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What wil Luigi's fate be?

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U.S. District Judge Margaret Garnett said in her decision that Mangione will still face two federal stalking charges, which each carry a maximum sentence of life in prison without parole. But she is dismissing murder and firearms charges “solely to foreclose the death penalty as an available punishment,” she wrote.
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Look, the feds bulled their way into this b/c Blondi was a former lobbyist for health insurance corps and they went and bitched to her about Luigi and how he'd killed one of their preciouses. She decided to make an example of him coming in to the new administration to show how tough they were on crime and make him a poster boy for her and the orange menace's bullshit anti crime/antifa agenda. The only thing they could pull together to demonstrate jurisdiction was the weak excuse of interstate stalking and they attached it to the crime of murder, of course. She insisted (not documented, but look I'm pretty sure) that they go for the DP to a hollowed out resentful southern district of New York prosecutorial staff who knew they'd never get the DP, even though most who are not local think it's a slam dunk. It's not, I think it's been over 50 yrs since a NY jury handed down the DP. At this point the only sensible thing was to let the state trial proceed as normal and not get all over it with the feds which just bollixes things up. Prosecutors admitted in court that the stalking charges are weak and will not stand alone.

But it's got Trump/Blondi's smeary peanut butter fingerprints all over it, this whole thing with the fed involvement. They are terminally stupid. It was never gonna fly. They should've left better off alone and let the state handle it as is appropriate.
 
Blue Knat said:
Look, the feds bulled their way into this b/c Blondi was a former lobbyist for health insurance corps and they went and bitched to her about Luigi and how he'd killed one of their preciouses. She decided to make an example of him coming in to the new administration to show how tough they were on crime and make him a poster boy for her and the orange menace's bullshit anti crime/antifa agenda. The only thing they could pull together to demonstrate jurisdiction was the weak excuse of interstate stalking and they attached it to the crime of murder, of course. She insisted (not documented, but look I'm pretty sure) that they go for the DP to a hollowed out resentful southern district of New York prosecutorial staff who knew they'd never get the DP, even though most who are not local think it's a slam dunk. It's not, I think it's been over 50 yrs since a NY jury handed down the DP. At this point the only sensible thing was to let the state trial proceed as normal and not get all over it with the feds which just bollixes things up. Prosecutors admitted in court that the stalking charges are weak and will not stand alone.

But it's got Trump/Blondi's smeary peanut butter fingerprints all over it, this whole thing with the fed involvement. They are terminally stupid. It was never gonna fly. They should've left better off alone and let the state handle it as is appropriate.
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Wasn't he charged while biden was president with a different general attorney?
 
lol one of Luigi's grifter daddies Patrick David Bet denounces him. The lashings start @4:50 timestamped for your pleasure


@4:50
"So two days ago I had a one-hour call with his 3 lawyers, Luigi's lawyers. Luigi wrote me a two-page long letter that was written in August that I received 2 days before Christmas or even a day before Christmas. And it was interesting because when he came out with the 27 points one of the things he wrote on the 27 points is when my phone blew up is that Luigi is reading Your Next Five Moves in prison and other inmates are reading your next five moves as well in jail. So this is kind of how the exchange is going. So I'm talking to the lawyer…you know what? I was asking the lawyers and who knows maybe we'll do something together to go even deeper because one of the lawyers that's there, she's also a content creator and she gets a lot of eyeballs. She's with Meidas Touch and she does a very good job. She's a talent and obviously to be a lawyer for someone like this you have to be very good at what you do. All I want to know is how does this happen? How do you go from a guy that has a trajectory of getting to where he could have gone in life, being a good citizen, make good money, create jobs, get married, have kids, do all the stuff that he wants to do, to all of a sudden get to this point. I want to know how this led to this…because if we don’t… how many other Luigi’s are there? that we have to know that if we don't see patterns we can't prevent, right?... "
 
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"Dude, we got to prevent this thing before it gets to the next level. 20 of us went to watch Joker when it came out. I'm a big Joaquin Phoenix guy and I want to watch the movie... 43 minutes into the movie, I look at Jen, I said, "There's no way I can watch this movie. This is horrible." That movie is inspiring you to go kill the billionaire! THAT'S THE MOVIE You don’t think five kids are going to watch it and say, "Fuck, you know let me go kill them F these guys" you don't think all you need is five kids to watch? You don't think these movies are going to have that kind of an impact? And how big of a movie was it? Of course, Joaquin Phoenix crushed it in
the movie. And so, you watch this and you say, "How does this happen?" I'm interested in what gets somebody to that point and what can we do to prevent that from happening at a large scale?"

@9:09
"Right before jumping on here we're talking… Chris and I are talking about your son, what decisions he's making, what he wants to do with his career, good-looking guy. You know, he's doing what he's doing and family…THERE'S NOTHING LIKE FAMILY, but there's also nothing like influencing someone else that's maybe not your family to prevent them to do something DUMB. I'm willing to bet the guy was close of just being a regular guy you would have met. You would have never thought about him. And I'm willing to bet there are tens of thousands of Luigi Manigone’s that are close to doing something stupid. And if we don't find a way to get a hold of these guys, we're going to have a bunch of these cases happening."
 
The Crescent King said:
I think if the lc threads were still around there would be more activity, especially around the time of the ex-girlfriend reveal.
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i know for a fact that the schizo luigi threads on lolcow would have a field day with the ex girlfriend reveal… those threads were desperate for new milk once the old news started to run dry. they would harp on everything and anything (myself included kek)

“Imagine if that commitment were directed toward actual healthcare advocacy. Imagine if those hours were spent organizing, lobbying, building power to change the systems that everyone claims to be so angry about.” i have a lot to say about this

i shit you not. these were my immediate thoughts upon hearing about luigi’s case and the attention surrounding him. i always thought him attractive and somewhat of an interesting spectacle, like everyone else, but the idealization and obsession over him (mainly by stupid, liberal women… let’s be honest) because of his ostensible valour made me incredibly angry from the get-go.

i was also initially skeptical because luigi’s general history and background did not align with his actions… he showed 0 prior interest in legitimate activism, the healthcare industry, wealth disparity in the US, etc. his social media presence across twitter, substack, and goodreads evinced the prototypical mind of a white, upper-class, tech bro.

there were even ridiculous rumors flying around about his family’s unfortunate experience with US healthcare; blind supporters stating that his mother and grandparents were “tortured” by UHC… that their claims were denied by insurers and they were refused healthcare service. obviously, none of this was true. luigi was never even a UHC client. it was all just one, massive cope by some of his supporters who attempted to find sense in his actions but couldn’t establish any real justification. at the time, the only reason that somewhat made sense was that luigi’s lower back injury drove him to the brink of insanity (and most lc users were eventually convinced that his back issue is/was not as serious as initially assumed).

at one point, seeing how popular luigi was on reddit, and how many faggots literally worshipped him (again: claiming to be champions of healthcare reform, but in reality, were truly fixated on his looks, and portrayed him as some pop-culture icon instead of a murder defendant), i actually made a post questioning this behavior. i asked “im confused as to why people keep sending thousands-millions of dollars to luigi mangione’s legal team, when he’s already considerably wealthy, and such large amounts could be better spent elsewhere— maybe by sending it to those in need who are sick, or on some type of healthcare reform advocacy.” i was downvoted to hell, kek. plebbit retards commented that helping US citizens in “individual cases” wouldn’t extrapolate to long-term healthcare reform, and that by funding luigi’s legal team, they were making a “broader” and “stronger” statement to the US government at large. i am by no means an active reddit user, but the conspicuous hypocrisy from western liberals was infuriating to watch. it still is. it’s also fucking retarded to see these people turn a blind eye to luigi’s transparent right-wing beliefs— beliefs that they’d berate anyone else for. they either ignore it, or make excuses for his “ignorance”. additionally, he’s never done shit for anyone else, despite his family having fuck tons of money. they say nothing about that either. if he were ugly, it would’ve been over for him by now.

now this might be a stretch, but… luigi’s bpdemons continue to follow and worship him because he’s their closest approximation to someone who represents normalcy. despite how obviously fucked up luigi is, he maintained a very desirable background— decent looking, upper class, wealthy, nice family, well educated, etc. then he fucking snaps and kills someone, supposedly for reasons of morality and justice. to the loser, bpdemon liberals, this is gold. someone who’s supposedly intelligent, attractive, and has a lot going for him has carried out their social-justice fantasies. suddenly, someone who’s successful and well-to-do feels just like them.

they cling to luigi’s image and actions because internally, they feel like they can truly relate to him. imo, they’re subconsciously proud to believe they share the same values as someone who’s rich, handsome, educated, and deeply privileged. they covet the exact traits and characteristics that they claim to despise. at least, that’s how i’ve interpreted their parasocial relationship w luigi.

The Crescent King said:
Will the defense deny the crime altogether or go for a mental illness angle?
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i think the mental illness angle is what they might resort to because nothing else will work when the odds are so stacked against him. he’s definitely going to be convicted… i just don’t think he’ll receive the death sentence
 
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The Crescent King said:
Will the defense deny the crime altogether or go for a mental illness angle?
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from Karen's mouth 12/10/2024

“It looks to me like there might be a not guilty by reason of insanity defense that they’re going to be thinking about because the evidence is going to be so overwhelming that he did what he did,”

“As a former prosecutor in that office, I would be concerned that you have someone who is a valedictorian of his class, he was brilliant his whole life, he comes from this great family. I mean, something changed, significantly, something changed. And they’re going to potentially have a not guilty by reason of insanity potential defense, so the prosecutors are going to try to shore that up as well in their investigation.”

 
nataliechin said:
So two days ago I had a one-hour call with his 3 lawyers, Luigi's lawyers. Luigi wrote me a two-page long letter that was written in August that I received 2 days before Christmas or even a day before Christmas. And it was interesting because when he came out with the 27 points one of the things he wrote on the 27 points is when my phone blew up is that Luigi is reading Your Next Five Moves in prison and other inmates are reading your next five moves as well in jail. So this is kind of how the exchange is going. So I'm talking to the lawyer…you know what? I was asking the lawyers and who knows maybe we'll do something together to go even deeper because one of the lawyers that's there, she's also a content creator and she gets a lot of eyeballs. She's with Meidas Touch and she does a very good job. She's a talent and obviously to be a lawyer for someone like this you have to be very good at what you do. All I want to know is how does this happen? How do you go from a guy that has a trajectory of getting to where he could have gone in life, being a good citizen, make good money, create jobs, get married, have kids, do all the stuff that he wants to do, to all of a sudden get to this point. I want to know how this led to this…because if we don’t… how many other Luigi’s are there? that we have to know that if we don't see patterns we can't prevent, right?
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This Patrick Bet-David letter caused a substantial crashout on the tumblr anon blogs and reddit, but less so on luitwt and discord. Supporters are NOT happy that Weeg stopped writing to his (mostly leftie) fans in August, and pivoted to writing to a conservative commentator/businessman/life insurance grifter. Probably not only PBD either... who knows who else of this type he writes to? He's still the same redpill-pipeline scrote he was in 2024, begging for acknowledgement from the moids he respects but don't respect him. Criticism even made it to the legal fund, donors probably hoping it would make its way to him.

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Today, NY Judge Carro scheduled Luigi's state trial for June 8, ahead of the federal pending trial in September, and even sooner than the prosecution had asked for. Reporters described a long sidebar before Luigi was brought in wearing his tans and shackles, during which they overheard some arguing and protests from Luigi's team which were rebuffed by the judge. On record, KFA said "we won't be ready" and was ignored.

At the end of the hearing, Luigi stood and loudly stated or yelled (depending on who you ask) "It's the same trial twice. One plus one is two. Double jeopardy by any commonsense definition." This is reflected in the official transcript:

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Apparently NY state law would make double jeopardy a possibility if the Feds went first, which is why Keren wanted to delay the state trial. Weeg must be punching a wall.

No photos today.
 
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Pure Kino, thanks for the detailed update. I want more Luigi crash outs.

What do you make of Karen's "we won't be ready claim"? Personally I'm excited at how fast things are moving. The facts of both trials are the same (pending the suppression results in the state trial), so what differing defenses can she make realistically? She better get ready instead of squatting on that dono money! :story:

Edit: Full hearing transcript. Most of what was said was in the sidebar so it's quite short. Justice Carro is very no-nonsense. Luigi's crash out is included.

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They aren’t prepared because they have to face two trials on top of one another. They have to make arguments for the forensics, CCTV footage, witnesses (not just the Altoona police), physical evidence, digital evidence, mitigation, etc. I don’t know how Karen will be able to do this in such a short amount of time.
 
weegeesbeautymark said:
They aren’t prepared because they have to face two trials on top of one another. They have to make arguments for the forensics, CCTV footage, witnesses (not just the Altoona police), physical evidence, digital evidence, mitigation, etc. I don’t know how Karen will be able to do this in such a short amount of time.
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Is that why he had an outburst?
 
The Crescent King said:
@Roar Splat Twitch Flush

Pure Kino, thanks for the detailed update. I want more Luigi crash outs.

What do you make of Karen's "we won't be ready claim"? Personally I'm excited at how fast things are moving. The facts of both trials are the same (pending the suppression results in the state trial), so what differing defenses can she make realistically? She better get ready instead of squatting on that dono money! :story:

Edit: Full hearing transcript. Most of what was said was in the sidebar so it's quite short. Justice Carro is very no-nonsense. Luigi's crash out is included.

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I mean, did he actually yell at the judge?And have an outburst? , or did he just say that?
 
loveyou1 said:
I mean, did he actually yell at the judge?And have an outburst? , or did he just say that?
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Are you a retard? Stop shitting up the thread with double posting and asking inane questions that are easily answerable by 1) reading the thread and 2) googling. If you don't have anything worthwhile to contribute, don't post.
 
The Crescent King said:
Are you a retard? Stop shitting up the thread with double posting and asking inane questions that are easily answerable by 1) reading the thread and 2) googling. If you don't have anything worthwhile to contribute, don't post.
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Damn calm down. Looks like you're getting nervous and angry just like luigi is. I mean , I understand you're getting angry because , you know it's not looking good for him. and nah i'm gonna keep posting. I'm not going anywhere. I'll still be on this forum. Deal with it.
 
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