Life after prison - What happens if Chris is One Day released from prison

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Ophelia said:
Putting Chris front and center as an example of the big bad evil trans monster Fox viewers love to hate helps no one in the alphabet community. They don’t want people like Chris and Yaniv come to mind when someone hears about a trans person.
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We really need a new type of prison for people like Chris and yan thanks for reminding me of that guy fuck
 
Ophelia said:
Putting Chris front and center as an example of the big bad evil trans monster Fox viewers love to hate helps no one in the alphabet community. They don’t want people like Chris and Yaniv come to mind when someone hears about a trans person.
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I've never met a trans person in person before the past few years of it hiking up in popularity, to be completely honest. And I'm not in a conservative area, even, quite the opposite. I'm sure I'd walked by one on the street perhaps that passed well enough to not attract attention, but nowadays it's not uncommon to see teens to early 20s MtFs when I'm out and about and they usually are of the appearance like those you see on here and Twitter, albeit not often as extremely clownish as Chris.

If they wanted a "face" of the community I would've expected it might have been better to just continue not trying to attract special attention and pass reasonably well. But that doesn't seem to be a goal. If you want people to see you as a woman for example don't shout from the rooftops that you aren't really one.
 
Chazzed Up said:
I've never met a trans person in person before the past few years of it hiking up in popularity, to be completely honest. And I'm not in a conservative area, even, quite the opposite. I'm sure I'd walked by one on the street perhaps that passed well enough to not attract attention, but nowadays it's not uncommon to see teens to early 20s MtFs when I'm out and about and they usually are of the appearance like those you see on here and Twitter, albeit not often as extremely clownish as Chris.

If they wanted a "face" of the community I would've expected it might have been better to just continue not trying to attract special attention and pass reasonably well. But that doesn't seem to be a goal. If you want people to see you as a woman for example don't shout from the rooftops that you aren't really one.
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There are several types of trans people. Let's consider MtF by itself for a moment.

1) People who truly felt they were female. In the past, this was pretty much all transwomen. They suffered horrible discrimination in the past and often had to hide their identity, outside of private hidden situations where they could be themselves. Modern politics has let them achieve this, to be free to be themselves, and that is a good thing.

2) People who were jealous of how women have it easier socially. In the past, discrimination deterred them from trying this path. Now they can. They make shit women, because they're really just men who crave female privilege, and now that male privilege has been somewhat erased, it's been tactically beneficial to try to claim female privilege.

3) Absolute deviant fucks who don't really care what gender they are, but want to claim victim points to distract from their other issues. For them, it's not that they want to be male or female, they want to be *TRANS*. Their gender identity is less important than their TRANS identity. These are the most insufferable troon fuckers.

Chris is a mixture of cases 2 and 3. He is most definitely not case 1.

EDIT: The FtM equivalent of this is more or less the same, except in case 2 they wanted male privilege. This has been eroded in recent years, so it's not as effective. Sometimes women would assume male identities to enter in to male-only professions, for instance. They don't have to do that anymore, so case 2 doesn't really exist for FtM anymore.
 
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Pointless Sperg said:
There are several types of trans people. Let's consider MtF by itself for a moment.

1) People who truly felt they were female. In the past, this was pretty much all transwomen. They suffered horrible discrimination in the past and often had to hide their identity, outside of private hidden situations where they could be themselves. Modern politics has let them achieve this, to be free to be themselves, and that is a good thing.

2) People who were jealous of how women have it easier socially. In the past, discrimination deterred them from trying this path. Now they can. They make shit women, because they're really just men who crave female privilege, and now that male privilege has been somewhat erased, it's been tactically beneficial to try to claim female privilege.

3) Absolute deviant fucks who don't really care what gender they are, but want to claim victim points to distract from their other issues. For them, it's not that they want to be male or female, they want to be *TRANS*. Their gender identity is less important than their TRANS identity. These are the most insufferable troon fuckers.

Chris is a mixture of cases 2 and 3. He is most definitely not case 1.

EDIT: The FtM equivalent of this is more or less the same, except in case 2 they wanted male privilege. This has been eroded in recent years, so it's not as effective. Sometimes women would assume male identities to enter in to male-only professions, for instance. They don't have to do that anymore, so case 2 doesn't really exist for FtM anymore.
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Like I said, I haven't had much experience with trans people irl as far as people who I knew were trans. It's harder for them to project that status in person unless they have some obvious indicator, which is either not passing convincingly or otherwise some kind of shirt/pin/merchandise type stuff of the flag, or just outright stating it.

The ones I've run into consistently online though have always seemed to fall into another category of those who fetishize the opposite sex, usually in relation to anime/cartoons/etc. Like several of the "muh yaoi" type people I saw running around fandom 10+ years ago are now trans men and for some totally incidental reason, adopted characteristics of their husbandos, just like MtF often do with their anime waifus. It does exist for both sexes, not just MtF, though I think there is a higher volume going from male to female for reason #2.

I suppose it's possible those people always were trans at heart and just gravitated toward characters they felt reflected their "ideal", but I have a feeling the topic is probably more just about blatant self-hatred at heart, or maybe internalized hatred of their gender. For men this could be people like Chris who felt like they weren't masculine or didn't attract the attention of women (the classic "I became my waifu" thing), maybe for women they desire the power/status men can have. Makes me think of Randy Stair again, as far as I know he never voiced or showed any indications of being trans until he became fixated on his waifu, which seemed to be an extension of him wanting to escape a life he didn't enjoy, maybe he thought being a girl would be a better life. I don't think it's always strictly about gender but also about the lifestyle that one perceives the opposite gender can enjoy (usually not very rooted in reality either). Randy and Chris also both were heterosexual men before becoming trans, so it wasn't about escaping being gay.
 
Pointless Sperg said:
There are several types of trans people. Let's consider MtF by itself for a moment.

1) People who truly felt they were female. In the past, this was pretty much all transwomen. They suffered horrible discrimination in the past and often had to hide their identity, outside of private hidden situations where they could be themselves. Modern politics has let them achieve this, to be free to be themselves, and that is a good thing.

2) People who were jealous of how women have it easier socially. In the past, discrimination deterred them from trying this path. Now they can. They make shit women, because they're really just men who crave female privilege, and now that male privilege has been somewhat erased, it's been tactically beneficial to try to claim female privilege.

3) Absolute deviant fucks who don't really care what gender they are, but want to claim victim points to distract from their other issues. For them, it's not that they want to be male or female, they want to be *TRANS*. Their gender identity is less important than their TRANS identity. These are the most insufferable troon fuckers.

Chris is a mixture of cases 2 and 3. He is most definitely not case 1.

EDIT: The FtM equivalent of this is more or less the same, except in case 2 they wanted male privilege. This has been eroded in recent years, so it's not as effective. Sometimes women would assume male identities to enter in to male-only professions, for instance. They don't have to do that anymore, so case 2 doesn't really exist for FtM anymore.
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What? Chris isn't TRUTRANS enough for you?
 
Chazzed Up said:
Like I said, I haven't had much experience with trans people irl as far as people who I knew were trans. It's harder for them to project that status in person unless they have some obvious indicator, which is either not passing convincingly or otherwise some kind of shirt/pin/merchandise type stuff of the flag, or just outright stating it.

The ones I've run into consistently online though have always seemed to fall into another category of those who fetishize the opposite sex, usually in relation to anime/cartoons/etc. Like several of the "muh yaoi" type people I saw running around fandom 10+ years ago are now trans men and for some totally incidental reason, adopted characteristics of their husbandos, just like MtF often do with their anime waifus. It does exist for both sexes, not just MtF, though I think there is a higher volume going from male to female for reason #2.

I suppose it's possible those people always were trans at heart and just gravitated toward characters they felt reflected their "ideal", but I have a feeling the topic is probably more just about blatant self-hatred at heart, or maybe internalized hatred of their gender. For men this could be people like Chris who felt like they weren't masculine or didn't attract the attention of women (the classic "I became my waifu" thing), maybe for women they desire the power/status men can have. Makes me think of Randy Stair again, as far as I know he never voiced or showed any indications of being trans until he became fixated on his waifu, which seemed to be an extension of him wanting to escape a life he didn't enjoy, maybe he thought being a girl would be a better life. I don't think it's always strictly about gender but also about the lifestyle that one perceives the opposite gender can enjoy (usually not very rooted in reality either). Randy and Chris also both were heterosexual men before becoming trans, so it wasn't about escaping being gay.
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I'd classify what you're talking about as a special version of case #3, autogyno/androphiles using trans identity as validation. In the past they'd just be crossdressers/transvestites a la Ed Wood. Crossdressing was always weird but nowhere near as socially unacceptable as transgenderism. Now, though, trans is trendy, so if they're going to give their own tulpa physical form for sexual reasons, they might as well claim trans identity in defense of that. This is DEFINITELY part of Chris' motivation. He couldn't get a girl to satisfy his desires, so he roleplays the girl.

I believe old Chris when he said he was straight. Tomgirl Chris was just cismale Chris overlaying a feminine form that *he* could control. Troon Chris was when he realized he could add trans identity to that form to get victim points and maybe somehow convince lesbians to fuck him. While it obviously didn't do shit for getting Chris sex, his Christine persona did at least get him some social validation and gave him some spaces to interact with other people.

Freya said:
What? Chris isn't TRUTRANS enough for you?
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Insofar as I don't find his motivations True and Honest (tm), yes, I don't find him trans any more than I find someone doing GfP porn to be gay. Moreover, stanning for TransChris actively hurts trans people in general IMHO.

Generally, in day to day life, Chris behaves like a MANchild in every way. Every single appeal to femininity he makes is either for sexual gratification, or to try to garner sympathy.
 
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Pointless Sperg said:
I'd classify what you're talking about as a special version of case #3, autogyno/androphiles using trans identity as validation. In the past they'd just be crossdressers/transvestites a la Ed Wood. Crossdressing was always weird but nowhere near as socially unacceptable as transgenderism. Now, though, trans is trendy, so if they're going to give their own tulpa physical form for sexual reasons, they might as well claim trans identity in defense of that. This is DEFINITELY part of Chris' motivation. He couldn't get a girl to satisfy his desires, so he roleplays the girl.

I believe old Chris when he said he was straight. Tomgirl Chris was just cismale Chris overlaying a feminine form that *he* could control. Troon Chris was when he realized he could add trans identity to that form to get victim points and maybe somehow convince lesbians to fuck him. While it obviously didn't do shit for getting Chris sex, his Christine persona did at least get him some social validation and gave him some spaces to interact with other people.
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Yeah, I didn't put it into the third category since I wouldn't necessarily call it degenerate since... well, because I don't think sexual desire is the main motivator behind it. But I think it probably fits under the same umbrella. I mostly have avoided interacting too hard with that community because it is impossible to please them or identify what they want. I don't think even they know the answer to that question. Like I said if it was me personally I'd probably just try to live as the opposite sex if that was what I wanted to do, and just disclose it to necessary parties like dating partners or whatever. I don't quite get the people who make "being trans" a huge part of their identity and are very vocal about identifying as such, but also refuse the idea that there are differences between them and those who are biologically a given gender. People like Chris are easiest to figure out since he very blatantly had a motive to become female, that being like you said he could cut out the middleman of needing a woman to act out his desires and just do so himself. He sure did take to use the trans status as a shield quickly though, just as he always did with autism.

Interestingly enough I think for some of this certain kind of trans person, it is more like being a kin than about gender. You used the term tulpa which I think is in the same vein as what I'm thinking of. Like with Randy he wanted to be a specific cartoon character he imagined himself as, Chris similarly has a persona. I think it's some kind of cross-section between self-hatred, isolation/loneliness (with only anime/vidya for company), and then trying to solve those two problems by becoming the object of one's desire.
 
Chazzed Up said:
Interestingly enough I think for some of this certain kind of trans person, it is more like being a kin than about gender. You used the term tulpa which I think is in the same vein as what I'm thinking of. Like with Randy he wanted to be a specific cartoon character he imagined himself as, Chris similarly has a persona. I think it's some kind of cross-section between self-hatred, isolation/loneliness (with only anime/vidya for company), and then trying to solve those two problems by becoming the object of one's desire.
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Exactly. It's autogynophilia where you create a girl for yourself and act out that role to make yourself feel more complete. It's incredibly sad but lonely people can resort to extremes to achieve this. In the past you didn't have to actually change your identity to perform this though. You just put on womens' clothes and acted it out. Now though, if you identify as trans, you get a social justification for your behavior and a support base. Except it's not real, because you're still yourself, you've just created a partner for yourself as an overlay to your identity in a struggle to obtain completeness.

We live in a fractured and disconnected society with many, many lonely virginal men, and many temporarily used then discarded women. Chris is an extreme example of this, but if you put aside his crazy antics and disgusting behavior, it's really not that weird a situation.
 
Pointless Sperg said:
Exactly. It's autogynophilia where you create a girl for yourself and act out that role to make yourself feel more complete. It's incredibly sad but lonely people can resort to extremes to achieve this. In the past you didn't have to actually change your identity to perform this though. You just put on womens' clothes and acted it out. Now though, if you identify as trans, you get a social justification for your behavior and a support base. Except it's not real, because you're still yourself, you've just created a partner for yourself as an overlay to your identity in a struggle to obtain completeness.

We live in a fractured and disconnected society with many, many lonely virginal men, and many temporarily used then discarded women. Chris is an extreme example of this, but if you put aside his crazy antics and disgusting behavior, it's really not that weird a situation.
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Autism definitely plays a big role too. Being unattractive isn't necessarily the end of the world for a guy, I see rough looking dudes with similar women fairly often, so being likeable can bridge some of that gap. But being socially awkward and a shut-in is a lot harder to combat, especially if said autists are idolizing extremely perfect looking 2d girls. This happens with nerdy/autistic women as well, not just men.

Again, with Randy, he was perfectly clear that no real woman was going to fill the place of his waifu. I have seen quite a bit of this online. Sure the pickings irl might not be great for everyone but descending into delusion is just a cope for not either addressing one's problems or otherwise finding a way to feel some satisfaction in life. And if you can't get a woman (or man) before you transition it is not likely that changing gender will fix that. You need to make other changes. Chris is the prime example of that, he changed absolutely nothing about what made him unlikeable to others and his situation remained much the same after trooning out.
 
No Batty Boys in Jamaica said:
I think he has some kind of hormonal issue that causes him to be a very hard gainer anyways. Even before the mtf hormones he seemed to have low muscle mass that couldn't be explained by his lifestyle alone. His thighs especially creeped me out because I've seen more toned thighs on quadriplegics. You can really see it in For Julie's Eyes Only and how his legs are about as thick as the blow up doll's legs.
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most of it is his very poor life style over 4 decades of shitty food, no exercise what so ever, lack of healthy dynamic physical and mental stimulation has been proven to cause health issues and issues with overall development

RodgerDodger said:
He fucked his mother. Most long term group homes for developmentally disabled adults wont touch him. Halfway Houses for sex offenders are few and far between, and have a limited duration of stay. He's going to end up a Morlock living under a bridge or in sewer tunnels. Haunting the neighborhood around 14 bc like Pennywise the clown.
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actually they probably would take him; there are many deviant mentally ill, and disabled adults living in group homes, and it is made very well known in their files that they are sexually inappropriate, or have a history of stalking, attacking, or otherwise being violent, etc. Many group homes do in fact have folks like chris and worse because they cannot function in an apartment independently or even semi-independently due to their behavior. i know; i worked for almost 20 years in adult social services. and we had many clients who were duel DX'd or co-occurring conditions usually a winning mix of developmental or learning disabilities with severe mental health and behavior issues.
 
Chazzed Up said:
Chris is the prime example of that, he changed absolutely nothing about what made him unlikeable to others and his situation remained much the same after trooning out.
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It's easy to act like a jackass on camera to get china than simply growing up.
Shanndog said:
actually they probably would take him; there are many deviant mentally ill, and disabled adults living in group homes, and it is made very well known in their files that they are sexually inappropriate, or have a history of stalking, attacking, or otherwise being violent, etc. Many group homes do in fact have folks like chris and worse because they cannot function in an apartment independently or even semi-independently due to their behavior. i know; i worked for almost 20 years in adult social services. and we had many clients who were duel DX'd or co-occurring conditions usually a winning mix of developmental or learning disabilities with severe mental health and behavior issues.
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Like the homeless, no one would want them as neighbors despite believing that everyone deserves a second chance.

My solution in this case is to transfer them to a ghost town that has decent access to electricity, water and sewage.
 
Josterman said:
He is going to have a miserable life post prison
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his whole life since elm. school has been miserable, hes just been too stupid to notice, he has been living a complete shit life all these years. LOL.
John Merston said:
I think the reason that Bob gets portrayed in a positive light is because his children from his first marriage grew up well-adjusted and relatively successful.
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but his other 3 kids ( 2 sons and daughter ) left asap, they moved out and pretty much cut ties early on, became successful contributing members of society. so i think its despite being from that lineage and environment they were smart enough to not let that dictate / influence their own fates; if that makes any sense.

Tikbalang said:
It's easy to act like a jackass on camera to get china than simply growing up.

Like the homeless, no one would want them as neighbors despite believing that everyone deserves a second chance.

My solution in this case is to transfer them to a ghost town that has decent access to electricity, water and sewage.
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true and understandably so; yes there are people who do deserve a chance but there are also people who in all honesty do not, its very much should be case by case situation. haha a ghost town with decent sewage and electricity, nah, thats too good for chris, plus hed just fuck it up and be too stupid and lazy to fix anything.
 
Shanndog said:
haha a ghost town with decent sewage and electricity, nah, thats too good for chris, plus hed just fuck it up and be too stupid and lazy to fix anything.
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The ideal after prison life for Chris is the Amish town. He'll have to abandon the concept of electricity because there won't be any.
 
Shanndog said:
actually they probably would take him; there are many deviant mentally ill, and disabled adults living in group homes, and it is made very well known in their files that they are sexually inappropriate, or have a history of stalking, attacking, or otherwise being violent, etc. Many group homes do in fact have folks like chris and worse because they cannot function in an apartment independently or even semi-independently due to their behavior. i know; i worked for almost 20 years in adult social services. and we had many clients who were duel DX'd or co-occurring conditions usually a winning mix of developmental or learning disabilities with severe mental health and behavior issues.
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I wouldn't bank on them letting Chris in a group home if he gets convicted of a rape charge. There's a difference between a client making an off hand remark and...a client being an actual rapist.

They also will need to fully disclose every thing about said clients with staff, and alot will just fucking leave because of Chris-Chan. Even a Fly-By-Night group home would be hard pressed to keep staff to deal with him.
 
Tikbalang said:
The ideal after prison life for Chris is the Amish town. He'll have to abandon the concept of electricity because there won't be any.
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I wouldn’t wish that on the Amish. They don’t hurt anyone.

Guardsman42 said:
I wouldn't bank on them letting Chris in a group home if he gets convicted of a rape charge. There's a difference between a client making an off hand remark and...a client being an actual rapist.

They also will need to fully disclose every thing about said clients with staff, and alot will just fucking leave because of Chris-Chan. Even a Fly-By-Night group home would be hard pressed to keep staff to deal with him.
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Reetarded rapists have to live somewhere.
 
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