LGBTQiwis

[awoo]

I don't know where I put myself. I have never been in a relationship and I cannot really imagine myself in one. I am not ready for one and realistically no one I know of would be in one with me. The closest I've ever thought about it was a male college friend before he got a girlfriend and became busy doing other life things. He was very kind to me and slightly physically intimate (probably a misinterpretation on my end). I had a dream where he was cuddling me. It felt very warm and intimate. Anyway being in a relationship is completely foreign to me.

Now for story time no one asked for. Before the middle of highschool I was straight. Then I started exploring different fetishes and porn like a typical teenager would. I think I always liked being on the submissive side even when straight. Around that time I discovered playing with my butt while masturbating felt really good. This was independent of sexual orientation and I suggest all guys to try it. Also with a fetish for women's clothing since I was in middle school. On the internet I discovered traps and was fascinated. The idea of being cute wearing girly clothing and getting fucked by a guy was fascinating. I attribute it to autogynephilia and fetishistic cross dresssing rather than a gender dysphoria. That is I am fundamentally and unchangeably male even if I take on female roles. I suppose I am bi in that I am attracted to women physically and guys in the gay sex sense. Either case it is more exciting to me when considered from a submissive perspective.

Sorry for strange ramblings. This is the first time I have written any of this out. Sexually confused probably. Sometimes I think of myself as a freak for it but most of the time I ignore it or accept it.

 

[Mesh Gear Fox]

Sexually confused probably. Sometimes I think of myself as a freak for it but most of the time I ignore it or accept it.

Nah, you're not a freak. A lot of people go through what you're experiencing. There's nothing wrong with being attracted to both sexes. I do hope you can find someone to be with; it's the only way you'll know for sure what your sexuality is. Try both.

 

[Otis Boi]

I used to be really accepting of trans shit when I first came out of the closet. Growing up in a small rural suburb of Baton Rouge meant that the closest thing I had to 'the gay community' or like minded people who accepted me was the local troon commune around the university.

I got to not just learn, but *experience* what people in this thread are talking about. To gays, lesbians, and bi folk, you know, the average folks, the LGBT movement is like what 'black' or 'white' is to a normal person. It's a descriptor. It's a thing that identifies you, but doesn't define you. And just how there are black men's clubs/societies, just like how there's women's-only meetings and clubs, there's gay organizations and community things. To us, the LGBT community is just that- it's a community. It's not our lives, it's just a facet of them.

To the troons and nutjobs, it's not a facet. It is their life. Outside of the LGBT community, they're nothing. They're another cog in the world around them, another piece of shit out in the street. Being genderspecial or particularly troonish is their way of standing out afore the masses, and proving that they are special and deserve rights more than you.

It's the most extreme of the natural course of IdPol. Oppressed groups ally. One of them, the strongest, gains its victories and is no longer oppressed. This is where the troons say that they start 'punching down', but in reality, it is the others punching up first. The gays/lesbians/bi folks have become 'part of the problem' because they have no cause left to fight for. Why should we fight for trans rights? I can tell a friend of mine these days that I'm bi leaning towards gay, and 9/10 times, it won't affect our friendship at all. It's just something that exists. The sun shines, the grass is green, and your friend fucks dudes. But that's not enough for the genderspecials. They believe that the battle is won only when THEY become part of the norm, regardless of what it costs. And then will come the 'pluralforms' and the furries and the other degenerates who cry out in exceptional rage because now it's their turn at the table.

TLDR: IdPol eats itself, and right now the gays are being eaten.

I used to be the same way. I always had a soft spot in my heart for trannies because I knew what it was like not to really know who you where and the struggles with coming to grips you aren't like your friends and how they would never truly know the same feeling you are feeling. Then when i went to college and meet some of the trannies who inhabited the LGBTQ+ organization it slowly started to sour me on the whole transgender thing. They seemed to have based their identity on "Trans OwO" and that about it. Yea there where some gay people their who where like that but it was less intrusive. It was more the the sense of wearing a pride flag everywhere or rainbow coloring. It never devolved into long derailment talking about how oppressed trans people are and how us gays didn't understand.

I think the issue that got to me the most was it felt like more and more it was turning more and more into away for the upper middle class to feel oppressed or gain some sorta of excuses to fight opression.Its like when someone says they are queer it feels like they just want to muscle in on a movment an co-opt for their own use and i find that disgusting.

I don't know where I put myself. I have never been in a relationship and I cannot really imagine myself in one. I am not ready for one and realistically no one I know of would be in one with me. The closest I've ever thought about it was a male college friend before he got a girlfriend and became busy doing other life things. He was very kind to me and slightly physically intimate (probably a misinterpretation on my end). I had a dream where he was cuddling me. It felt very warm and intimate. Anyway being in a relationship is completely foreign to me.

Seems like you are reading to much into things. You might be bisexual with a slant towards guys. I know a guy has a preference similar to yours. He much subbing for guys and much rather be romantically involved with them but he says he still like to sleep with a women from time to time. Nothing really wrong with that. As weird as it sounds on this site no one gives a real shit what your into as long as you keep it to your self. Just gotta enjoy life while you can and as long as your not self destructive and hurting others who gives just do you my dude. Also I think you will figure it out once your intimate with some one and i just don't mean fucking. I think once you can just cuddle somone on the couch you will know what your sexuality is.

 

[kūhaku]

I used to be the same way. I always had a soft spot in my heart for trannies because I knew what it was like not to really know who you where and the struggles with coming to grips you aren't like your friends and how they would never truly know the same feeling you are feeling. Then when i went to college and meet some of the trannies who inhabited the LGBTQ+ organization it slowly started to sour me on the whole transgender thing. They seemed to have based their identity on "Trans OwO" and that about it. Yea there where some gay people their who where like that but it was less intrusive. It was more the the sense of wearing a pride flag everywhere or rainbow coloring. It never devolved into long derailment talking about how oppressed trans people are and how us gays didn't understand.

That's why a lot of trans people probably don't even/want to associate with LGBTQwhatever, I sure as hell don't. Basing your entire personality off of being trans makes you a truly exceptional individual, which is probably why so many lolcows are trans. Ideally if someone is trans you wouldn't even know unless they told you privately, and not tell you by wearing a shirt with some furry tier shit mixed with faggy trans memes.

Speaking of which, if anyone here would like to have a good chuckle over the minority of trans culture that is their meme culture, go head to the subreddit /r/traa. It's fucking hilarious how shit that place is, not to mention they are one of those censoring subs that loves communism and bans you for talking about anything else (I have managed to get one of their mods to tell me "fuck you" just because I dissed them being commies).

Seriously pisses me the fuck off seeing such shitty humans being the representatives for trans people. It's the same gripe that LGB's have with all the fags who are overly sexual at pride parades and such. Just here to say that I understand you getting annoyed with a lot of trans people for being tards but there's probably more trans people than you realize around you and those people don't wave that shit in your face.

 

[The Real SVP]

I am straight as an arrow. Boys don't count if they are in a pretty dress and makeup, right?

 

[Where Do You Find Them?]

LGBTQ+ organization

I have never seen an organization like this that I've been happy with. They always seem to be inhabited by the flag waving, sexuality-is-the-only-facet-of-my-identity, let's-go-spray-milk-on-children-from-a-giant-cock-at-pride sort. Back when I was in college I'd rationalize it with "Well, the fraternities are full of dude-bros who seem to base their whole identity around how straight they are so I guess it makes sense and they'll all grow out of it," and even with adult groups it makes sense that these sorts of people are the ones who gravitate to those organizations but they also seem to chase away anyone who won't toe their line.

how oppressed trans people are and how us gays didn't understand.

This always pissed me off. Nowadays if someone tells me "You couldn't possibly understand," I just go "Ok, goodbye then." If somebody wants my help but not my empathy they can get fucked. At that point I have nothing left to give them but obedience and, if someone is actually in serious emotional difficulty, often doing what they say can be the worst thing. I'm better off leaving and hoping they realize that they're just pushing people away with these ideas.

I think a lot of it comes down to this divisive identity politics, where your fundamental nature as a being is a collection of a few arbitrary classes and any experience or understanding across these groups is just totally impossible. Fuck that, it's complete bullshit, first and foremost we're all human. My straight friends may not have had exactly the same problems that I did but they could still understand them, especially if I took the time to explain, and they could still show support and empathy. They could still relate them to their own experiences and thank god for it. They helped me no end.

when someone says they are queer it feels like they just want to muscle in on a movment an co-opt for their own use and i find that disgusting.

I have never met a "queer" person of whom I didn't think this was true. Sometimes people use it as an umbrella term but if they can't be more specific than that I'm very suspicious. It is sometimes used for people like our awoosexual friend who know they're somewhere under the umbrella but aren't quite sure where yet as well but far too often I see straight people who adopt it for social gain. Avital Ronell jumps to mind as a famous example.

It's the same gripe that LGB's have with all the fags who are overly sexual at pride parades and such.

Yep, pisses me off to no end. Like who the fuck nominated these absolute faggots to speak for us? Their only credentials were being so insufferable, often being directly aggressive towards us for daring to hold a contrary opinion, that we fucked off.

I am straight as an arrow. Boys don't count if they are in a pretty dress and makeup, right?

u gay fagit lmao. Just own it. The only sensible answer to are traps gay is who the fuck cares?

 

[The Real SVP]

Sexually confused probably.

Let me give you some fatherly power leveling: I don't know anything about wearing frilly dresses, but... My grandfather had a "very close" relationship with a fellow soldier during WW2, and my father had a hippie phase during which he would neither distinguish nor discriminate. I know this because, as a teenager, I also cuddled and made out with boys and men. Not quite with the same drive and desires as with girls, but I enjoyed it just the same.
My grandfather and my father spent their lives happy, married, and fathering many children. I ended up as a philanderer who never touched a dick* and slept with more women than I care to remember.

u gay fagit lmao. Just own it.

*: I did not do any gay stuff, as an adult, until my thirties. And that was less out of desire (Not saying I did not want or enjoy it, though.) and more because I cared about those guys (at least in the moment) and wanted to make them happy. All my male lovers were young men and either full blown trannies, or into gender play. And, coming back to the "fatherly", most of them left me with the feeling they desired some love and warmth from an older man just as much as they needed a good dicking.

 

[awoo]

Let me give you some fatherly power leveling: I don't know anything about wearing frilly dresses, but... My grandfather had a "very close" relationship with a fellow soldier during WW2, and my father had a hippie phase during which he would neither distinguish nor discriminate. I know this because, as a teenager, I also cuddled and made out with boys and men. Not quite with the same drive and desires as with girls, but I enjoyed it just the same.
My grandfather and my father spent their lives happy, married, and fathering many children. I ended up as a philanderer who never touched a dick* and slept with more women than I care to remember.


*: I did not do any gay stuff, as an adult, until my thirties. And that was less out of desire (Not saying I did not want or enjoy it, though.) and more because I cared about those guys (at least in the moment) and wanted to make them happy. All my male lovers were young men and either full blown trannies, or into gender play. And, coming back to the "fatherly", most of them left me with the feeling they desired some love and warmth from an older man just as much as they needed a good dicking.

so you have generations of homo in you
when can we hookup

 

[Mister Dodo]

I am straight as an arrow. Boys don't count if they are in a pretty dress and makeup, right?

I am straight as Chris Chan’s dick

Nah, you're not a freak. A lot of people go through what you're experiencing. There's nothing wrong with being attracted to both sexes. I do hope you can find someone to be with; it's the only way you'll know for sure what your sexuality is. Try both.

I never like to think of sexuality as black in white, and based on gender. Non-heterosexuality has existed in many different forms and many cultures throughout history, and I like to think that it’s just mysterious and personal. I like who I like, that’s it.

 

[awoo]

 

[Strange Rope Hero]

Yo, isn't it hilarious how easy it is to hook up on Grindr.

I haven't done this shit in a few years, but I could start a conversation with a random black dude by spamming him with the N-word and race and crime statistics.
And be taking his dick up my ass like 2 hours later.

They're so thirsty for white guys.
I'm just glad I stopped before I got AIDS.

 

[awoo]

And be taking his dick up my ass like 2 hours later.

what does it feel like

asking for a friend

 

[Strange Rope Hero]

what does it feel like

asking for a friend

It hurts for 30 seconds, feels good for a few minutes, then you're just waiting for the dude to finish.
That's my experience anyway.

And yes it get's very awkward. Assholes have shit in them, and it gets messy.
Honestly it's gross, I wouldn't recommend it.
It's not cutesy like anime or whatever.
It's flesh and hair and sweat and shit and dicks that smell slightly of urine.

 

[awoo]

you need to be cleaner
stop ruining my trap anime fantasies

 

[Where Do You Find Them?]

Clean your ass jesus. If I hook up with someone and I put my fingers in and they come out dirty then I'm gonna go wash my hand and just get a blowjob and that's happened like twice in my life. Keep going until the water's clean.

 

[Strange Rope Hero]

Clean your ass jesus. If I hook up with someone and I put my fingers in and they come out dirty then I'm gonna go wash my hand and just get a blowjob and that's happened like twice in my life. Keep going until the water's clean.

Of course I showered and cleaned beforehand, I'm extremely worried about other people's perception of me (irl anyway)
It wasn't always an issue, that only happened once out of like the 6 times i bottomed. The dude just wanted to lay a towel down.

It seemed like I cared more about cleanliness than the guys I topped.

stop ruining my trap anime fantasies

I got into gay shit just ike you, bro. Yaoi is a fantasy, traps don't exist.
If you're an adult, try Grindr.
You'll see what I mean.

 

[awoo]

well when I say traps I don't actually mean guys who look exactly like girls, just femboys who are fem enough
they do exist I have seen some good crossplaying with my own eyes
also Grindr is for normies

too bad I'm far away from being fem looking I would need to work out a lot

 

[vertexwindi]

What the flying fuck happened to this thread holy fuck.

 

[kūhaku]

What the flying fuck happened to this thread holy fuck.

In the paraphrased words of Bon Jovi, "they give love a bad name."

it's always the fucking weebs

 

[Eclair's Shota Paradise]

me and my bf are transfags that look like lesbians. neither of us pay that much attention to LGBT communities n shit, cuz a lot of them are whiny as fuck and have clearly never faced any real issues in their life