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It might not be difficult to convince Chris that forced castration qualifies as "Gender Affirming Bottom Surgery". The State might give him that for free.
Life after prison - What happens if Chris is One Day released from prison
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You're gonna need a big cannon for this.
Smleman303
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Where there is a Wil (Wheaton) there is a screaming way... Don't be a dream killer.
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But again, throwing a shadow on the whole process is actually not a problem of any sort in the system - for it to be used in court like that, sure, could be but it's not commonly done. The same stuff is done all the time but to take further the alleged action can be even incest or whatever and the plea deal then for something different, like sexual misconduct or whatever. The prosecution could also say stuff like that they don't have enough proof to charge her even if they had admission from Chris but not from her, they could just not say anything citing privacy.
Not that it will ever go to an open trial like that, it'll just be plea dealed and most discussions the court as a whole has together -as a whole, out from the proceeding- is just about deciding about what will they do with the tard, not about charges(don't matter if they're not maxing them out on sentence) or if not charging barb would look "bad" even if there's no r charges or r conviction, which is an angle that lets the prosecution morally in the community leave barb uncharged if they just kinda put out a vibe that Chris probably did it as R but they don't have material to work with.
If someone started questioning about that. which is highly unlikely, since they give different charges for people caught with same crime at the same time all the time and then go on to plea deal them to completely differently charges all the time. It's not a problem for the systems image apparently that the charges and sentences don't logically mesh together because it's the status quo of how things are ran in the court system as a whole nationwide. The sentences taken out into wider context don't need to draw a coherent picture. Heck you could even still be behind bars even if they caught another dude for a murder you were sentenced for and possibly have to fight years to get out.
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If Chris could get a plea deal, then he would get one back in August or September, yet they keep him behind bars, his case has "more charges pending" and his defender tries to pull something, meaning that he doesn't have much to bargain with.
Chris gets a light sentence, gets moved somewhere else and then does similar crime - everyone involved in letting him get off easily will get shit for that. Also, don't forget that despite it being "a tard fucking his demented mother somewhere" this shit was on the news, to the point that even normies were wondering who the fuck Chris is. Fucking things up with him will bring as much of unwanted attention.
And they couldn't charge Chris if they only had one recording and the word of a tard. They have something else that points out that it happened and the level of Barb's involvement matters.
Of course, it does. If someone gets a plea deal, they reclassify crime to some lesser offense and then sentence him accordingly.
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This actually happens disturbingly often. They find evidence that someone else did the crime but the convicted person still has to spend years fighting to get out.
Not necessarily.
For run-of-the-mill cases the prosecutor and defense attorney usually have a "playbook" they can run with each other. In many instances they are on a first-name basis and will do stuff like "same deal as the Smith case" or whatever. Better defense attorneys can often get better quick deals since the prosecutor knows they can fight harder, but they've already established what works as a deal in the past so negotiation is just deciding which previous deal to fall back on.
This is not that kind of case. Incest charges not involving minors are extremely rare -- not because it doesn't happen but because it usually never gets found out. Even if the prosecutor and defense attorney have both dealt with an incest case together, it happens so rarely that they still won't have a playbook for those specific circumstances. People usually do not decide that they want to start fucking their 80 year old mother. Couple this with how unusual Chris is and the odd cast of characters involved, they really can't fall back on any past deals and instead have to negotiate from scratch. This takes time, and the better the defense attorney the more time they can take because they have more resources to drag out the issue. And remember, Chris loses nothing from this unless his time in jail exceeds the deal, and the defense attorney loses nothing stalling, while the prosecutor *does* since it ties up his office's resources. The defense asking for continuances means they think they can get a better deal with more time and research.
The only real bad news for Chris (other than shit he does to himself) is the recent Loudoun County stuff shining a bad light on troons. Chris' case doesn't involve minors, schools, strangers, or bathrooms however, so I can't predict what, if any, effect that will have on the mindset of the prosecution. My guess is that the prosecutor still just wants this to go away, and isn't too worried about being seen as "soft on trans predators". If Chris' troondom had played any real role in the circumstances of the case, it would be very different.
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Which means that they need this deal. They can't drag it forever, until prosecution says "ah, fuck it, let him go, just stop this travesty".
This is drop in the ocean considering publicity that Chris got. It doesn't matter if he is troon or not, giving someone light sentence for having sex with his demented mother is never a good look.
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I can picture Chris' attorney working His ass off and getting Chris a very good outcome. But alot of the outcome will be sealed and Chris won't be allowed to say anything about at all or Chris will go back to jail.
Then it will be maybe an hour after Chris is out when someone will have Chris on video talking about everything.
Then it will be maybe an hour after Chris is out when someone will have Chris on video talking about everything.
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When did Chris ever keept his mouth shut for more then 2 min. People want to know and they are going to manipulate him to the point he feel is thrustworthy and then starts running his mouth. Happen so many times before.
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I mean considering people like Tommie Tooter is a thing, idk.
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His attorney is already trying "my client has been trolled" shit, so I am not sure about that. The best he could do is to play it out as Chris being an even bigger tard than he is and Barb having an episode that led to her grooming him, since she thought he was Bob or something. Barb can't be sent to jail, since she is old and demented and Chris gets probation. Or not, since I am not a lawyer.
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The case against Chris is firm and the state is not going to let him go with just probation. He's already spent months in jail so it's not like it's a slap on the wrist. The only question is how hard they are willing to go vs. the effort it takes. Since Chris has a good attorney, he has a lot more leverage in threatening the state with a time-consuming, expensive, and embarrassing trial.
The question is not whether Chris is guilty or not, the question is how the state is willing to respond to that guilt. This is how the vast majority of cases are resolved. The fact that Chris is such a freak actually works somewhat in his favor. He's just fucked up enough to complicate the process, but not a big enough public enemy that the media is calling for his head.
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Not anymore. Early into this shit it could be argued that Chris is too mentally unstable to be charged, but now it's obvious that he is more than fit for that. His attorney has 0 power to drag it forever, otherwise every criminal with money would do that till he gets the lesser sentence possible. And about "good" part I've already said that - "my client has been trolled" sounds like something straight from lolsuit. Dis gonna be good.
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That's correct. In addition, a lawyer's value is time. He's not getting paid like in a proper case with Chris, and once he sees that it's not some quick virtue signal thing, he's going to want to dump as quickly as possible. People think Chris is going to get OJ Simpson like representation and while Sieg Heilberg does have a Better Call Saul type racket going on, he really stands to gain nothing for successfully fighting to get Chris off.
Not to mention, by now, he's sick and tired of listening to Chris's nonsense. We know of people and letters they've received from Chris, but we have no clue how many letters he's sent to his attorney.
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We need field agents in all liquor stores around his office
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Every criminal with money *does* do that, pushing until they get the best deal they can get. A prosecutor pretty much never wants a trial, unless it's something that can be touted in the news as them "doing their job". For that, they want the worst of the worst so the trial is a uncomplicated as possible. The other trials that happen are the ones where a moron won't take a deal, or ones that the public forces to happen like Rittenhouse.
A prosecutor's real job is very different from the job we see them doing in the media.
Heilberg is getting the relatively-low state-mandated hourly rate, but he can bill the time during slack time from his other cases, without cheapening his brand. It's a pittance compared to his normal fees, but it's something. Spitballing, I think the current rate is $90/hr with a cap of $5000 but do not quote me on that. He's probably working Chris into gaps in his schedule. He can then either keep that money, or donate it to charity and use it as a tax writeoff.
Moreover he does want to get the best deal he can for Chris as that helps his brand. Even though Chris is not a full-price client, it still looks bad if you do a bad job. e.g. let's say a restaurant sells a bunch of food to the local soup kitchen at a steep discount. It still makes the restaurant look bad if the food is spoiled, even though it's not being served to regular customers.
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No he won't
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Yeah like that is what has made Chris the man thing he is today, he won't learn the consequences of his actions unless he is genuinely punished for them.
If the plea is an incredibly light sentence (which at this point if they don't have enough shit to pin on Chris being a high possibility) then the state has ultimately failed him and Chris would put the blame on other people like the usual trolls and da haters, not actually thinking he did anything wrong and was ultimately framed by the non-merge belivers, or whatever new derogatory name Chris wants to give these people to fuel his superiority complex.
Edit: He'd label them as heretics since he has constantly referred to himself as the great merciful lord for months now.
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It’s probably not possible for Chris to recognize he’s wrong, let alone admit it to himself, let alone admit it to others. His ability to justify his actions is infinite.
Is it even possible to (ethically) punish him?
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Out of all the obscene stupid shit he's done, his biggest regret is farting in a cake.
The ethical thing to do is to contain him in a place where he can be managed. It probably wouldn't take much, prison would be overkill. Just don't let him have a car. While he could probably figure out public transit, the transit out there is so bad that he'd probably only use it for short trips as a great journey back to 14BC would be too much for him.