EU Le Gilets Jaune protests thread - Do you hear the people sing? Singing the songs of angry men?

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-46233560

One protester has died and dozens were injured as almost a quarter of a million people took to the streets of France, angry at rising fuel prices.

The female protester who died was struck after a driver surrounded by demonstrators panicked and accelerated.

The "yellow vests", so-called after the high-visibility jackets they are required to carry in their cars, blocked motorways and roundabouts.

They accuse President Emmanuel Macron of abandoning "the little people".

Mr Macron has not so far commented on the protests, some of which have seen demonstrators call for him to resign.

But he admitted earlier in the week that he had not "really managed to reconcile the French people with their leaders".

Nonetheless, he accused his political opponents of hijacking the movement in order to block his reform programme.

What has happened so far?
Some 244,000 people took part in protests across France, the interior ministry said in its latest update.

It said 106 people were injured during the day, five seriously, with 52 people arrested.

Most of the protests have been taking place without incident although several of the injuries came when drivers tried to force their way through protesters.

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Image captionA driver forces a car through a group of protesters in Donges, western France
Chantal Mazet, 63, was killed in the south-eastern Savoy region when a driver who was taking her daughter to hospital panicked at being blocked by about 50 demonstrators, who were striking the roof of her vehicle, and drove into them.

The driver has been taken into police custody in a state of shock.

In Paris protesters approaching the Élysée Palace, the president's official residence, were repelled with tear gas.

Why are drivers on the warpath?
The price of diesel, the most commonly used fuel in French cars, has risen by around 23% over the past 12 months to an average of €1.51 (£1.32; $1.71) per litre, its highest point since the early 2000s, AFP news agency reports.

World oil prices did rise before falling back again but the Macron government raised its hydrocarbon tax this year by 7.6 cents per litre on diesel and 3.9 cents on petrol, as part of a campaign for cleaner cars and fuel.

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Image captionTear gas was used to disperse protesters in Paris
The decision to impose a further increase of 6.5 cents on diesel and 2.9 cents on petrol on 1 January 2019 was seen as the final straw.

Speaking on Wednesday, the president blamed world oil prices for three-quarters of the price rise. He also said more tax on fossil fuels was needed to fund renewable energy investments.

How big is the movement?
It has broad support. Nearly three-quarters of respondents to a poll by the Elabe institute backed the Yellow Vests and 70% wanted the government to reverse the fuel tax hikes.

More than half of French people who voted for Mr Macron support the protests, Elabe's Vincent Thibault told AFP.

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Image captionPolice attend as protesters block a motorway in Antibes
"The expectations and discontent over spending power are fairly broad, it's not just something that concerns rural France or the lower classes," he said.

The BBC's Lucy Williamson in Paris says the movement has grown via social media into a broad and public criticism of Mr Macron's economic policies.

Are opposition politicians involved?
They have certainly tried to tap into it. Far-right leader Marine Le Pen, who was defeated by Mr Macron in the second round of the presidential election, has been encouraging it on Twitter.

She said: "The government shouldn't be afraid of French people who come to express their revolt and do it in a peaceful fashion."

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Laurent Wauquiez, leader of the centre-right Republicans, called on the Macron government to scrap the next planned increase in carbon tax on fossil fuels in January to offset rising vehicle fuel prices.

Mr Castaner has described Saturday's action as a "political protest with the Republicans behind it".

Olivier Faure, leader of the left-wing Socialist Party said the movement - which has no single leader and is not linked to any trade union - had been "born outside political parties".

"People want politicians to listen to them and respond. Their demand is to have purchasing power and financial justice," he said.

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Is there any room for compromise?
On Wednesday, the government announced action to help poor families pay their energy and transport bills.

Prime Minister Edouard Philippe announced that 5.6 million households would receive energy subsidies. Currently 3.6 million receive them.

A state scrappage bonus on polluting vehicles would also be doubled for France's poorest families, he said, and fuel tax credits would be brought in for people who depend on their cars for work.

Protesters have mocked the president relentlessly as "Micron" or "Macaron" (Macaroon) or simply Manu, the short form of Emmanuel, which he famously scolded a student for using.

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To be honest, I don't blame the driver at all.
 
I’m loving the fact that these protests aren’t going away.

There was points where they were de-escalating and losing steam but Macron either says or does something retarded or the police grievously injure a protester which just stokes the fires again.
 
Someone made the mistake of grabbing a flashbang again:
The Eiffel Tower got spicy today, too
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https://twitter.com/NewsCompact/status/1094265630642065408 (http://archive.vn/6wWRO)
https://twitter.com/NewsCompact/status/1094262768759390209
https://twitter.com/Gerrrty/status/1094286103958437888 (http://archive.vn/uv97L)

Some twitter threads from some of the accounts that document these protests:
https://twitter.com/NewsCompact/status/1094159215034359808
https://twitter.com/Gerrrty/status/1094182755548782592

France is a strange place:
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http://archive.vn/ZZ1co

So yeah, another weekend of lots of frogs in yellow vests in cities all over France, especially in Paris today at the Eiffel Tower and Champs Elysee/Arc. Flashbangs, tear gas, riot cops being brutal, and as usual a total media blackout on the whole thing.

Oh but there is one other thing that keeps happening at these protests:
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https://twitter.com/NewsCompact/status/1094248805137088518 (http://archive.fo/xMCXt)

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"If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stomping on a human face -- forever."
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They tagged some statue today. While it's kind of a dick move to graffiti statues, the message was rather nice:
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"In 100 years the statues will be wearing yellow vests"
https://twitter.com/alexander_durie/status/1094308270540496896 (http://archive.vn/SfPHH)

Some Frogs retain their sense of humor :story:
https://twitter.com/sotiridi/status/1094303341302202368 (http://archive.vn/TiuIo)
 
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Even a tennis racket would be an improvement. Oath of Tennis Court II - Flashbang Boogaloo.
not just an improvement, combine those with a welder glove and a helmet and you are good to go.
 
"[Riot control grenade launchers] cannot be sold to civilians without proper training and licensing"

Funny considering the cops themselves aren't using it safely. If you RTFM the first thing it probably says is "Don't point this at a person's head/Don't fire projectiles at heads."

Instead of picking up flashbangs, they shoudl probably use bats or golf clubs to send them back.
There was that one guy a week or two ago with a hockey stick doing just that; I even posted the twitter screencap of him. Shame more aren't doing it. Even a shitty plastic racket/hockey stick would do fine.

Also it's easier, in a manner of speaking, to see why France recalled their one diplomat from Italy this week. Italy's current administration is both increasingly anti-EU and gives the yellow vest movement a wholehearted thumbs up, both in France and Italy.

In addition, the yellow vests aren't informing police about their rallies going forward which I didn't know they were doing to begin with. I mean it's kind of pointless since they've held their protests on the same day every week for the past 3 months. That's been their one tactical mistake so far, but then again a lot of these protestors do have actual jobs to go to on weekdays. For now, anyway. Things get bad enough they might figure "fuck it, Saturdays aren't the only day for fighting any more."
 
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"[Riot control grenade launchers] cannot be sold to civilians without proper training and licensing"

Funny considering the cops themselves aren't using it safely. If you RTFM the first thing it probably says is "Don't point this at a person's head/Don't fire projectiles at heads."

Are they actual French Riot Police? Or are they EU Security? Who may not be as strict about who they give grenade launchers to?
 
Are they actual French Riot Police? Or are they EU Security? Who may not be as strict about who they give grenade launchers to?
From what I read on twitter from French people they aren't riot cops per se, but they are French police. They're the ones you see in plain clothes with the red or orange arm bands backing up the riot cops and, reportedly, are doing most of the grievous bodily harm during these weekly protests. That's not to say the other police units including the full-on riot cops aren't blinding people with flashballs; they are. I don't doubt there's probably some EU security force there, but it's not the army Brussels has wet dreams about.
 
Solar, wind, biomass, hydro, etc. It will be just another deed on our long list. We invented the car, all major engine typs, shot the first rocket into space, etc, you think we cant do it? the problem isnt the technologie, the problem are the greens. they hate technologie and love rapists...

Also germany has enough coal to heat everything, its just to expensive.

Natural gas isnt used for power on a big scale in germany, its mostly for heating. We are just that we have french with their massive power infrastruture but no industrie to use it next door. Russia is a very good source for energie imports, they will deliver as long as you pay, also whats wrong with beeing close with russia? Russians are good people and should be friends and not enemys. I dont care if they bomb Nazis in the Ukraine or take over small countrys in caucasus.

Do you do anything besides talk out of your ass and masturbate to the idea that Germany still matters? With 205GW of theoretical capacity, coal represents 22% and natural gas another 14%. Realistically those number are close to double since wind and solar almost never operate at capacity.
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Do you do anything besides talk out of your ass and masturbate to the idea that Germany still matters? With 205GW of theoretical capacity, coal represents 22% and natural gas another 14%. Realistically those number are close to double since wind and solar almost never operate at capacity.
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Thats installed Capacity, most Natural gas plants dont run much, they are a back up.
The charts for energie generated look very different.
Why cherry pick something to misrepresent facts when the original document is just a click away?

https://www.ise.fraunhofer.de/content/dam/ise/en/documents/News/Stromerzeugung_2018_2_en.pdf
 
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