sure if you meant early or later movies.
That's an interesting take and could have been a much deeper exploration. Sam and Bucky's concerns become more founded not because they think Walker was wrong so much as they see the very real movement growing that thinks this is a better Captain America. If you want to sell Walker's arc better, don't have the public react with horror, have them applaud. THAT is what would make the audience uneasy with it and the other heroes have less arbitrary reasons.
Seeing people cheer on Walker's brutality does a much better job at selling how unfit he is for the job than Captain Americantcallthemterrorists.
And Falcon and The Winter Soldier was just like "DO BETTER!" at handling the...most consequential pair of events in the history of the universe.
Remember how a throwaway line in She-Hulk revealed that the Sokovia Accords, a big part of why Thanos won, were repealed off-screen? Maybe that's how the senators did better.
Iron man wasn't the focus of IW, was he? It was Nebula who undid it all.
Don't forget how Adam Warlock, another key player in the Infinity War comics, wasn't properly introduced until after Endgame.
The snap and it's affects could have launched so much. Where do the souls of those snapped go? Did they bring something back with them when they unsnapped? Use that to bring in Ghost Rider, and just have him fight demons.
I think Agents of SHIELD already used Ghost Rider in one season.
One of the weirdest things in Endgame, is how most of the Avengers (save for Thor and Clint) actually seemed relatively stable post Infinity War.
It's one of the reasons why I didn't mind Thor in that movie. Yeah, the fat jokes were unnecessary, but you could tell how miserable Thor was for letting half of the universe die.
I feel like if the MCU were smarter, they would have some media showcasing what happened between Avengers Infinity War and Endgame.
We kinda got that, but they're all made after Endgame.
Strongly agree. I thought Civil War was okay, but they really nerfed Iron Man to have Cap beat him. When the trailer came out that showed him getting tag-teamed, I expected them to peel open an unmanned decoy before Tony actually shows up. He has the intelligence to outplay Steve, but they never let him utilise it.
In general, Tony barely used his technopathy as much as he could have. The most he did with it was use it to communicate with Spider-Man during Homecoming.
