EU Le Gilets Jaune protests thread - Do you hear the people sing? Singing the songs of angry men?

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-46233560

One protester has died and dozens were injured as almost a quarter of a million people took to the streets of France, angry at rising fuel prices.

The female protester who died was struck after a driver surrounded by demonstrators panicked and accelerated.

The "yellow vests", so-called after the high-visibility jackets they are required to carry in their cars, blocked motorways and roundabouts.

They accuse President Emmanuel Macron of abandoning "the little people".

Mr Macron has not so far commented on the protests, some of which have seen demonstrators call for him to resign.

But he admitted earlier in the week that he had not "really managed to reconcile the French people with their leaders".

Nonetheless, he accused his political opponents of hijacking the movement in order to block his reform programme.

What has happened so far?
Some 244,000 people took part in protests across France, the interior ministry said in its latest update.

It said 106 people were injured during the day, five seriously, with 52 people arrested.

Most of the protests have been taking place without incident although several of the injuries came when drivers tried to force their way through protesters.

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Image captionA driver forces a car through a group of protesters in Donges, western France
Chantal Mazet, 63, was killed in the south-eastern Savoy region when a driver who was taking her daughter to hospital panicked at being blocked by about 50 demonstrators, who were striking the roof of her vehicle, and drove into them.

The driver has been taken into police custody in a state of shock.

In Paris protesters approaching the Élysée Palace, the president's official residence, were repelled with tear gas.

Why are drivers on the warpath?
The price of diesel, the most commonly used fuel in French cars, has risen by around 23% over the past 12 months to an average of €1.51 (£1.32; $1.71) per litre, its highest point since the early 2000s, AFP news agency reports.

World oil prices did rise before falling back again but the Macron government raised its hydrocarbon tax this year by 7.6 cents per litre on diesel and 3.9 cents on petrol, as part of a campaign for cleaner cars and fuel.

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Image captionTear gas was used to disperse protesters in Paris
The decision to impose a further increase of 6.5 cents on diesel and 2.9 cents on petrol on 1 January 2019 was seen as the final straw.

Speaking on Wednesday, the president blamed world oil prices for three-quarters of the price rise. He also said more tax on fossil fuels was needed to fund renewable energy investments.

How big is the movement?
It has broad support. Nearly three-quarters of respondents to a poll by the Elabe institute backed the Yellow Vests and 70% wanted the government to reverse the fuel tax hikes.

More than half of French people who voted for Mr Macron support the protests, Elabe's Vincent Thibault told AFP.

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Image captionPolice attend as protesters block a motorway in Antibes
"The expectations and discontent over spending power are fairly broad, it's not just something that concerns rural France or the lower classes," he said.

The BBC's Lucy Williamson in Paris says the movement has grown via social media into a broad and public criticism of Mr Macron's economic policies.

Are opposition politicians involved?
They have certainly tried to tap into it. Far-right leader Marine Le Pen, who was defeated by Mr Macron in the second round of the presidential election, has been encouraging it on Twitter.

She said: "The government shouldn't be afraid of French people who come to express their revolt and do it in a peaceful fashion."

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Laurent Wauquiez, leader of the centre-right Republicans, called on the Macron government to scrap the next planned increase in carbon tax on fossil fuels in January to offset rising vehicle fuel prices.

Mr Castaner has described Saturday's action as a "political protest with the Republicans behind it".

Olivier Faure, leader of the left-wing Socialist Party said the movement - which has no single leader and is not linked to any trade union - had been "born outside political parties".

"People want politicians to listen to them and respond. Their demand is to have purchasing power and financial justice," he said.

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Is there any room for compromise?
On Wednesday, the government announced action to help poor families pay their energy and transport bills.

Prime Minister Edouard Philippe announced that 5.6 million households would receive energy subsidies. Currently 3.6 million receive them.

A state scrappage bonus on polluting vehicles would also be doubled for France's poorest families, he said, and fuel tax credits would be brought in for people who depend on their cars for work.

Protesters have mocked the president relentlessly as "Micron" or "Macaron" (Macaroon) or simply Manu, the short form of Emmanuel, which he famously scolded a student for using.

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To be honest, I don't blame the driver at all.
 
To compare, a Ring Airfoil grenade, which *is* used by US law enforcement, hits at about 270 feet per second: Less than half that of the Flash-Ball.

I don't think those are in use anymore. However, 40mm foam ball rounds are in wide us with US law enforcement. One spec sheet I looked put them at 290 ft/s and a lot of the energy is expended when the foam crushes against a target. They will still put a person down hard. For extra fun, the foam can be impregnated with OC, CS, or marking powder.
 
On the other hand, the MSM also desires gibs from the government for being what are essentially their propaganda arms. Giving any attention to the people that want to topple the guys that pay them isn't a great strategy for them as all it will do is cause a Streisand Effect and make more people join. Corporatists always look out for their own if it's to their mutual benefit and the MSM and the Neoliberal Globalists of Macron and his ilk are entirely in bed with each other

I saw the term "government stenographers" earlier in this thread, and that's completely true and needs to become the new term for journalists in this day and age.
 
Ack ack acshually....

If they WERE stenographers in the purest term of just writing down what was happening, that'd be fine.

But they're worse

They're selenographers with nasty biases who want to see a conviction, believing they have the moral authority to judge you guilty based on the "obvious" evil parts of your personality your non-progressive actions betray. So they feel no remorse or reservation to alter the record to show what's "Really" going on, they're on the right side of history so it's okay to tell untruths in service of making sure the progressive Utopian future gets here as quickly as possible.

So when you, a social conservative, get on the proverbial stand and say "I didn't stab that man, look, nobody did! He isn't even injured!" the media writes "accused assumes gender of their victim, denies hate crimes exist, conviction all but assured unless the white power structure of the jury lets him off as they always will"
 
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The Neoliberal is the real final boss.
Something tells me with that name she might not realize that France is a literal white country. Over 80% of the French are native French. I know she's probably used to the UK, or London really, being very well mixed but that's not the case in France funny enough, despite all the migrations.

Well except Paris.
 
Something tells me with that name she might not realize that France is a literal white country. Over 80% of the French are native French. I know she's probably used to the UK, or London really, being very well mixed but that's not the case in France funny enough, despite all the migrations.

Well except Paris.


London isn't the blame for this one, she is a french journalist descended from Algerian family.

EDIT: She does a bunch of work in different press however even Russia Today.
 
London isn't the blame for this one, she is a French journalist descended from Algerian family.

EDIT: She does a bunch of work in different press however even Russia Today.
Being that she wrote for the Independent, it had me a bit confused as they're a British newspaper.

Still, it's silly to claim such a thing or anything like that, but then again, it seems to be the way media is going these days. Got to stomp out any dissent to the pet projects of the politicians who are in the "right". I can't imagine what history books will look upon this period and call it.
I myself would call this period, the Era of Mass Media and Morality, because everything is "moral" these days and mass media, in the form of news and social media, is dictating what that morality is.
 
Being that she wrote for the Independent, it had me a bit confused as they're a British newspaper.

Still, it's silly to claim such a thing or anything like that, but then again, it seems to be the way media is going these days. Got to stomp out any dissent to the pet projects of the politicians who are in the "right". I can't imagine what history books will look upon this period and call it.
I myself would call this period, the Era of Mass Media and Morality, because everything is "moral" these days and mass media, in the form of news and social media, is dictating what that morality is.
I prefer to call it "The Kali Yuga."
 
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This "European Army" will be a few designated units of the already standing and already neglected armed forces of each member state. And since these have decayed due to leadership indifference to the point they only are effective as National Guard units, they will only ever be called upon to suppress things like the yellow vests.

That's what the elite want now more than ever, someone they can speed dial Brussels for when things like this happen so they can put down dissent while saying "Hey, don't look at me, there weren't any FRENCH troops in that fireman-beating CS-chucking mob, a few rogue servicemen must just've got out of hand, but we wouldn't be here if you peasants knew your place and ceased your undemocratic and destabilizing protesting" and talking up how the dead lady who got killed just trying to close her blinds is a small price to pay for the greater goal of a United Europe where anything that costs the globalists their profit is a no-no.

Don't let them get away with it, Madames and Monsieurs They don't care about you unless you make noise, and only then so that you be quiet again, kick them to the curb.
 
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So and other nations can beg Brussels to send in German troops to fire upon their own peasantry when they start getting uppity

But please, tell us how the EU isn't a German Fourth Reich that was made possible because they went for the relatively non-violent approach but still has the same amount of faecism
 
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