Leftist Memes - Or lack thereof...

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I guess they're owning the joke...? Kinda...
 
Flaming Insignias said:
This one is completely idiotic. Jesus didn't break any laws, and he was killed due to pressure from Jewish authorities to silence his criticism of them. This is not the same as a jogger getting shot because he tried to kill officers after being caught in a crime.
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B-b-b-b-BUH MUH NON-HUWHYTEY JAY-SUS! BLACK LIVES MATTER! ACAB! HAND SOUP DON'T SHOUT!
 
The Dude said:
Communism can work on a very small scale, like only a few thousand people. But everyone involved needs to believe in the system and want to cooperate, and there can't be a system in place for a few to accumulate power over the many. But as a form of national government it is a proven failure. The governed always lose any power they may have had and end up essentially property of the state, only working to improve the lives of those in power. The early years of the LDS/Mormon settlers in Utah (called Deseret by them) was essentially an early, pure form of Communism (though co-op might be more accurate), but it was governed by the LDS Church. It worked fine, but as I said the population was small and everyone was united by strong faith and a belief in the system.
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A bit of that still exists in the church with fast offerings, the Bishop's Storehouse, and Deseret Industries. While they have nothing to do with workers owning the means of production the services are all very "from each according to his ability, to each according to his need".
 
Flaming Insignias said:
This one is completely idiotic. Jesus didn't break any laws, and he was killed due to pressure from Jewish authorities to silence his criticism of them. This is not the same as a jogger getting shot because he tried to kill officers after being caught in a crime.
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Pilate even said he did nothing wrong according to Roman law. Since he agreed to have Jesus executed to avoid angry mobs and violent riots, the situation has more in common with charges against Garrett Rolfe than some kind of Mike Brown/George Floyd incident. Oops...
 
Doctor Placebo said:
Pilate even said he did nothing wrong according to Roman law. Since he agreed to have Jesus executed to avoid angry mobs and violent riots, the situation has more in common with charges against Garrett Rolfe than some kind of Mike Brown/George Floyd incident. Oops...
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Reminder that Brown had just strong-arm robbed a store and assaulted Wilson over being told to get out of the middle of the road. The Ferguson riots were based on lies, starting before Brown had even cooled.
 
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Slap47 said:
Chomsky has been consistently good on free expression and hatred of the American empire.

His support for the Khmer Rouge was based off his hatred of Kissinger who kinda did funnel weapons to the Khmer Rouge during their starting years.
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What you say makes no fucking sense. Why would Chomsky support the people to whom Kissinger was funneling arms, if he hated Kissinger?

Also, the enemy of my enemy is not always my friend, especially if I'm some sort of idealist.

Run that one by your brain and try again.
 
AprilRains said:
What you say makes no fucking sense. Why would Chomsky support the people to whom Kissinger was funneling arms, if he hated Kissinger?

Also, the enemy of my enemy is not always my friend, especially if I'm some sort of idealist.
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Probably because Kissinger wasn't funneling arms in the open, informing everyone of his moves. Kind of like the Iran-Contra affair.

Idealists are retarded and can't put two and two together. Kind of like how progressives support Big Tech.
 
Slap47 said:
Chomsky has been consistently good on free expression and hatred of the American empire.

His support for the Khmer Rouge was based off his hatred of the American empire. Ironically enough, Kissinger was funneling weapons to the Khmer Rouge during their starting years.
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Chomsky's hatred of the American empire, ie his personal great Satan, is precisely why he can't be trusted with literally anything else. Free expression? In America where it's in his best interest to defend it, sure. In the Soviet Union or any of the myriad of dictatorships he's done apologism for? Not so much. His only consistent standard is to pump up whatever makes America look like the bad guy, and downplay whatever might make America's enemies look like maybe they're the bad guy.

This is exactly why he ran defense for the Khmer Rouge, which wasn't just an honest mistake. He dismissed the testimony of refugees coming out of the country out of hand as being biased, and didn't find the ridiculously closed off nature of the country (the Khmer Rouge never let in more than a handful of foreign press members at a time, who were taken on a guided tour to a few specific areas under constant supervision) to be suspicious at all. He would never have been so trusting and defensive of a country that was allied to America. He would have taken the exact opposite stance.

He takes similarly biased stances on many other issues in many other countries. Chomsky doesn't give a fair or nuanced take on American foreign policy by any means. He just takes the exact opposite stance of the version of history that paints the US as always being the hero, which isn't even one that really has institutional support anymore.

AprilRains said:
What you say makes no fucking sense. Why would Chomsky support the people to whom Kissinger was funneling arms, if he hated Kissinger?

Also, the enemy of my enemy is not always my friend, especially if I'm some sort of idealist.

Run that one by your brain and try again.
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He might be referring to how the US supported the Khmer Rouge as an insurgent group after its war with Vietnam and it lost control of the country. This was part of the US's game of supporting China against the Soviet Union as part of a plan to divide and conquer the communist countries. This was after Chomsky defended the regime while it was in full genocidal swing.
 
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