Life after prison - What happens if Chris is One Day released from prison

[LinkinParkxNaruto[AMV]]

It would seem easier to for the legal system to permanently deal with Chris here and now rather have him bounce in and out of jail for who knows how long, and releasing him back on the streets. It would probably be a sexual assault or nuisance charge waiting to happen.

Chris really isn't that specical compared to the small army of crazy hobos that bounce back and forth from the system to the streets, hell, Chris probably wouldn't make Top 10 on the most mentally ill person in the jail he was sent to and he isn't even addicted to crystal meth.

Chris has been a public nuisance for a while though. Social services is well aware and the court must be tired of retards calling in. The only hope would be if the state is so fed up with this circus thay they move as many strings as possible to finally bury this tard as deep in the system as they can.

 

[Tennis-Ball-Tony]

Chris really isn't that specical compared to the small army of crazy hobos that bounce back and forth from the system to the streets, hell, Chris probably wouldn't make Top 10 on the most mentally ill person in the jail he was sent to and he isn't even addicted to crystal meth.

I keep thinking that's why Rob Bell created the Tard Law that Chris is currently experiencing. A lot more crazy people are booted back onto the streets quicker than Chris will be, but they can at least marginally function in a society. Five minutes talking to Chris and you can tell he's going to be a serious liability if he's put in anything other segregation, and once he eventually leaves.

Imagine the kind of crap that Rob had to put up with from Chris and his family enough to craft that kind of law. And that all happened before Chris went in more weird directions. Maybe Rob came up with the bill to keep people like him purposefully in the system since there wasn't anything carved out for them because he knew from personal experience, there was literally no way of dealing with people like Chris as an adult.

 

[Jeff_the_Thriller]

If Chris was a serial killer, what would his MO be?

I feel it would need to involve electricity. He throws coffee makers into bathtubs to zap those haters to the extreme.

 

[UncommonParlence]

I keep thinking that's why Rob Bell created the Tard Law that Chris is currently experiencing. A lot more crazy people are booted back onto the streets quicker than Chris will be, but they can at least marginally function in a society. Five minutes talking to Chris and you can tell he's going to be a serious liability if he's put in anything other segregation, and once he eventually leaves.

Imagine the kind of crap that Rob had to put up with from Chris and his family enough to craft that kind of law. And that all happened before Chris went in more weird directions. Maybe Rob came up with the bill to keep people like purposefully in the system since there wasn't anything carved out for them because he knew from personal experience, there was literally no way of dealing with people like Chris as an adult.

I think you're correct. That "deferment" seems designed to tie autists up in the system longer rather than give them a get out of jail free card. It subjects them to all kinds of terms and conditions as well as assessments and court required mental health services. All of it is conditional.

Chris is going to have to jump through a LOT of hoops if he ever wants to see the streets again. Half-way houses, therapy, medication, and if he fails to comply with any of it then the court can impose the maximum sentence... 10 years.

And do any of us imagine that Chris, in a million years, could ever comply with strict parole/probation conditions? If he is released it will be with strict conditions and at that point its a matter of when, not if, he violates.

A more savvy criminal would have taken the time while it was still in misdemeanor court and sat it out as quietly as possible. But Chris wanted "special" treatment and that's what he's getting.

He would have been out by now if he'd kept his fucking mouth shut and copped to his crime. It's well known that the probation/parole system is designed to fail and keep you IN the system. Everyone involved had to have known that Chris was incapable of compliance from day one.

 

[Ophelia]

I think you're correct. That "deferment" seems designed to tie autists up in the system longer rather than give them a get out of jail free card. It subjects them to all kinds of terms and conditions as well as assessments and court required mental health services. All of it is conditional.

Chris is going to have to jump through a LOT of hoops if he ever wants to see the streets again. Half-way houses, therapy, medication, and if he fails to comply with any of it then the court can impose the maximum sentence... 10 years.

And do any of us imagine that Chris, in a million years, could ever comply with strict parole/probation conditions? If he is released it will be with strict conditions and at that point its a matter of when, not if, he violates.

A more savvy criminal would have taken the time while it was still in misdemeanor court and sat it out as quietly as possible. But Chris wanted "special" treatment and that's what he's getting.

He would have been out by now if he'd kept his fucking mouth shut and copped to his crime. It's well known that the probation/parole system is designed to fail and keep you IN the system. Everyone involved had to have known that Chris was incapable of compliance from day one.

I’m inclined to think it should be hard for violent and/or lawbreaking tards who can’t keep their shit together to get out of the system. Too many people like Chris running around unchecked is obnoxious if not outright dangerous. I just wish the system was better. There should be warehouses of rooms staffed by minders for doydoys who can’t care for themselves and other mentally ill people with nowhere to go. Pay for it with their tard bucks.

 

[Friend Drazha]

Probably because if Bob had cut the internet, Chris would have nothing to do and would go bug both him and Barb more. The internet and computers was a way to babysit Chris and keep him from bothering them. We see how excited he gets at things, and without an outlet, he'd be like that to two old people, constantly. There's also the whole "What would Chris do without the internet" they needed to consider, because at that point, he really couldn't be trusted outside the house.

I think when Bob started to see patterns with Chris and other people, then saw the Pickle Man steal Chris's girl away, in addition to probably feeling her out not to be genuine, he probably did see people messing with Chris.

We also don't know if he did talk to Chris, and Chris, being himself, just blew it off. Chris has made mentions of Bob trying to impart fatherly wisdom or just plain common sense, and Chris being in no mood for it.

I guess that's what happens when you decide to have a kid in your 60s with a 40 year old wife.

You could make an argument that, just like Chris, they were both makers of their own misery.

 

[glass_houses]

I guess that's what happens when you decide to have a kid in your 60s with a 40 year old wife.

You could make an argument that, just like Chris, they were both makers of their own misery.

Not to mention which forty year old he chose to procreate with. Behaviourally, Barb was not suited for raising any child. At some point during Chris' early years, Bob should have had the wits to take Chris and run. Find a new rent-a-mother, make up with his old family, I don't know. But Bob should have caught onto the fact that Barb was disturbed and mentally ill, possibly even personality disordered, fairly quickly at his age. And he had a family that, if memory serves, dumped him because of Barb.

Bob really fucked up. He didn't protect Chris- or himself, come to think of it. Maybe it was easier just to not try.

 

[Ophelia]

I guess that's what happens when you decide to have a kid in your 60s with a 40 year old wife.

It’s been posited that Barb got pregnant on purpose to trap him. Maybe she lied about being on bc or maybe the rubber broke, who knows. I don’t blame him for Chris’s existence so much.

I wonder if he stayed because of some sense of honor. Good white husbands and fathers don’t break up their families, according to some old philosophies. It doesn’t occur to some people of his generation that leaving the crazy wife might be what’s best for the family.

 

[PCA]

I'm so glad this site is back up.
Whenever Chris gets released, I hope they don't let him have contact with his mother and I pray he won't be allowed to go back to Branchland Ct. I herd the house might be getting sold or taken back by the bank or some shit like that. I just hope that he can finally get the proper psychiatric help he needed from the start to help him get rid of a lot of his delusions but I fear it is probably too late.

 

[Ophelia]

I just hope that he can finally get the proper psychiatric help he needed from the start to help him get rid of a lot of his delusions but I fear it is probably too late.

It’s more like he engages in intense daydreams. He’s not having psychotic visions or schizophrenic episodes. If a shrink did somehow get Chris to stop daydreaming, what then? His life is so fucking miserable, taking away his mental escape could destroy him.

 

[D is for Stupid]

Not to mention which forty year old he chose to procreate with. Behaviourally, Barb was not suited for raising any child. At some point during Chris' early years, Bob should have had the wits to take Chris and run. Find a new rent-a-mother, make up with his old family, I don't know. But Bob should have caught onto the fact that Barb was disturbed and mentally ill, possibly even personality disordered, fairly quickly at his age. And he had a family that, if memory serves, dumped him because of Barb.

Bob really fucked up. He didn't protect Chris- or himself, come to think of it. Maybe it was easier just to not try.

Bob was just to old to deal with Chris or barb.
Since barb didn't discipline him, Bob was by himself to set him straight but he's old and figure Chris was smart enough to "grow out of it" since he was "high functioning". The logic is trial by fire, he'll grow out of it but it didn't work. And to be that old, your not going to play catch with him or program a game together, you're going to let him do whatever he wants and try to correct his course when fucks up. Of course that didn't work either, he was too old to swing that axe to cut it down.

Bob wanted Chris to be a successful person in society, like that letter he left for Chris, the one Chris scoffs at because Bob said sonichu should be a champion for autism.

Barb was a second chance to have semifunctioning family. It's all he had and tried his best to keep it together at his age.

With hindsight, they both shouldn't of had Chris. One didn't care and the other was too old. But I do think barb was the worse out of the two. At least bad enough to make your 16 old child move the fuck out*.

Remember, they both instilled the idea that he's always right and can't do wrong. I guess barb did it more.


*Cole did also mention that Bob was a dick to him but I don't know the extent.

 

[Ophelia]

*Cole did also mention that Bob was a dick to him but I don't know the extent.

iirc, Cole backed away from those claims later.

 

[glass_houses]

Bob was just to old to deal with Chris or barb.
Since barb didn't discipline him, Bob was by himself to set him straight but he's old and figure Chris was smart enough to "grow out of it" since he was "high functioning". The logic is trial by fire, he'll grow out of it but it didn't work. And to be that old, your not going to play catch with him or program a game together, you're going to let him do whatever he wants and try to correct his course when fucks up. Of course that didn't work either, he was too old to swing that axe to cut it down.

Bob wanted Chris to be a successful person in society, like that letter he left for Chris, the one Chris scoffs at because Bob said sonichu should be a champion for autism.

Barb was a second chance to have semifunctioning family. It's all he had and tried his best to keep it together at his age.

With hindsight, they both shouldn't of had Chris. One didn't care and the other was too old. But I do think barb was the worse out of the two. At least bad enough to make your 16 old child move the fuck out*.

Remember, they both instilled the idea that he's always right and can't do wrong. I guess barb did it more.


*Cole did also mention that Bob was a dick to him but I don't know the extent.

I don't know a great deal about Cole. Whether that's because the CWCipedia at the time didn't have a great deal to say about him, or because my memory is shot right now, I can't say. What little I do remember about Cole, the abuse he spoke of, in addition to Barb doting on Chris, is very much in line with what I've read about narcissists and how they raise their children. There's a scapegoat (Cole) who is abused and is blamed for everything that irks the narcissist, and a golden child (Chris) who can do no wrong. I seriously wonder if Barb is a narc.

 

[BobJones997]

I don't know a great deal about Cole. Whether that's because the CWCipedia at the time didn't have a great deal to say about him, or because my memory is shot right now, I can't say. What little I do remember about Cole, the abuse he spoke of, in addition to Barb doting on Chris, is very much in line with what I've read about narcissists and how they raise their children. There's a scapegoat (Cole) who is abused and is blamed for everything that irks the narcissist, and a golden child (Chris) who can do no wrong. I seriously wonder if Barb is a narc.

Not to power level too much but I have known a lot of people with NPD throughout my life so I have some experience in this area. Usually I would never make an armchair diagnosis on this, because it is extremely hard to tell without actually knowing someone. A lot of people are shitty in real life but not necessarily narcissists, and I see a lot people claim that certain celebrities etc are narcissists with very little proof. However in Barb's case I will make an exception. She almost certainly suffers from NPD or at the very least has some sort of ASPD. Here are three reasons why I'm pretty much convinced.

1) In one of the Kacey calls Barb goes off on Bob about something he did years and years ago that was probably very minor. Essentially he asked her to help unload the car and Barb goes off about how he's abusive when he asked her to do that. This is classic narcissist behavior. They will hold a grudge for years over something a normal person would find incredibly petty, in fact a lot of the times you won't even know that you even did anything wrong. It's really crappy and cowardly behavior but Narcs love doing it and think they're justified.
2) Barb never cooked again after Chris and Bob refused a dinner. This is a classic punishment that is doled out by a narcissist. When a narcissist punishes someone for a perceived wrong they always go over the top and do something extremely insane and disproportionate and refuse to ever forgive no matter what. Barb doing this over the spaghetti dinner is inline with NPD.

3) Barb burned her bridges with everyone including her family. Usually this happens with narcissists, in fact it makes total sense why Cole was forced to go no contact with her.

There are of course more reasons why I highly suspect she has NPD (Cole/Chris abuse, constant lying, refusing to accept guilt over the Game Place incident etc) but those imo are the biggest tells that she has NPD.

 

[Ophelia]

2) Barb never cooked again after Chris and Bob refused a dinner.

If we only have Chris’s word on this, I don’t believe it to be true. I do believe she told them she’d never cook again, but she likely at least cooked for her self. Otherwise, yes to everything.

 

[Optimus Prime]

I'm so glad this site is back up.
Whenever Chris gets released, I hope they don't let him have contact with his mother and I pray he won't be allowed to go back to Branchland Ct. I herd the house might be getting sold or taken back by the bank or some shit like that. I just hope that he can finally get the proper psychiatric help he needed from the start to help him get rid of a lot of his delusions but I fear it is probably too late.

Everything regarding the house is pure theory at this point, based on inference of the fact Chris is gone, Barb's likely being cared for by her sister, and the house has an outstanding mortgage or something that isn't being paid off right now.

As I recall, though, in one of the last few Chris letters from lockup, he outright states that all attempts he's made to reach out to Barb have failed, possibly implying she has completely cut off her son. Given in these same letters, Chris wants Barb to fucking drop dead already so he can go back to the house once he inherits it, Barb finally ditching his ass isn't an undeserved act at this point.

It’s more like he engages in intense daydreams. He’s not having psychotic visions or schizophrenic episodes. If a shrink did somehow get Chris to stop daydreaming, what then? His life is so fucking miserable, taking away his mental escape could destroy him.

Like what happened with the Simonla Incident, where he was Catch-22'd into breaking the laws of his own fictional universe through causing the death of one of his stupid cartoon creatures. He just completely shut down.

Maybe in a group home he'll finally get that special education he dearly needed so long ago, where above all else he finally learns that no, you're not a fucking special snowflake, particularly not the second coming of Jesus Christ, you're not a woman, and life is shit for everyone but we make it look easy because we are fucking dealing with it instead of crawling into a hidey hole with imaginary pokemon hedgehogs.

 

[Ophelia]

Maybe in a group home he'll finally get that special education he dearly needed so long ago, where above all else he finally learns that no, you're not a fucking special snowflake,

He might get a better sense of his place in the world.

particularly not the second coming of Jesus Christ,

Lots of people pretend to think they’re Jesus. Chris isn’t even special in his dumb larps.

you're not a woman,

He’s been living as a woman for how long now? No one is going to make him stop doing it.

and life is shit for everyone but we make it look easy because we are fucking dealing with it

I don’t think he’s capable of dealing with it. He is both retarded and very stupid. The idiocy ruins him more than the autism; lots of autistic people make something of themselves.

 

[Tennis-Ball-Tony]

I wonder if he stayed because of some sense of honor. Good white husbands and fathers don’t break up their families, according to some old philosophies. It doesn’t occur to some people of his generation that leaving the crazy wife might be what’s best for the family.

It gets harder to just pack up and run off when you get older like Bob was, especially if he took Chris along. In this situation, there's also Barb to deal with, so he probably assumed she'd go ape shit and tear apart half the eastern seaboard in order to find him again to get money or something out of him. Plus, we don't really know specifics of his first marriage, but from what we do know, it was probably pretty bad if his adult children still had negative feelings towards Bob. I think like Barb, he was "stuck" in that relationship for better or for worse.

As I recall, though, in one of the last few Chris letters from lockup, he outright states that all attempts he's made to reach out to Barb have failed, possibly implying she has completely cut off her son. Given in these same letters, Chris wants Barb to fucking drop dead already so he can go back to the house once he inherits it, Barb finally ditching his ass isn't an undeserved act at this point.

That's one of the most interesting things to have come out from Chris since this all started; that Barb just cut off contact with him. I'd like to think it was because, well her tard son wasn't coming up with his tard gold anymore, but from Chris saying she's been like a zombie for years, most likely ever since he started taking those classes in caregiving years ago, that Barb just completely forgot about Chris since he wasn't around every day. Sort of like how Chris hasn't given two craps about ponies or any mainstream media he'd consume by being removed from it.

Hell, even Chris came up with "my mom that I loved for years and years needs to just die or be arrested for abuse" all on his own while locked up, most likely because he's been removed from being around her, and found out that she'd be a gate in getting what he ultimately wants. Can't tell if that's autism or Chris just being a Chandler.

 

[Hogar Grupal]

Imagine the kind of crap that Rob had to put up with from Chris and his family enough to craft that kind of law. And that all happened before Chris went in more weird directions. Maybe Rob came up with the bill to keep people like him purposefully in the system since there wasn't anything carved out for them because he knew from personal experience, there was literally no way of dealing with people like Chris as an adult.

With Chris being born when he was and his history, It's not hard to assume that Chris' life would be in limbo. If Chris was an addict with hard drugs or alcohol (Chris' addiction is to plastic), he would've been in treatment programs. Unfortunately for himself, Chris is self-destructive; he's easily manipulated, and has acted in odd ways during the course of his early adult life. Unlike other people with autism, they weren't raised the way Chris was: they have been able to contribute to society and have been law abiding.

Despite the money Chris makes from being an 'artist' and a 'celebrity', all he's going to be known for is being catfished, being a sexual deviant, and not knowing how money works. It was only a matter of time before Chris would end up homeless or in jail, and this law is his saving grace, even though he doesn't realize it. I wonder if Heilberg would be in conversations with Rob Bell to talk about more on how the latter defended Chris?

In one of the Kacey calls Barb goes off on Bob about something he did years and years ago that was probably very minor. Essentially he asked her to help unload the car and Barb goes off about how he's abusive when he asked her to do that. This is classic narcissist behavior. They will hold a grudge for years over something a normal person would find incredibly petty, in fact a lot of the times you won't even know that you even did anything wrong. It's really crappy and cowardly behavior but Narcs love doing it and think they're justified.

Unfortunately, it's one of the traits that Chris learned from Barb, seeing that he was closer to her than to Bob. Be glad that Chris didn't have kids (lmao), that if by some miracle he does, chances are his kids would repeat that cycle of narcissism.

He might get a better sense of his place in the world.

Chris' place in this world is to sort glass. Once he know how much work would go into drawing comics, Chris became lazier and started drawing shitty ship cards. Chris had a high opinion of himself and didn't know his limitations. Chris has no talents (other than attracting unwanted attention and getting people to laugh at him).

Can't tell if that's autism or Chris just being a Chandler.

Really Chris is being a Weston. The Chandler side has been more smart (in Bob's case, before he met Barb). Look at Bob's kids, versus Chris. The Westons have a history about being drunk, lecherous white trash tards.

 

[Jon Osterman]

I wonder if he stayed because of some sense of honor. Good white husbands and fathers don’t break up their families, according to some old philosophies. It doesn’t occur to some people of his generation that leaving the crazy wife might be what’s best for the family.

Divorce is frowned upon in Christianity and considered a last resort after everything else failed. Bob already had one divorce in his life, and probably had the mindset that he couldn't do that anymore and needed to settle down, especially at his age.

If we only have Chris’s word on this, I don’t believe it to be true. I do believe she told them she’d never cook again, but she likely at least cooked for her self. Otherwise, yes to everything.

With the kitchen being upstairs and Barb in full snorlax form being downstairs, she might have been looking for any excuse to not drag her ass up so she can cook and just send Chris out to get food.

Like what happened with the Simonla Incident, where he was Catch-22'd into breaking the laws of his own fictional universe through causing the death of one of his stupid cartoon creatures. He just completely shut down.

Maybe in a group home he'll finally get that special education he dearly needed so long ago, where above all else he finally learns that no, you're not a fucking special snowflake, particularly not the second coming of Jesus Christ, you're not a woman, and life is shit for everyone but we make it look easy because we are fucking dealing with it instead of crawling into a hidey hole with imaginary pokemon hedgehogs.

The issue is now Chris has turned himself a goddess that has dominion over everything and can solve any problems his fictional world might face. And he has cemented this goddess form with the help of enablers and weens for four years now, so I'm not sure he'll ever give up his fantasy world and only chance at being important unless they do some cult level brainwashing at the group home. Chris will never just deal with it ever again because he has created a fantasy world where he is a perfect being that everyone loves and solves everything with a token fight, and he can just continue to go deeper.