EU Le Gilets Jaune protests thread - Do you hear the people sing? Singing the songs of angry men?

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-46233560

One protester has died and dozens were injured as almost a quarter of a million people took to the streets of France, angry at rising fuel prices.

The female protester who died was struck after a driver surrounded by demonstrators panicked and accelerated.

The "yellow vests", so-called after the high-visibility jackets they are required to carry in their cars, blocked motorways and roundabouts.

They accuse President Emmanuel Macron of abandoning "the little people".

Mr Macron has not so far commented on the protests, some of which have seen demonstrators call for him to resign.

But he admitted earlier in the week that he had not "really managed to reconcile the French people with their leaders".

Nonetheless, he accused his political opponents of hijacking the movement in order to block his reform programme.

What has happened so far?
Some 244,000 people took part in protests across France, the interior ministry said in its latest update.

It said 106 people were injured during the day, five seriously, with 52 people arrested.

Most of the protests have been taking place without incident although several of the injuries came when drivers tried to force their way through protesters.

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Image captionA driver forces a car through a group of protesters in Donges, western France
Chantal Mazet, 63, was killed in the south-eastern Savoy region when a driver who was taking her daughter to hospital panicked at being blocked by about 50 demonstrators, who were striking the roof of her vehicle, and drove into them.

The driver has been taken into police custody in a state of shock.

In Paris protesters approaching the Élysée Palace, the president's official residence, were repelled with tear gas.

Why are drivers on the warpath?
The price of diesel, the most commonly used fuel in French cars, has risen by around 23% over the past 12 months to an average of €1.51 (£1.32; $1.71) per litre, its highest point since the early 2000s, AFP news agency reports.

World oil prices did rise before falling back again but the Macron government raised its hydrocarbon tax this year by 7.6 cents per litre on diesel and 3.9 cents on petrol, as part of a campaign for cleaner cars and fuel.

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Image captionTear gas was used to disperse protesters in Paris
The decision to impose a further increase of 6.5 cents on diesel and 2.9 cents on petrol on 1 January 2019 was seen as the final straw.

Speaking on Wednesday, the president blamed world oil prices for three-quarters of the price rise. He also said more tax on fossil fuels was needed to fund renewable energy investments.

How big is the movement?
It has broad support. Nearly three-quarters of respondents to a poll by the Elabe institute backed the Yellow Vests and 70% wanted the government to reverse the fuel tax hikes.

More than half of French people who voted for Mr Macron support the protests, Elabe's Vincent Thibault told AFP.

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Image captionPolice attend as protesters block a motorway in Antibes
"The expectations and discontent over spending power are fairly broad, it's not just something that concerns rural France or the lower classes," he said.

The BBC's Lucy Williamson in Paris says the movement has grown via social media into a broad and public criticism of Mr Macron's economic policies.

Are opposition politicians involved?
They have certainly tried to tap into it. Far-right leader Marine Le Pen, who was defeated by Mr Macron in the second round of the presidential election, has been encouraging it on Twitter.

She said: "The government shouldn't be afraid of French people who come to express their revolt and do it in a peaceful fashion."

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Laurent Wauquiez, leader of the centre-right Republicans, called on the Macron government to scrap the next planned increase in carbon tax on fossil fuels in January to offset rising vehicle fuel prices.

Mr Castaner has described Saturday's action as a "political protest with the Republicans behind it".

Olivier Faure, leader of the left-wing Socialist Party said the movement - which has no single leader and is not linked to any trade union - had been "born outside political parties".

"People want politicians to listen to them and respond. Their demand is to have purchasing power and financial justice," he said.

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Is there any room for compromise?
On Wednesday, the government announced action to help poor families pay their energy and transport bills.

Prime Minister Edouard Philippe announced that 5.6 million households would receive energy subsidies. Currently 3.6 million receive them.

A state scrappage bonus on polluting vehicles would also be doubled for France's poorest families, he said, and fuel tax credits would be brought in for people who depend on their cars for work.

Protesters have mocked the president relentlessly as "Micron" or "Macaron" (Macaroon) or simply Manu, the short form of Emmanuel, which he famously scolded a student for using.

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To be honest, I don't blame the driver at all.
 
They're exhausting all the peaceful options before they consider starting the non-peaceful options. Good on them I guess.
 
Macron knows that he has all the cards though.
Everyone with power in France either unironically supports Macron, or doesn't want anything to happen that might disrupt their precious EU. Even internationally, there's no countries that can really influence France that will condemn Macron if he goes too far, simply because he's too important to the health of the EU. If anything, other regional powers will help prop him up.
 
Macron knows that he has all the cards though.
Everyone with power in France either unironically supports Macron, or doesn't want anything to happen that might disrupt their precious EU. Even internationally, there's no countries that can really influence France that will condemn Macron if he goes too far, simply because he's too important to the health of the EU. If anything, other regional powers will help prop him up.
To put it in Alex Jones speak he is one of the keystones holding GloboHomo together. If that is true then I hope the yellow jackets oust his dumb ass and usher in a wave of productive populism that reinvigorates western society, reinforcing it against the schemes of our would be lords.

If the unrest in France somehow increases freedom across the globe they will have made up for the mistakes of the most famous French Revolution.
 
While the military probably wouldn't fire on their own people, it seems that the police sure as shit would if given the chance:
French police talk about shooting Yellow Vest protesters in a leaked tape
Police in the city of Toulouse came under fire after several officers were caught on tape discussing plans to “shoot” the protesters involved in clashes.
The comments were made in the police command room, as broadcaster France 3 reported, where the officers were watching an intense standoff between police and the demonstrators unfolding on the streets of Toulouse.

While the officers aren’t seen in the video, the voices are heard saying “What a bunch of bastards!” and “The f***ers!”, when the clashes turned violent.

Then a female officer is heard saying, “But you have to shoot!” and the other male officer replying, “When I tell you to, line up two or three rounds.”

19-01-2019 : contre toute attente, plus de 10000 personnes dans les rues de Toulouse. Place du capitole , des collègues épuisés essuient les charges des manifestants. Surpris, émus et estomaqués, des policiers de la salle de commandement appellent à « tirer des bastos ». 1/2 pic.twitter.com/ZHc20HKdSl

— VIGI (@VIGI_MI) January 31, 2019
The video was recorded during the Yellow Vests protest on January 12, but was only released recently when the French police labor union Vigi posted it on Twitter. The union distanced themselves from the comments in the footage saying “the words of the policemen have exceeded their thoughts”.

Twitter users have also slammed police officers for their words.

Fatigue ou pas cela n'escuse en rien cet arguments . Ou sont les codes de déontologie ?. Beaucoup de policiers dérivent c'est inquiétant.

— Lefort Lydia (@LydiaLefort) January 31, 2019
Ces propos sont d'une gravité inouïs ça en dis long sur l'état d'esprit de certains chez les forces de l'ordre où arracher un œil ou plonger des citoyens dans le coma c'est tellement banale #c'estlavraivie

— suel (@suelsue1) February 1, 2019
Meanwhile, the Haute-Garonne prefecture released a statement where they called the protests unfolding on the police screens a “scene of rare violence,” which provoked the police officers’ “spontaneous comments.” It has opened an investigation into the “illegal capture of images and sound” in the Police Command and Information Center.

The leaked video comes in the wake of criticism of the French police’s tactics during the Yellow Vests protests, which have been rocking French cities since November. The police used water cannons, tear gas and rubber bullets against the protesters, resulting in some serious injuries.

One of the leaders of the Yellow Vests movement, Jerome Rodrigues, was left blind in one eye after being hit by a rubber-ball projectile. Officials estimate around 2000 protesters have been injured since protests began on November 17.
https://www.rt.com/news/450698-police-france-conversation-shoot-protesters/ (http://archive.vn/PSGay)

So yeah, some of those riot cops we've been seeing with G36's as of late are apparently itching to actually use them.
 
What does all of this look like at Week 40, I wonder? And at what point does this turn into a shooting war? Just like here, neither side seems willing to compromise or find a peaceful solution. Us or them, deathmatch.
 
What does all of this look like at Week 40, I wonder? And at what point does this turn into a shooting war? Just like here, neither side seems willing to compromise or find a peaceful solution. Us or them, deathmatch.
If the Australians from the discord of a YouTuber I like are any indication of the average young adult on the street then things will keep building until the pressure is so high that everything falls apart.

No criticism of the EU machine is legit, because questioning the legitimacy of the EU will get the federal army that didn't used to exist called on you. Oh, that federal army you warned that the EU was about to create and we laughed at you for that suggestion? It's coming for you now, shitlord.

I feel naught but contempt for those who enable their own oppresion out of mere fashionability.
 
What does all of this look like at Week 40, I wonder? And at what point does this turn into a shooting war? Just like here, neither side seems willing to compromise or find a peaceful solution. Us or them, deathmatch.

Yeah that's one of the big things that have kept this going. Both sides won't back down, and both sides are fighting for the same thing -- France's future.

Macron won't step down because he knows if he does then the EU is straight up done for, and globalism in Europe may go down with it as a result.
And the French citizenry, aside from the urban elite, know that as bad as things may be today, they certainly aren't going to get any better if something doesn't change right now. Yesterday it was a gas tax decreed on high from the unaccountable and unelected bureaucrats of the EU -- tomorrow it'll be an even bigger gas tax with an additional food tax and migrant comfort package tax added on with an army of jack boots from Brussels to enforce it and keep them from hitting the streets to complain about it.

So many people think things like full blown revolutions or civil wars don't/can't happen any more in cushy 1st world nations. Then you get the ones who think we've "moved past such behaviors" while having the gall to label themselves intellectuals. So many are unaware of just how thin the veneer of civilization is and that no nation is immune from it.
 
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