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California Newt said:
Do you mean attraction to men, or lack of attraction to women? I don't know what causes the latter (maybe it's trauma in some people and a hormonal problem in others—I don't know), but for the former I don't think it's actually all that hard for most people to wrap their heads around.
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I kind of always thought the former necessitated the latter. The "bisexual" perspective is really interesting -- they seem like mutually incompatible forms of attraction.

MF-690T said:
I've "reformed" myself to a great degree, obviously not entirely though.
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Reformed in what sense?
 
All I really know about bisexuals is they are fucking despised by everyone. By fags, dykes, other bifags, and straight people as well. Never understood people despising them, my ex was bisexual and I really loved him.
 
Doktor Grimm said:
Reformed in what sense?
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Rejected humanity and became a tractor.

Made In Lovely Kin said:
All I really know about bisexuals is they are fucking despised by everyone. By fags, dykes, other bifags, and straight people as well. Never understood people despising them, my ex was bisexual and I really loved him.
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Straight people see them as gay. Gay people see them as straight. Both often see them as untrustworthy or liable to cheat.
 
stonky said:
Straight people see them as gay. Gay people see them as straight. Both often see them as untrustworthy or liable to cheat.
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Came back to visit this thread and I feel the need to clarify: it’s not entirely true that a bi person is more likely to cheat. Just how people see them.

Raging Capybara said:
Still a kissless virgin.
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Go outside, it gets better :)
 
I don't remember what specific account it was, since I follow a lot of non-libtard gay people on Twitter.
There was a gay man who made a post saying that he honestly doesn't care if gay marriage gets overturned, so long as children are safe.
And I have to agree with him. I genuinely do not care if gay marriage gets overturned, if the alternative is enabling a party that wants to normalize pedophilia and mutilating the bodies of children. My girlfriend even feels the same way, because it's not like we're going to stop being together, even if we don't have a legally-recognized marriage.

Though I do think liberals are fear mongering about gay marriage being overturned. I don't know how realistic it is for that to actually happen. I feel like most normies are okay with monogamous gay people that don't want to groom children, and are just against all the polyamorous/transgender/etc bullshit. My girlfriend's parents are both Republicans and very supportive of our relationship.
 
Sandshrew said:
And I have to agree with him. I genuinely do not care if gay marriage gets overturned, if the alternative is enabling a party that wants to normalize pedophilia and mutilating the bodies of children.
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What the fuck does that have to do with gay marriage?

If you stop that, how is that going to prevent criminals from doing that?
 
We Are The Witches said:
What the fuck does that have to do with gay marriage?

If you stop that, how is that going to prevent criminals from doing that?
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America has two major political parties that are the only ones that win elections.
The Democratic party is very pro-tranny and even pro-"trans kids".
This means they are okay with children permanently altering and mutilating their bodies.
"Trans kids" also tend to be groomed into transitioning online via platforms like Discord.
I support the Republican party banning childhood transitioning.
I also support them putting down limits on transitioning in adulthood too. Though right now really the only limits happening on adult transitions are that insurance companies won't be covering the costs of them anymore, and instead they'll be self-pay procedures.
Why the fuck should my tax dollars go towards boob jobs? Transition should be treated as a cosmetic unnecessary surgery.
I didn't claim that the Republican Party can get rid of all dangers to children, but they're definitely the ones that care more about protecting children, compared to the Democratic Party.

Some Republicans are pretty staunch Evangelical Christians that want gay marriage to be overturned next.
I don't know how realistic that is. But either way, I don't care that much if that's the tradeoff for protecting children.
 
Sandshrew said:
America has two major political parties that are the only ones that win elections.
The Democratic party is very pro-tranny and even pro-"trans kids".
This means they are okay with children permanently altering and mutilating their bodies.
"Trans kids" also tend to be groomed into transitioning online via platforms like Discord.
I support the Republican party banning childhood transitioning.
I also support them putting down limits on transitioning in adulthood too.
Why the fuck should my tax dollars go towards boob jobs? Transition should be treated as a cosmetic unnecessary surgery.
I didn't claim that the Republican Party can get rid of all dangers to children, but they're definitely the ones that care more about protecting children, compared to the Democratic Party.

Some Republicans are pretty staunch Evangelical Christians that want gay marriage to be overturned next.
I don't know how realistic that is. But either way, I don't care that much if that's the tradeoff for protecting children.
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And this has nothing to do with gay marriage, or how preventing gays from marrying would solve any of these issues.

You're making no sense or I'm not understanding something. I feel like one of us is drunk, but I don't drink alcohol.
 
We Are The Witches said:
And this has nothing to do with gay marriage, or how preventing gays from marrying would solve any of these issues.

You're making no sense or I'm not understanding something. I feel like one of us is drunk, but I don't drink alcohol.
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Ok so it seems like you're misinterpreting what I'm saying.
I am not anti-gay marriage. I am a lesbian who intends to marry my girlfriend one day.
I don't consider myself a Republican or Democrat either, but if I had to choose, I support Republicans over Democrats.
And if the tradeoff for supporting Republicans is the possibility of gay marriage being overturned BUT KIDS REMAIN UNMUTILATED AND NOT GROOMED BY LGBTQIABCDEFGH+ BULLSHIT, then I am okay with that. That is my point. I don't know what the point you're trying to make is.
The alternative is supporting Democrats, which want to protect gay marriage, but are okay with all the "trans kid" bullshit, which I am against.
 
Sandshrew said:
Ok so it seems like you're misinterpreting what I'm saying.
I am not anti-gay marriage. I am a lesbian who intends to marry my girlfriend one day.
I don't consider myself a Republican or Democrat either, but if I had to choose, I support Republicans over Democrats.
And if the tradeoff for supporting Republicans is the possibility of gay marriage being overturned BUT KIDS REMAIN UNMUTILATED AND NOT GROOMED BY LGBTQIABCDEFGH+ BULLSHIT, then I am okay with that. That is my point. I don't know what the point you're trying to make is.
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Ok, so it's a "lesser of two evils" bullshit.

Poor choice of words to make your point. Try to fight for what you believe is just instead.
 
We Are The Witches said:
Ok, so it's a "lesser of two evils" bullshit.

Poor choice of words to make your point. Try to fight for what you believe is just instead.
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It's not really bullshit. What do you propose as an alternative? Not voting for anyone at all unless they align perfectly with every single value that I have? That seems unlikely to ever occur. Obviously, I would love for American politics to be better and have more than just two parties, but we have just two parties right now. I would prefer if gay marriage stays obviously, but I'm not going to be that upset if it doesn't, if that means protecting children. Though that's not the only reason I prefer the Republican party, there's others as well, but this is the faggot thread so I was talking about the faggot issues specifically. I really don't understand what your point is.
 
Sandshrew said:
It's not really bullshit. What do you propose as an alternative? Not voting for anyone at all unless they align perfectly with every single value that I have? That seems unlikely to ever occur. Obviously, I would love for American politics to be better and have more than just two parties, but we have just two parties right now. I would prefer if gay marriage stays obviously, but I'm not going to be that upset if it doesn't, if that means protecting children. Though that's not the only reason I prefer the Republican party, there's others as well, but this is the faggot thread so I was talking about the faggot issues specifically. I really don't understand what your point is.
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My point is that it's such a fucking stupid way to view things and what policies should preveil, it's the type of attitude that allows for certain people to get screwed over (including yourself).

If there's a party that I would never vote for (like in your case, and mine if I was from the US) like the Democratic party, if the alternative would prevent gays from beign married, then I am not voting for either. And the correct thing to do in my view would be to somehow push for the values that I see as just (or try to somehow, how? That's another question), and as you say that's difficult, but there's a threshold I myself would not go beyond.

Meaning, if the Republican party wants to forbid marriage for gay people (which I don't even think is the case, some may but it would be very unwise for them to do it), then they're in the shit tier. The democ-rats are also in the shit tier, so I'm not going to say that I'm OK with someone heavily restricting basic rights (equal basic rights) just because the other is worse.

Just like I wouldn't be OK if they want another policy (like let's say forbid gays from adopting), it means I'm not OK with either. So that's why I see your "I'd be fine if they fuck my rights sideways as long as these retards are not elected" as foolish, or at least as a very poor choice of words. They'll take that gladly.
 
@We Are The Witches
I don't think that the Republican party is trying to take away gay marriage either, I think it is just Democrats fear mongering. There are a lot of LGBT Republicans. I feel like it's the very extreme right-wingers that want it overturned. But then again, Roe v. Wade got overturned, and people didn't expect that, so I can kind of understand the fear. It is maybe possible that with enough push for it, that maybe the Supreme Court justices could rule in favor of moving things back to how they were pre-2015, where each state individually decided upon if they had gay marriages, as opposed to the way things are now, where it is legal federally in all states. Even with Roe v. Wade being overturned, it didn't make abortion fully illegal everywhere, it just made it so that abortion laws were decided on a state-by-state basis.

I very much like the Logic Cabin Republican-style of things, which are gay Republicans that don't want to bring back the 1950s and don't want America to become a Christian theocracy. I feel like I have values more aligned with the Republican party as well. The reason I don't identify with either major American party is because of the fact I like politicians from both.

I think in order for there to be more than just two parties that win in the U.S., we'd kind of have to change the structure of how our government operates, and that's very hard to accomplish. For example, in terms of presidential elections, a president can lose the popular vote, yet still win through the Electoral College. But I do support the idea of overhauling the government's structure. There are states trying to make abolishment of the Electoral College a reality (aka the "National Popular Vote Interstate Compact").

Your point is clearer now. I have a social media account where I identify foremost as a Radical Second-wave Feminist, and list out what that means for me, rather than identifying as a Republican. What I care about most is the protection of women and children, above all else. So in a way, I do already advocate more for causes, than a party. I agree that I wish more people did that, since not everything has to be super polarized and partisan.
 
Sandshrew said:
I don't think that the Republican party is trying to take away gay marriage either
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The current Republican Party is going all in on Trump and Project 2025, which I recommend you look into. It’s not exactly friendly to gay people.
I think saying that somehow republicans are the lesser of two evils is quite possibly one of the more interesting takes, especially from someone in a marginalized community that stands to lose from supporting them.
If you want real change, you shouldn’t vote for one of the two big fuckers that rule everything, because at the end of the day they’re all fascist pedophiles. Vote for what you believe in, even if it’s third party.

ludwigvonmises said:
No, I am not a homosexual
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Unfortunately that’s what every faggot sissy says :roll:
 
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