Life after prison - What happens if Chris is One Day released from prison

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Okay, so the judge is trying to see if he is competent to stand trial right now rather than if he is insane.

Are you saying said judge wouldn’t look at any of Chris’s past internet history in any of these proceedings?

The judge in a Virginia competency hearing won't look at any of it. The evaluation is done by an accredited mental health professional, and a report is sent to the judge. The investigator won't look at any of it either, because competency only looks at his current ability to go to trial and understand what's going on, and what the steps are to return the person to competency (if possible).

Chris' rantings from 5 years ago have nothing to do with whether he can understand a trial.
 
Your last three points make no sense in prosecuting an insanity defense. Insane people are horny, need money, and get lonely.
In legal terms, insane people don't premeditate. Sure they are horny buy Chris knew it was wrong enough to not shout from the rooftops, "Hey, everybody! I just fucked my mom!" Again knew stealing his mom's bank card was wrong, that's why he hid that fact from null. Even for a complete lunatic like Chris, insanity is difficult to prove. He needs to demonstrate he doesn't know right from wrong. He definitely does but he's had ass kissed and been coddled his entire life so he doesn't under actions have consequence.
 
In legal terms, insane people don't premeditate. Sure they are horny buy Chris knew it was wrong enough to not shout from the rooftops, "Hey, everybody! I just fucked my mom!" Again knew stealing his mom's bank card was wrong, that's why he hid that fact from null. Even for a complete lunatic like Chris, insanity is difficult to prove. He needs to demonstrate he doesn't know right from wrong. He definitely does but he's had ass kissed and been coddled his entire life so he doesn't under actions have consequence.
Do we have any evidence he is being charged with theft or breaking the restraining order ?

From the beginning I felt Chris getting charged with bank account shit would be iffy.

1: violation of restraining order: their finances appear to be interconnected so abiding by pre existing arrangements that don't require contact I'm not sure would fall under violation of the restraining order.

I suspect it might be an issue that is arguable and a pissed off prosecutor might go for it.

2: theft : seems like a tougher argument. The restraining order is something imposed by the state while they were investigating barbs faculties and Chris's crimes. So violation of that breaks the law regardless of how barb feels about it.

Theft I'm not sure would be as easy an argument without barb acknowledging it wasn't approved of. Sure this changes a bit if barb is deemed incompetent but it just seems to be an uphill battle from multiple perspectives


For example

1: it's like 300 dollars. It's in the scheme of things a very small amount of money that can easily be argued he had pre existing approval for ( particularly if sharing of resources in their lives is common)


2: it would be a long road of argumentation for what is itself a petty larceny crime .

Again I think an angry prosecutor could toss it on if they really wanted negotiating power. It almost certainly would be among first to be dropped in a deal thoguh
 
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Insanity in US courts means delusional, not crazy. As in hallucinating to a degree you can't tell reality from fiction at all.

You have to prove that you thought granny was a dragon and didn't knew it was granny that you beheaded with your larp axe. Or that you mistook the local library for Auswitz and just blew it up to free Shlomo. It is almost impossible to pull off, and you really need to be totally crazy.

Chris is very crazy, but not there yet. When he mistakes the prison guard for Sonichu and tries to fly into a fridge with him, that will do it, but they'll have to prove he was that dumb when Barb got the Bent Duck.
 
Do we have any evidence he is being charged with theft or breaking the restraining order
They probably won't because the incest is the big ticket item that could lead to big jail time. I'm not very knowledgeable with all this, but I believe that if Chris was smart, he could've plead down to violation of the no contact order to get a lighter sentence as long as the prosecution agreed.
Insanity in US courts means delusional, not crazy. As in hallucinating to a degree you can't tell reality from fiction at all.
Exactly. More specifically it's delusions that impair a person's ability to tell right from wrong (like the examples you provided). Chris' beliefs in alternate dimensions and cartoon character walking around in the real world doesn't hinder his ability to tell right from wrong, meaning he can't be insane.
 
I'm not very knowledgeable with all this, but I believe that if Chris was smart, he could've plead down to violation of the no contact order to get a lighter sentence as long as the prosecution agreed.
His lawyer is smart so Chris doesn’t have to be.

Chris' beliefs in alternate dimensions and cartoon character walking around in the real world doesn't hinder his ability to tell right from wrong, meaning he can't be insane.
And that’s assuming he actually believes all that and isn’t just playing pretend.
 
I barely care about Chrissy boy but I think he's gonna get out by the time we don't care about him, live in the ghetto with gangsters or some shit, and receive his well-earned "Biggest Faggot" award on a big shiny button
Eh, so long as there are autistic christorians, Chris will have people following him. Remember this site was started as a Chris Chan discussion forum, so we're always gonna have atleast afew people following him.

The Geno documentary still gets 200-500 thousand views per video, even as we get into the boring era I imagine he's still gonna get decent views, Chris is just an interesting figure and people will always be interested in him
 
Eh, so long as there are autistic christorians, Chris will have people following him. Remember this site was started as a Chris Chan discussion forum, so we're always gonna have atleast afew people following him.

The Geno documentary still gets 200-500 thousand views per video, even as we get into the boring era I imagine he's still gonna get decent views, Chris is just an interesting figure and people will always be interested in him
If new content ceases, so might interest in Chris. It would take a while, but it could happen.
 
If new content ceases, so might interest in Chris. It would take a while, but it could happen.
Chris in his present form has kinda gone into obscurity, no one cares about the ramblings of a mentally ill incestuous rapist except hyper autists and people who have made a career out of talking about Chris. People are mostly interested in his past to see how he degenerated and got to the point he'd diddle his own mother, kinda treating it like a character study. I wouldn't be surprised if in 10-20 years there's a shitty movie or miniseries about him where Jewsh finally gets cast as a basement dwelling Floridian.
 
Insanity in US courts means delusional, not crazy. As in hallucinating to a degree you can't tell reality from fiction at all.

You have to prove that you thought granny was a dragon and didn't knew it was granny that you beheaded with your larp axe. Or that you mistook the local library for Auswitz and just blew it up to free Shlomo. It is almost impossible to pull off, and you really need to be totally crazy.

Chris is very crazy, but not there yet. When he mistakes the prison guard for Sonichu and tries to fly into a fridge with him, that will do it, but they'll have to prove he was that dumb when Barb got the Bent Duck.
Again no.
Someone being delusional doesnt mean they lack any ability to understand right from wrong. Lots of people have idiosyncratic beliefs that will not be upturned by any amount of facts. Something like 40 percent of americans believe in ghosts. Like ten percent believe in vampires. That doesnt mean they are insane and if it did there would be far far more uses of insanity defences .

"as in hallucinating" delusions also arent all hallucinations.

as we already covered ; Insanity in US courts means an inability towards rational thought/ specifically to be able to understand right from wrong. A guy might be friends with a chick and be convinced she is into him. Everything she does gets filtered through thoughts into a conclusion that she not only wants him but wants him to take action. So he sets a date up and nearing the end of the evening forces himself on her with idea that her protests are all part of the romance.
Now yes the guy was deluded by his own self interest, bias , and perhaps even mental illness. He still wasnt insane. He knew that rape is wrong but had come up with a rationalisation of how there was (deep down) consent despite her panicked protests.
They probably won't because the incest is the big ticket item that could lead to big jail time. I'm not very knowledgeable with all this, but I believe that if Chris was smart, he could've plead down to violation of the no contact order to get a lighter sentence as long as the prosecution agreed.

Exactly. More specifically it's delusions that impair a person's ability to tell right from wrong (like the examples you provided). Chris' beliefs in alternate dimensions and cartoon character walking around in the real world doesn't hinder his ability to tell right from wrong, meaning he can't be insane.
Well as far as i know in most jurisdictions in the US its entirely up to the prosecution. The prosecution can just throw their case at a wall and withdraw if they really want to. In fact plea deals are typically WHY they stack the charge list. It doesnt cost the prosecution much to tack on charges and gives easy bargaining chips. That said there is no reason they would want to suggest or accept a plea deal that took (potentially) two felonies and reduced it to an ancillary misdemeanor. Such a scenario i could only ever imagine if there was nearly zero good case on everything else and the prosecution just wanted the guy to serve SOME time out of whole ordeal.
Prosecution likely wants any plea to include the incest charge which the lawyer almost certainly would be fine agreeing to. Seeing how his ultimate goal is what would in theory be best for his client chris. Which is being thrown in a home far away from barb. All he wants is to wipe away as much risk as possible of prison time and prevent any felony pleas.
 
Prosecution likely wants any plea to include the incest charge which the lawyer almost certainly would be fine agreeing to. Seeing how his ultimate goal is what would in theory be best for his client chris. Which is being thrown in a home far away from barb. All he wants is to wipe away as much risk as possible of prison time and prevent any felony pleas.
Good to see there are well informed people around. I remember a lot of other people saying that Heilberg was collaborating with the prosecution for a lot of the sentencing, and the original plan was to get Chris to plea to misdemeanor incest and be out by this August. That fell through because Chris is an idiot, so now he has to use his backup plan of the deferment.
I wouldn't be surprised if in 10-20 years there's a shitty movie or miniseries about him where Jewsh finally gets cast as a basement dwelling Floridian.
Most normal people don't care to hear about a 40 year old troon that banged his mom, in fact most would rather never learn about Chris' existence. Unless he storms 14BC and personally kills Barb, Chris will only have a niche audience who can stomach how insane he is.
 
Chris has been quiet on the letters part since the end of July. I wonder if his attorney has finally gotten it into Chris' head that the best way to help his predicament is for Chris to shut up for once.
 
As I've said before he's going to be a revolving door case if he does get released without significant support, and that would mean he loses a lot of his own personal freedom including access to his money and not being able to decide where and how he lives (if he get's the tard farm treatment).

What will cause the most reaction from Chris is him losing his access to new toys (he's less attached to his old one's than we thought it seems) but Chris does seem to get enjoyment from getting new toys and games plays with them till the novelty wears off and then they just end up on the pile, but outside of that it's the little creature comforts he's used too like junk food not being able to get any or afford much (or being prevented from buying it to begin with) will cause the most reaction from him.

So he will resort to getting sticky fingered because he deserves it and now that he's lost his fear of Jail or Prison he will just get bolder and bolder each time he tries, starting off small by not ringing up something at a self checkout (and he's already tried shop lifting before) or doing those stupid life hacks like ringing stuff in as Onions etc, and he will get caught and then cause a scene and then wind up back in front of the court get a punishment, get released and then the cycle starts all over again.

@Ophelia I can't quote you for some reason but no community Chris is legitimately part of or one he identifies with wants him, He's been called the "Black Face of Autism" and some of the people on that Autisim is a supper power forum (I forget the name but there is a thread on them) hate it whenever he get's brought up even in passing as they want nothing to do with him, Bronies try and avoid talking about him for gods sake and they have really low standards.

It's frankly amazing that he's considered the cat shit under a dog turd by so many really awful community groups with really low standards.
 
As I've said before he's going to be a revolving door case if he does get released without significant support, and that would mean he loses a lot of his own personal freedom including access to his money and not being able to decide where and how he lives (if he get's the tard farm treatment).

What will cause the most reaction from Chris is him losing his access to new toys (he's less attached to his old one's than we thought it seems) but Chris does seem to get enjoyment from getting new toys and games plays with them till the novelty wears off and then they just end up on the pile, but outside of that it's the little creature comforts he's used too like junk food not being able to get any or afford much (or being prevented from buying it to begin with) will cause the most reaction from him.

So he will resort to getting sticky fingered because he deserves it and now that he's lost his fear of Jail or Prison he will just get bolder and bolder each time he tries, starting off small by not ringing up something at a self checkout (and he's already tried shop lifting before) or doing those stupid life hacks like ringing stuff in as Onions etc, and he will get caught and then cause a scene and then wind up back in front of the court get a punishment, get released and then the cycle starts all over again.

@Ophelia I can't quote you for some reason but no community Chris is legitimately part of or one he identifies with wants him, He's been called the "Black Face of Autism" and some of the people on that Autisim is a supper power forum (I forget the name but there is a thread on them) hate it whenever he get's brought up even in passing as they want nothing to do with him, Bronies try and avoid talking about him for gods sake and they have really low standards.

It's frankly amazing that he's considered the cat shit under a dog turd by so many really awful community groups with really low standards.
Well it's hard to gauge how he feels about all of his stuff. I'm not clear on if he is aware that much of it's likely tossed out. What's more surprising is how easily he accepted the loss of his only real lifelong human contact through barb.

Whether all of this would result in Chris starting to steal. Well it depends how much freedom a home would give him. I don't view Chris as having a mindset that's particularly conducive to stealing. Whether he would easily consider it or has some firm moral objectives against it ( which he might very well have as some of his limited moral palette).


That said if they gave him infinite freedom but never any pocket money ( and specifically prevented him from raising gibs); then yeah through desperation I could see him turning to lego theft lol
 
Chris in his present form has kinda gone into obscurity, no one cares about the ramblings of a mentally ill incestuous rapist except hyper autists and people who have made a career out of talking about Chris. People are mostly interested in his past to see how he degenerated and got to the point he'd diddle his own mother, kinda treating it like a character study. I wouldn't be surprised if in 10-20 years there's a shitty movie or miniseries about him where Jewsh finally gets cast as a basement dwelling Floridian.
I don't think many people are getting into Chris now who weren't already into him. Now he's like that shitty TV show people keep watching even though it hasn't been good in years because you just have to see how it ends at this point, even though it's just disappointing and depressing.

There just isn't much funny about raping your own mother and claiming to be Jesus while getting conned by a bunch of other even more retarded idiots.

Barb's life more or less culminated and ended in a series of rapes and her retarded rapist son is the only thing anyone will remember about her.
 
Well it's hard to gauge how he feels about all of his stuff. I'm not clear on if he is aware that much of it's likely tossed out. What's more surprising is how easily he accepted the loss of his only real lifelong human contact through barb.

Whether all of this would result in Chris starting to steal. Well it depends how much freedom a home would give him. I don't view Chris as having a mindset that's particularly conducive to stealing. Whether he would easily consider it or has some firm moral objectives against it ( which he might very well have as some of his limited moral palette).


That said if they gave him infinite freedom but never any pocket money ( and specifically prevented him from raising gibs); then yeah through desperation I could see him turning to lego theft lol

I thought he would miss his toys at first and that would be what broke him inside Jail and Prison but that simply hasn't happened, the had the shouty stompy moment in his first court session about wanting his stuff before he felt safe (parroting words an phrases he's picked up from the trans groups) but that was mostly because he just bought it so he hadn't had a chance for the novelty to wear off and end up as part of the horde.

His emotional salve is getting a new toy, rember Barb bribed him into talking by buying him toys if he could pronounce the name if he did anything positive he got a reward, or if his sulks had too much of a impact on her she gave him a toy - it's not really the toy that he hankers after (although that is part of it) it's the endorphin rush of getting a new thing.

It's almost a kin to the guy who's always been just above the poverty line not because he's got a shit job but because he's terrible with money and trying to keep up with the Joneses suddenly winning the lottery who then goes on a massive spending spree for a few years on luxury items like cars, watches, wine, women an song only to end right back where he started a year or so later with nothing to show for it - it's not the money that's a problem it's the addiction to getting new stuff so it's always the newest and best.

Chris has a big sense of self entitlement, if he's denied something long enough that he feels he's deserving of or entitled to like the Art award in school, toy's, games etc he has no problem taking from others like when he stole from barb and bob in the past, taking out lines of credit with no intention of paying it back, and the odd occasion he's tried to steal so far, hell he's tried to con people into sex in the past like when he pretened to be liquid to Kacey, or when he tried to guilt a hooker into fucking him (pre Mia Ham). He thinks his needs over ride anyone else's wants, needs and rights because he deserves it - if you limit his legal access to things he wants by restricting his access to money (much like bob did when he first stole from them) he will find a way of justifying himself stealing and act on it especially if he's not had a fix in a while.

Barb's life more or less culminated and ended in a series of rapes and her retarded rapist son is the only thing anyone will remember about her.

She lived a sad sorry existence mostly of her own making, no friends, no family, no social life, nothing youd just have if you where a OK person let alone a "Good" person. I think that's going to be the saddest part of her life when the scales of Karmic existence are judged in the afterlife there is nobody who isn't legally or morally obligated to get involved with her of their own volition.

She didn't deserve to be raped nobody does, but Chris was a problem of her own making to a very large extent she never tried to get him to do things that would be benifical solely to him she had to benefit in some way as well - there is a call I can't recall the name of now where she chastised Chris for not doing anything around the house and she had to do everything and she wanted him to start pulling his weight, from the outside that was perfectly normal and acceptable but this is when the house was in full on horder mode so she wasn't doing anything but sitting down, watching TV and reading etc and at the time she was far more active and functional than she is now.

She never encouraged him to behave or at least moderate his odd behaviour outside the home because as long as she wasn't effected it wasn't her problem if anything she was glad he was out and doing his weird shit away from her because she didn't even have to pretend to care about his well being.

Chris was never going to be normal this was clear from a young age but he was allowed to get as bad as he has because she was mostly disinterested in him developing and viewed him as a helper monkey at best and a embarrassing burden to her at worst. Bob wasn't much better but he atleast tried in his own misguided way to get Chris to at least try but even he gave up and with someone like Chris it's a whole family effort to get them to have a glimmer of normality.

Chris hasn't been funny in years he's been that really bad car crash you can't quite take your eyes off no matter how many pretzel shaped people you see tangled in the wreckage you just need to see how it ends and it ended with a bigger mess than anybody ever thought could or would happen.
 
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