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Why do trans people get under the umbrella of LGBQA+? Like, I don't care what anyone is anyways, but they seem like different issues. At least from the outside.
To me, a "straight" male shitlord, the sexualities are about who you do or do not want to love/root/marry/etc, while trans and the like seems to be about what you identify as and having others respect that. And while there is overlap, the two seem like different issues to me, one of freedom to love who you love, and the other more about being treated as what you say you are.
Is this just re.tard speak, or does anyone have an explanation as to why the Ts and the LGB+s got merged?
 
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CivilianOfTheFandomWars said:
Is this just re.tard speak, or does anyone have an explanation as to why the Ts and the LGB+s got merged?
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I think it was because there was nowhere else to put them. Guess it was close enough so they got grouped in with us homos. But yes, trans is a completely different issue than sexual orientation.
 
Mesh Gear Fox said:
I think it was because there was nowhere else to put them. Guess it was close enough so they got grouped in with us homos. But yes, trans is a completely different issue than sexual orientation.
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Maybe that's why there seems to be an uptick of trans-exclusionary LGBs nowadays. Some see the wierdo Ts, and don't want to have all their hard work leading to them being accepted getting ruined because of some Yanivs running around.
I think the TERF-Lesbian crowd is the most prominent one right now, but I see some gay dudes here and there saying the same stuff just with some words switched around. "I don't want a 'female penis'." "I don't want a 'male vagina'."
It may also just be the circles I hang with, but it looks like more LGBs are slowly sliding righter than they used to, and it's leading to more infighting. On Reddit, the best place to find normies, there's stuff like 'Gays for Trump is like Jews for Hitler' and then 'Trump actually secured some sizable donations for HIV preventing medication' in response, along with an uptick in the amount of them buying guns and criticizing the Middle East's "treatment" of gays.
So, I predict a decent sized split or shitstorm in 2020 for the LGBT+ communities. It'll be interesting to watch, at the very least.
 
I identify as awoosexual.
I'm not actually sure what it is
 
Mesh Gear Fox said:
I think it was because there was nowhere else to put them. Guess it was close enough so they got grouped in with us homos. But yes, trans is a completely different issue than sexual orientation.
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Grouped in then kind of took over to be honest.

I have no problem with trannies living their own lives and minding their own business.. but as we know, a lot of them take things to the extreme and make the rest of the community look insane.
 
RavenCrow said:
Grouped in then kind of took over to be honest.

I have no problem with trannies living their own lives and minding their own business.. but as we know, a lot of them take things to the extreme and make the rest of the community look insane.
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They took over, and we have all this forced acceptance shit from the twitterati, but at the end of the day you can't really force people to accept anything, which is why there's a lot more tranny-excluding LBG groups. It's also why the outrageous flaming homos that make everyone else look bad are rejected by mainstream society, where as "normal" gays can have jobs and friends outside the scene and not get bashed.

Trannies are absolutely nothing to do with LGB, even if you don't think they have a mental illness. They supposedly have a different gender identity to their genitals, but that's got nothing to do with who you want to have sex with. Then, when you compound that with the frankly insane behaviour most of then exhibit, it's no wonder that LGB is trying to chop the T off faster than the T want to chop their dick (or tits) off.

I've seen a tranny at one of the very few gay bars in town here, and he sat on his own the entire time, and everyone just subconciously gave him a really wide berth, because nothing says "mentally stable, safe to approach" like a 6 foot plus hulking great man wearing women's clothes drinking jack daniels & coke through a straw.
 
CivilianOfTheFandomWars said:
Why do trans people get under the umbrella of LGBQA+? Like, I don't care what anyone is anyways, but they seem like different issues. At least from the outside.
To me, a straight male shitlord, the sexualities are about who you do or do not want to love/root/marry/etc, while trans and the like seems to be about what you identify as and having others respect that. And while there is overlap, the two seem like different issues to me, one of freedom to love who you love, and the other more about being treated as what you say you are.
Is this just re.tard speak, or does anyone have an explanation as to why the Ts and the LGB+s got merged?
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trans and gays were helping each other out for ages which is why, both were marginalized groups for ages
 
polonium said:
Trannies aren't homos. TBH I don't know why they get lumped in with the rest of us. None of the gays or lesbians I know are confused about their gender.
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Because it's hard to be a troon and not overlap in some way with the other 3 because of that weird sort of inter-sex limbo, not to mention how hormone treatments can affect people's sexuality. No matter how you identify, no matter whether you view things from an SSA or SGA perspective, the only people who really want to hook up with you are bisexuals and -flexibles, and even then not every bisexual is into every possible combination of bits and bobs. It's the same reason why the "I" is included. How can intersex people be straight? There is no opposite sex for them.

People will say gay men actually are totally into transboiis and then you look on these blogs that compile gay-trans interactions and you get reactions like "cool, I've always wanted to fuck a woman before", then you've got every "straight guy" that wants to fuck chicks with dicks loving traps and femboys which is definitely NOT gay because it looks like a girl, guys!!!

All that is to say most to all "monosexuals" who are dtf with trannies are bisexuals in denial and tumblr needs to get the fuck over it lol.
 
RavenCrow said:
Grouped in then kind of took over to be honest.

I have no problem with trannies living their own lives and minding their own business.. but as we know, a lot of them take things to the extreme and make the rest of the community look insane.
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I dont know if its that theyve taken over...just that they're the only ones who still have a "fight" left. Gays have pretty much won all their battles so theyve no reason to be loud and proud anymore
 
Some Troons don't even mention cis people. Their community is made up of insane autistics and exceptional individuals who constantly do. I think people who actually belong in the LGBT crowd are a minority at this point. Many don't pass either.
Mine don't complain about the cis. Never expected to be with a troon. It's one o' those pretty sissy ones though, and i wonder if it wasn't would i be sticking it out? probably not. I'm an asshole.

If i could TMI react this i would.
 
Cat Flatulence said:
Some Troons don't even mention cis people. Their community is made up of insane autistics and exceptional individuals who constantly do. I think people who actually belong in the LGBT crowd are a minority at this point. Many don't pass either.
Mine don't complain about the cis. Never expected to be with a troon. It's one o' those pretty sissy ones though, and i wonder if it wasn't would i be sticking it out? probably not. I'm an asshole.

If i could TMI react this i would.
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A lot of the "LGBT" spaces have been taken over by troons and genderhipsters who see being queer as some kind of political performance art, moral "get out of jail free" card, or some similar way to self-aggrandize. If someone is using their gender or sexuality as leverage to shame someone else into acceding to their demands, it's a safe bet they fall into this category.

Like every other self-absorbed IdPol autist, they care only about themselves and are not at all shy about their gains coming at the expense of others, including other gay or non-white people.
 
NoFeline said:
Because it's hard to be a troon and not overlap in some way with the other 3 because of that weird sort of inter-sex limbo, not to mention how hormone treatments can affect people's sexuality. No matter how you identify, no matter whether you view things from an SSA or SGA perspective, the only people who really want to hook up with you are bisexuals and -flexibles, and even then not every bisexual is into every possible combination of bits and bobs. It's the same reason why the "I" is included. How can intersex people be straight? There is no opposite sex for them.

People will say gay men actually are totally into transboiis and then you look on these blogs that compile gay-trans interactions and you get reactions like "cool, I've always wanted to fuck a woman before", then you've got every "straight guy" that wants to fuck chicks with dicks loving traps and femboys which is definitely NOT gay because it looks like a girl, guys!!!

All that is to say most to all "monosexuals" who are dtf with trannies are bisexuals in denial and tumblr needs to get the fuck over it lol.
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Unfortunate that troons happen to be the vocal minority. Shitlords ruin it for everyone, not the first time.
 
I used to be really accepting of trans shit when I first came out of the closet. Growing up in a small rural suburb of Baton Rouge meant that the closest thing I had to 'the gay community' or like minded people who accepted me was the local troon commune around the university.

I got to not just learn, but *experience* what people in this thread are talking about. To gays, lesbians, and bi folk, you know, the average folks, the LGBT movement is like what 'black' or 'white' is to a normal person. It's a descriptor. It's a thing that identifies you, but doesn't define you. And just how there are black men's clubs/societies, just like how there's women's-only meetings and clubs, there's gay organizations and community things. To us, the LGBT community is just that- it's a community. It's not our lives, it's just a facet of them.

To the troons and nutjobs, it's not a facet. It is their life. Outside of the LGBT community, they're nothing. They're another cog in the world around them, another piece of shit out in the street. Being genderspecial or particularly troonish is their way of standing out afore the masses, and proving that they are special and deserve rights more than you.

It's the most extreme of the natural course of IdPol. Oppressed groups ally. One of them, the strongest, gains its victories and is no longer oppressed. This is where the troons say that they start 'punching down', but in reality, it is the others punching up first. The gays/lesbians/bi folks have become 'part of the problem' because they have no cause left to fight for. Why should we fight for trans rights? I can tell a friend of mine these days that I'm bi leaning towards gay, and 9/10 times, it won't affect our friendship at all. It's just something that exists. The sun shines, the grass is green, and your friend fucks dudes. But that's not enough for the genderspecials. They believe that the battle is won only when THEY become part of the norm, regardless of what it costs. And then will come the 'pluralforms' and the furries and the other degenerates who cry out in exceptional rage because now it's their turn at the table.

TLDR: IdPol eats itself, and right now the gays are being eaten.
 
littlearmalite said:
I used to be really accepting of trans shit when I first came out of the closet. Growing up in a small rural suburb of Baton Rouge meant that the closest thing I had to 'the gay community' or like minded people who accepted me was the local troon commune around the university.

I got to not just learn, but *experience* what people in this thread are talking about. To gays, lesbians, and bi folk, you know, the average folks, the LGBT movement is like what 'black' or 'white' is to a normal person. It's a descriptor. It's a thing that identifies you, but doesn't define you. And just how there are black men's clubs/societies, just like how there's women's-only meetings and clubs, there's gay organizations and community things. To us, the LGBT community is just that- it's a community. It's not our lives, it's just a facet of them.

To the troons and nutjobs, it's not a facet. It is their life. Outside of the LGBT community, they're nothing. They're another cog in the world around them, another piece of shit out in the street. Being genderspecial or particularly troonish is their way of standing out afore the masses, and proving that they are special and deserve rights more than you.

It's the most extreme of the natural course of IdPol. Oppressed groups ally. One of them, the strongest, gains its victories and is no longer oppressed. This is where the troons say that they start 'punching down', but in reality, it is the others punching up first. The gays/lesbians/bi folks have become 'part of the problem' because they have no cause left to fight for. Why should we fight for trans rights? I can tell a friend of mine these days that I'm bi leaning towards gay, and 9/10 times, it won't affect our friendship at all. It's just something that exists. The sun shines, the grass is green, and your friend fucks dudes. But that's not enough for the genderspecials. They believe that the battle is won only when THEY become part of the norm, regardless of what it costs. And then will come the 'pluralforms' and the furries and the other degenerates who cry out in exceptional rage because now it's their turn at the table.

TLDR: IdPol eats itself, and right now the gays are being eaten.
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Maybe thats why what they "are" keeps changing. So they can keep fighting for something.
 
Whelp_Bai said:
Maybe thats why what they "are" keeps changing. So they can keep fighting for something.
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There's the nail. The troon commune just figured it out. By constantly shifting the board, you never become the one being punched. You're always the one doing the punching.
 
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