💰 Grifter "Mad at the Internet" - a/k/a My Psychotherapy Sessions

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The Lawgiver said:
Cool gaming fact or whatever: Sonic is infamously 14, 15, or 16 depending on the game even if the games take place years apart from each other as direct sequels with no rhyme or reason chronologically, with rare exceptions like the 20th anniversary bumping his age up to 20 before going back to the prior random ages.

Oh, so you haven't read sonichu?
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...and his gal pal, and underage characters, and his principal.
 
The Lawgiver said:
Stop making shit up, this is literally the only time I've questioned why the fuck pedos used the stress mark emoji, and it's cause another guy brought it up because of a segment of the stream I missed where it was onscreen for a bit.
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It's directly related to the thing we were talking about 3 months ago, which is further evidence that you didn't know what you were talking about then, and still don't now. Again, if you were so confused about something you insist on being so obstinate about for so long, then you could have just looked it up.
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Reddit post from 4 (four) years ago

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>wtf I never heard of the crying emoji being used by pedos? it's from this old game and idol culture
>>well now it's like a pedo thing
>no it existed before that
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>wtf I never heard of the anger emoji being used by pedos? it's from media where someone gets angry and pops a vein
>>well now it's like a pedo thing
>no it existed before that
>>...

Why are you like this? And at what point is it acceptable to call you willfully ignorant?
 
Back with more thoughts. The reason why so many Sam Hyde fans were convinced that Sam was just doing a bit the whole time is that, just like Harland was attempting to be funny the whole time by humiliating Sam, Sam was attempting to be funny the whole time by humiliating Harland. Harland had an overall better performance, but the only part of the podcast that could be described as comedic was the gorilla nest chimp out, which was itself Sam trying to reverse the joke on Harland, "I'm a big dumb nigger, huh? Let's see how you handle this gorilla." After this, Sam does a complete reversal because he realized that he fucked up, so he tries to grovel to Harland to win him over and convince him he was just trying to have a back and forth, which actually convinced the Sam Hyde fanbase, but Harland couldn't be fooled because this was what he wanted the whole time. Now, Harland is apparently very bad at improv, so he couldn't think of any way to make it funny and resorted to editing in jokes and saying after the fact, "It turns out I'm busy for the rest of my life". I saw someone in the Sam Hyde thread get mad at Sam for saying "so you finally bring it up" when Harland lets him think it's time to shill, but Sam was trying to play it off as if they were just being playful the whole podcast, and he thought Harland was going to play along (it should be mentioned that censoring Sam Hyde in post helped to reinforce this in the eyes of a Sam Hyde fan, it makes it seem like Extreme Peace is too hot to air, so it has to be censored).
Also, people have said that Sam's comedy is really mean-spirited and Harland was able to take advantage of this by being the bigger gorilla, but this isn't true, and I stand by my original analysis of why Harland was able to win. Sam Hyde has certainly done a lot of mean-spirited or biting comedy, that's probably what Fishtank is, although I've never cared to watch it, and some of his more popular bits like "Jews Rock" and the American Sisyphus sketches or the Ted talk, but his best work like the "First Date" sketch or his "Natty Monster" sketch, or the Idubbbz documentary, are ones where he plays the fool, so like I said, Sam building a gorilla nest would not be out of place at all in his own work. I will say, Sam didn't really have any other options than to either ingratiate himself to a more normie audience and giving a performance that makes him look bad to his core audience, or do some avant-garde exaggerated grovelling to make him look bad to a normie audience, but good to his core audience, or to humiliate himself like what actually happened. There was no way for Sam Hyde to get what he wanted and he should have avoided trying. Also, Sam's comedy is generally reliant on the physical aspect, and that doesn't translate well to a podcast format.
 
volatile puar said:
<autistic edaddy speging snipped for brevity>
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Sam made himself look like an autistic mongoloid... The only thing missing was a REEEEEEEEEEEEE.

And by a fucking leaf.

just learn to accept it and move on with your life. The "Savior of the White Race" chimps out like a nigger when shit doesn't go the way he wants it. Turnabout is fair play, and that's exactly what he got.
 
volatile puar said:
Back with more thoughts. The reason why so many Sam Hyde fans were convinced that Sam was just doing a bit the whole time is that, just like Harland was attempting to be funny the whole time by humiliating Sam, Sam was attempting to be funny the whole time by humiliating Harland. Harland had an overall better performance, but the only part of the podcast that could be described as comedic was the gorilla nest chimp out, which was itself Sam trying to reverse the joke on Harland, "I'm a big dumb nigger, huh? Let's see how you handle this gorilla." After this, Sam does a complete reversal because he realized that he fucked up, so he tries to grovel to Harland to win him over and convince him he was just trying to have a back and forth, which actually convinced the Sam Hyde fanbase, but Harland couldn't be fooled because this was what he wanted the whole time. Now, Harland is apparently very bad at improv, so he couldn't think of any way to make it funny and resorted to editing in jokes and saying after the fact, "It turns out I'm busy for the rest of my life". I saw someone in the Sam Hyde thread get mad at Sam for saying "so you finally bring it up" when Harland lets him think it's time to shill, but Sam was trying to play it off as if they were just being playful the whole podcast, and he thought Harland was going to play along (it should be mentioned that censoring Sam Hyde in post helped to reinforce this in the eyes of a Sam Hyde fan, it makes it seem like Extreme Peace is too hot to air, so it has to be censored).
Also, people have said that Sam's comedy is really mean-spirited and Harland was able to take advantage of this by being the bigger gorilla, but this isn't true, and I stand by my original analysis of why Harland was able to win. Sam Hyde has certainly done a lot of mean-spirited or biting comedy, that's probably what Fishtank is, although I've never cared to watch it, and some of his more popular bits like "Jews Rock" and the American Sisyphus sketches or the Ted talk, but his best work like the "First Date" sketch or his "Natty Monster" sketch, or the Idubbbz documentary, are ones where he plays the fool, so like I said, Sam building a gorilla nest would not be out of place at all in his own work. I will say, Sam didn't really have any other options than to either ingratiate himself to a more normie audience and giving a performance that makes him look bad to his core audience, or do some avant-garde exaggerated grovelling to make him look bad to a normie audience, but good to his core audience, or to humiliate himself like what actually happened. There was no way for Sam Hyde to get what he wanted and he should have avoided trying. Also, Sam's comedy is generally reliant on the physical aspect, and that doesn't translate well to a podcast format.
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I think even if that podcast thing was two guys making irony jokes with sam being angry to a degree the end result was still fucking hilarious and that's what matters.
I saw an isolated version of the gorilla nest bit on youtube, I'd genuinely watch/listen to more podcasts if they devolved into two grown men grappling and doing funny gorilla voices more often.
 
Wodanaz said:
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I think it is a very harsh interpretation, the angry emoji thing was not a question of "why people use it", but "why was it [suddenly] referenced in the MATI thread".
This is why when people tried to explain it to Lawgiver, his response was "why are you explaining the meaning to me [that was not my question]". I tried to answer that question directly from source: the recent MATI stream.
I thought it was a reference to a superchat, but I think the author of the post said otherwise. Did Null not know that connection and omitted it or just assumed it's automatically known and clear 🤔
 
Croak & Caw said:
Lawgiver, his response was "why are you explaining the meaning to me [that was not my question]".
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No, I gave him "the Wikipedia explanation", and he didn't understand why I explained to him what a pinched vein means outside of a pedophile context. The rest of it was him being upset about pedophiles using dogwhistles and failing to understand that people on the Internet are very quick to assume bad motives on the other side of the screen.
 
Wodanaz said:
Why are you like this? And at what point is it acceptable to call you willfully ignorant?
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I think he thinks pretending that he doesn't know aaaaaanything about this stuff and thought it was all just super innocent memes unrelated to lolicon shit makes him look less suspicious since he is clearly deeply engulfed in anime culture, but it actually does the opposite.
 
volatile puar said:
people on the Internet are very quick to assume bad motives on the other side of the screen.
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You say this like its an unreasonably bad thing, and not just a reasonable learned behavior. I lock my doors if I'm driving down MLK Jr Blvd, too. You are on Kiwi Farms. You should know the Internet isn't a high trust gated community.

And if you don't, I'd like to introduce you to my friend, who just happens to be a member of the Nigerian Royal Family, and he happens to have a bit of a business proposition for you...
 
:null:: I'm not watching Sam Hyde's show because I don't like cringe comedy
:null:: Full hour in the gorilla nest buckle up chat. Watch this, you can actually pinpoint the second Nick's career rips in half

Lol. I appreciate the depth of that segment though, I could not have sat through that unfiltered. Glad Damiel is getting the hate he deserves, he was insufferable on fishtank.

volatile puar said:
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Harland wasn't set on humiliating Sam the whole time, Sam just refused to engage with anything that wasn't an ego game. For example, Harland had his Cajun accent that Sam called a Jewish accent, which Harland rolled with and called Cajun Jew, abbreviated to CaJew. Considering the Japanese theming and previous goy/koi joke, he was softballing Sam a kaiju joke. Sam either didn't catch it or ignored it. Harland even set it up a second time to give Sam another crack at it! He was trying to engage him as a fellow comedian, but Sam couldn't even handle a friendly back-and-forth pun. The really mean-spirited stuff only came out after Sam kept escalating.
 
Wodanaz said:
Strong ideas persist, because they hold up to scrutiny, stand the test of time, are generally more advantageous for people, and in the process their influence grows as more people adopt them. If they weren't strong, then they would be replaced by other ideas, as long as someone is smart enough to think of them.
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Fairyland tbh.
Memes, even in the true Dawkinsian sense, are invented and consumed the most by pretty low INT people. This doesn’t make them “weak” but it does demonstrate the perils of, even accidentally, assigning value to them. Not even meatspace evolution, which is driven by real stakes, always produces what we’d consider improvements. The aim is efficiency and that’s why harsher environments often produce animals that simply exploit niches while less harsh ones give us awe-inspiring predators.

The “Misinformation” people are technically right that humans devolve into superstition without institutions vetting information and a system of credibility. They just use the argument to paper over the fact they provably lie and suppress the truth because of ideological capture And an open forum will make that hard to conceal so they don’t want one.
 
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Karen Horney said:
:null:: I'm not watching Sam Hyde's show because I don't like cringe comedy
:null:: Full hour in the gorilla nest buckle up chat. Watch this, you can actually pinpoint the second Nick's career rips in half

Lol. I appreciate the depth of that segment though, I could not have sat through that unfiltered. Glad Damiel is getting the hate he deserves, he was insufferable on fishtank.


Harland wasn't set on humiliating Sam the whole time, Sam just refused to engage with anything that wasn't an ego game. For example, Harland had his Cajun accent that Sam called a Jewish accent, which Harland rolled with and called Cajun Jew, abbreviated to CaJew. Considering the Japanese theming and previous goy/koi joke, he was softballing Sam a kaiju joke. Sam either didn't catch it or ignored it. Harland even set it up a second time to give Sam another crack at it! He was trying to engage him as a fellow comedian, but Sam couldn't even handle a friendly back-and-forth pun. The really mean-spirited stuff only came out after Sam kept escalating.
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The most mean-spirited parts were the most evidently prepared, and the most inconvenient to prepare. I'm sure he would have been willing to play along with Sam being more friendly, but that's clearly not what he wanted.
 
Berrakh said:
Memes, even in the true Dawkinsian sense, are invented and consumed the most by pretty low INT people. This doesn’t make them “weak” but it does demonstrate the perils of, even accidentally, assigning value to them.
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It does not matter what anyone personally thinks of them. Nature selects. Human nature is obviously much more complicated than "which predator is the strongest, most resilient, and fastest at adapting", but it is nature. There is a reason you think some things are funny and some things aren't.
 
Wodanaz said:
It does not matter what anyone personally thinks of them. Nature selects. Human nature is obviously much more complicated than "which predator is the strongest, most resilient, and fastest at adapting", but it is nature. There is a reason you think some things are funny and some things aren't.
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I kinda knew you’d say this but your language absolutely assigned subjective value when you say smart people come up with them and successful ideas hold up to scrutiny. That’s why I said it’s dangerous to even accidentally assign value.
 
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