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AnotherPleb said:
Because Wizards of the Coast has completely ceded that they are completely and utterly incapable of creating their own lore without it being absolute horseshit.
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I do not give a shit about magic lore, but the art and the themes of the cards were at some time really on point and that is all there needs to be.

I do not care about the overarching story, give me world that gets represented by a set and that's enough.

Look at Mirrodin block (oh yeah, bring blocks back), the art was nice, the flavourtext had the right level of exposition and the sets worked with each other.
 
Honka Honka Burning Love said:
They legitimately can't even write a basic romance without absolutely fucking it up and then expecting us to give a rats ass when they presumably die.
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Because the romances nowadays are pretty much written by Tumblr.

And I mean that literally. They will do some story writing, then see how broader tumblr reacts to it, then do the next parts of the story based upon that. Originally Jace & Liliana were the hot item. Then it was hinted at in Ravnica 2 that Jace and... Lavinia I think? Or was it Emmara - anyway he was supposed to be in love with one of the maze runners in that one. Then Ixalan happened and Tumblr blew up with shippers obsessed over Pirate Jace/Vraska.

Never forget Gideon was originally introduced in Chandra's first novel purely to be her love interest in that. And we all know how it turned out.
 
Honka Honka Burning Love said:
Shit like that doesn't matter when you can't even tell a basic story without fucking it up.
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It feels like they toss the story over to a new writer with every set or block, with no long term plan. It's like a 2 decade long game of telephone.

I rarely follow the novels or story outside of the card flavor text, so I don't know how their writer lineup actually works. It just seems completely disjointed every time I do read a story on the site, or see a lore video, or skim through all the cards in a set.
 
Jacknife said:
Look at Mirrodin block (oh yeah, bring blocks back), the art was nice, the flavourtext had the right level of exposition and the sets worked with each other.
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To be fair, There are large parts of the last book in the Mirrodin block was pretty bad, especially the ending.


Edit : Raise your hand if you are ready for Ixalan spoilers!
*looks around*
What nobody except content creators?


Edit: We found out what Map tokens do.

1: Sacrifice, target creature explores activate only as a sorcery.

Honestly that is not a bad mana sink junk token.
 
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They just don't give a fuck anymore do they? How do you make the same mistake twice in the opposite directions?

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Edit: For the uninitiated, in magic there are zones for when cards go from being cast to the battlefield. Normally a card is cast and turns into a spell on the stack. The stack is a zone. Then when a creature spell on the stack resolves it enters the battlefield as a permanent. The battlefield is a zone. When a card is a spell it is on the stack, when a card is a permanent it's on the battlefield. In the game of magic, there has never been a card that transforms a permanent into a spell. There's no precedent for it. Nothing in the rules on how to do it or what happens when a permanent is changed into a spell. Does it change zones to the stack? If so can it be countered or does it trigger "when x enters the battlefield" type of effects when it resolves?
The worst part is that they made a similar mistake last year with a little card called Serra Paragon. It worked by targeting spells assigning them static abilities, instead of correctly targeting the permanents entering the battlefield and assigning them those abilities.
 
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I am getting so tired of copies.

It's what I keep ranting about to some of my playgroup. It's one kind of flavor to say "ok this card is now a 1/1" or "is a food token" to then also tack on, "AND it has all the game text of the card too." Which like... wouldn't be a problem if we ALSO weren't in the era of novels on every card. Which means you've got to either copy the entire book onto an infi-token if you want to try and remember what it does some turns later, OR figure out some kind overlay you can put on the original card to try and remember the new stats it now has and--

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MOTHER %(*^@#)$*&!
 
Mom can we have a Bloodbraid Elf?
We have Bloodbraid Elf at home
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Well, that dumb Invasion of Alara deck is coming back, I guess. At least it's possible to counter this cascade cleanly
 
Oddjob OTP said:
Mom can we have a Bloodbraid Elf?
We have Bloodbraid Elf at home
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Well, that dumb Invasion of Alara deck is coming back, I guess. At least it's possible to counter this cascade cleanly
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Lack of Haste is a big deal, however....The Lands that Discover 4 are probably gonna do something stupid somewhere.
 
I think the neat/fucking stupid thing is that the exact wording is more like Invasion of Alara than actual cascade, so you can make a shitty 8 cascade Alara/Appaiser deck in Pioneer/Explorer that cascades into Tibalt/Bramble Familiar as long as your opponent lets you live long enough (they won't).
 
Oddjob OTP said:
Mom can we have a Bloodbraid Elf?
We have Bloodbraid Elf at home
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Well, that dumb Invasion of Alara deck is coming back, I guess. At least it's possible to counter this cascade cleanly
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I was about to say, is this just cascade with extra wording but I see the "or put it into hand" option there and yeah, I guess you could have things discover higher or lower values.

Man I keep getting more tempted to make a war doctor deck...

So magic has been trying to do "flashback creatures" for awhile. Amonkhet had the embalm/enternalize. There's been "this creature gains 'exile if it leaves battlefield'" effects.... now Ixalan is introducing finality counters to try and accomplish this.

What's your opinion on the new mechanical solution?
 
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Flexo said:
So magic has been trying to do "flashback creatures" for awhile. Amonkhet had the embalm/enternalize. There's been "this creature gains 'exile if it leaves battlefield'" effects.... now Ixalan is introducing finality counters to try and accomplish this.

What's your opinion on the new mechanical solution?
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I hope it's there final solution.
 
Flexo said:
I was about to say, is this just cascade with extra wording but I see the "or put it into hand" option there and yeah, I guess you could have things discover higher or lower values.

Man I keep getting more tempted to make a war doctor deck...
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There's that and it's "On ETB" instead of "When this is put the stack", you counterspell a bloodbraid elf it still gets it's cascade.
 
Oddjob OTP said:
There's that and it's "On ETB" instead of "When this is put the stack", you counterspell a bloodbraid elf it still gets it's cascade.
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On the other hand, you flicker a bloodbraid elf - you don't get another cascade out of it.
 
Oddjob OTP said:
There's that and it's "On ETB" instead of "When this is put the stack", you counterspell a bloodbraid elf it still gets it's cascade.
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Oh excellent point. So Elesh Norn can suppress this but not bloodbraid elf. (does ETB doublers affect it?)
 
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