💥 Trainwreck Laur Trueman / RVT01 - Batshit crazy mother of "influencer" Lillee Jean Trueman.

[lamp shade]

Steve is honestly too stupid to care but I wonder if Cheshire has figured out that Laur has a toxic effect on everyone she merely mentions. Steve and Viq thought they could tap into Laur's crazy to gain channel views and followers yet in spite of Laur and Lillee having "millions" of fans/followers their audience hasn't grown , people don't engage with them on Twitter ,like or share their tweets when either tags Laur/Lillee or talk about cyberbullying issues regarding the Trueman's . If you look at their Twitter accounts the story tells itself and even when they skip talking about or tagging Laur she won't reciprocate.

Even worse is that both harassed people with Laur and as a result they have people across several social media sites and forums digging into their backgrounds to expose them and contrary to what they say neither one likes it . Even if either is smart enough to tell Laur to screw off they will never get rid of her or Lillee .

Chesh isn’t that smart. I think she’s disappearing from the spotlight for a bit because her photo was posted and the other farms found her real name, but she won’t be able to keep her sperging contained long. Though you are definitely correct that they must be recognizing now how strange it is that they haven’t gained fans, views, or engagement from whiteknighting this totally famous and not fake MUA. Both Steve and Chesh are losing their handle on the situation.

 

[Punkinsplice]

So these guys don't know that Laur's (and Lillee's) following is mostly fake?

 

[I hate children?]

So these guys don't know that Laur's (and Lillee's) following is mostly fake?

I guess not or they thought they would gain more followers exploiting the bullying issue. The problem is that it's pretty damn hard to claim you are against bullying when you engage in it yourself and you decide to attach yourself to someone like Laur and Lillee who are relentless at terrorizing others .

Steve and Cheshire were both called out instantly when they took up Laur's cause for similar behavior and instead of dropping the matter they both decided to ramp up their harassment of people including people who didn't know who they were.

 

[Exceptionally Exceptional]

So these guys don't know that Laur's (and Lillee's) following is mostly fake?

Apparently. According to them nothing you can offer in support of her mom buying followers (her suspiciously low engagement per post, the disparity in follower numbers between her IG and YT accounts, IG audit sites stats, IG audits that show the majority of her followers are from Iran, etc...) is "evidence", which leads me to wonder if they think evidence and proof are the same thing. They're not.
Evidence is technically any information that supports a hypothesis, whereas proof is conclusive evidence that definitively proves a hypothesis. This is why we have terms like "Circumstantial Evidence", "Analogical Evidence", "Anecdotal Evidence", "Demonstrative Evidence" and so forth, which denote types of evidence.
And, of course, there's also a difference between proof (singular) and proofs (plural). The various proofs (Proof by Mathematical Induction, Proof by Contradiction, etc..) are basically the methods by which things are proven which can include many forms of presented evidence or even just the use of logical deduction.

And what's funniest is that McRae is holding Laur to a completely separate standard than her critics. Laur outright claimed on Twitter that someone had threatened to shoot her. She's provided no evidence of this at all (despite screeching about having screenshots which she never posts), yet McRae seems content to just let shit like that slide. Laur and Lillee claim Null owns reddit without a lick of proof, and I doubt McRae and pals would press her to prove that.

Edit: Added a line I forgot to add because I'm a fucking tard.

 

[lamp shade]

Apparently. According to them nothing you can offer in support of her mom buying followers (her suspiciously low engagement per post, the disparity in follower numbers between her IG and YT accounts, IG audit sites stats, IG audits that show the majority of her followers are from Iran, etc...) is "evidence", which leads me to wonder if they think evidence and proof are the same thing. They're not.
Evidence is technically any information that supports a hypothesis, whereas proof is conclusive evidence that definitively proves a hypothesis. This is why we have terms like "Circumstantial Evidence", "Analogical Evidence", "Anecdotal Evidence", "Demonstrative Evidence" and so forth, which denote types of evidence. The various sorts of proof (Proof by Mathematical Induction, Proof by Contradiction, etc..) are basically the methods by which things are proven which can include many forms of presented evidence or even just the use of logical deduction.

And what's funniest is that McRae is holding Laur to a completely separate standard than her critics. Laur outright claimed on Twitter that someone had threatened to shoot her. She's provided no evidence of this at all (despite screeching about having screenshots which she never posts), yet McRae seems content to just let shit like that slide. Laur and Lillee claim Null owns reddit without a lick of proof, and I doubt McRae and pals would press her to prove that.

I think a lot of the desire to jump into the situation is because Steve, Chesh, and co. have been screeching to the internet for quite some time with no results. Having a new set of people to validate their delusional points of view boosted their egos. They were so blinded by the need for validation on the internet that they failed to see that Laur and Lillee are compulsive liars, racists, and bullies, and now they’re in too deep so they just keep digging deeper hoping they’ll somehow still be right. It explains why they put their fingers in their ears and go “lalala cOnTeXt lalala” whenever someone presents evidence.

 

[Punkinsplice]

So Null "owns Reddit", huh? Is he single? jk
These are some fascinating and, um, extraordinary people right here. I am going to go back over the thread. I had skimmed through it before, know the main story, but there are details I missed.

 

[12 Inch Taint]

Steve's still trying to drum up hate watchers for this pathetic stream tomorrow; goes without saying but please don't give this fucksocket any views. Someone will archive and post it here or lolcow. My hope is when he realizes this affiliation with the attic dwellers isn't going to generate him any traffic or interest, he'll dump them and latch on to the next shitstorm du jour.
She supposedly has a million fans and not one showed up on twitter to like, RT, or jump in to defend her anywhere? For a person who likes to believe he's so logical, he has no grasp of abductive reasoning.

 

[sixcarbchiligorl]

Steve's still trying to drum up hate watchers for this pathetic stream tomorrow; goes without saying but please don't give this fucksocket any views. Someone will archive and post it here or lolcow. My hope is when he realizes this affiliation with the attic dwellers isn't going to generate him any traffic or interest, he'll dump them and latch on to the next shitstorm du jour.
She supposedly has a million fans and not one showed up on twitter to like, RT, or jump in to defend her anywhere? For a person who likes to believe he's so logical, he has no grasp of abductive reasoning.

Seconding what Taint said, and posting this Anon's comment here just for extra emphasis:

There's no point in giving them any views.

 

[lamp shade]

It’s real interesting to me that Steve has yet to address Laur trying to get Nick Rekieta disbarred. This was someone who had never mentioned Lillee, had no idea who she was, and was going about his business. Laur tried to destroy his entire career and his income used to care for his five(?) kids simply because he interviewed someone she doesn’t like. Then submitted an appeal when the bar association told her she was crazy claiming he was harboring a fugitive. What’s your excuse for that, Stevie Boy? I bet he’s scared shitless of Nick because he knows he’d get the smack down.

Agree, I won’t be hate watching because it’s just going to be hours of mental gymnastics at the Olympic level.

 

[one and done]

Seconding what Taint said, and posting this Anon's comment here just for extra emphasis:

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There's no point in giving them any views.

Steve has been ruffling the feathers of some of his fans who are actual skeptics, people are announcing on twitter that they think he's backed the wrong horse and are gonna be parting ways with him after this. Even most of his hardcore sycophants have removed themselves from participating too much in his irrational diatribes in the past week. McBoom is pig-headed as fuck, but I think it's starting to sink in with him that he's losing his base and that there are no jeaniez to replace what he's losing, He's trying to give himself a way to save face by claiming that Monday's video is not going to be an open debate at all anymore, just a lecture on "how to spin a narrative" and then the whole subject is going to be permanently put to rest by his compelling arguments.



Of course, the callouts aren't gonna stop and Laur is not gonna willingly take her hooks out of her human shields unless she thinks she can con someone else into protecting her and Lillee, so the only way Steve keeps his audience is if he ghosts Laur or otherwise refuses to engage further after the video gets posted.

 

[lamp shade]

Steve has been ruffling the feathers of some of his fans who are actual skeptics, people are announcing on twitter that they think he's backed the wrong horse and are gonna be parting ways with him after this. Even most of his hardcore sycophants have removed themselves from participating too much in his irrational diatribes in the past week. McBoom is pig-headed as fuck, but I think it's starting to sink in with him that he's losing his base and that there are no jeaniez to replace what he's losing, He's trying to give himself a way to save face by claiming that Monday's video is not going to be an open debate at all anymore, just a lecture on "how to spin a narrative" and then the whole subject is going to be permanently put to rest by his compelling arguments.

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Of course, the callouts aren't gonna stop and Laur is not gonna willingly take her hooks out of her human shields unless she thinks she can con someone else into protecting her and Lillee, so the only way Steve keeps his audience is if he ghosts Laur or otherwise refuses to engage further after the video gets posted.

It is so funny watching this begin to blow up in his face. Anyone who defends that psychotic pair at this point, especially after any amount of research, deserves to go down with them. That ship was on fire before he ever jumped on board.

 

[sixcarbchiligorl]

so the only way Steve keeps his audience is if he ghosts Laur or otherwise refuses to engage further after the video gets posted.

100%. I think he's been angling at this for the past couple of days with the "after Monday" stuff.

Idiotic Laur can't even fathom that she'll lose the support of this random loser she's built up in her head, so she doesn't see it. She's thinking that somehow all of the "trolls" will be silenced by Steve's wonderful (his-audience-only) commentary.

It looks like they're planning a quiet discussion on cyberbullying and conceding that some of Laur's behavior is insane. Then he'll try to wash his hands of all of it and distance himself from the loons. What a group of winners.

 

[I hate children?]

It is impossible to sort fact from fiction with Laur and Steve but you would think Laur wouldn't want someone accused of sexual harassment advocating for her .
Katie accused ladies man Steve of fraud and sexual harassment this year and both sides threatened the other with lawsuits . I don't know what to believe because none of these people are credible but they all deserve each other.

 

[lamp shade]

I just read that his “show” apparently started at 10am. You know, when all of the big brains and scholars are also sitting around at home and not at work on a Monday.

 

[Exceptionally Exceptional]

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It is impossible to sort fact from fiction with Laur and Steve but you would think Laur wouldn't want someone accused of sexual harassment advocating for her .
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Katie seems like potential lolcow material herself, tbh. Fairly certain to people like her so much as looking at her wrong is rape.

 

[I hate children?]

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Katie seems like potential lolcow material herself, tbh. Fairly certain to people like her so much as looking at her wrong is rape.

She is and lcf had mentioned this . She has drama with several people on the farms ,she was part of Steve's skeptic community circus , does celebrity gossip including discussing children but lost her shit when people discussed her son ,threatens her critics with lolsuits when they do the same things she does and there is other silly petty shit that several people have documented on Twitter and Facebook.

There is something really gross about threatening people with defamation lolsuits to shut up their valid criticism when you have made your personal drama public and make money off of badmouthing people.

 

[Botchy Galoop]

LCF is in the process of drilling down into his shit for a proper OP and a thread all his own. McRae's a supercreep and the whole thing is going to be a magnificent shitshow.

Steve is desperately trying to regain what little respect he commanded in the Great Derpbate communty after he lost his channel to Kyle, but even more recently, he is being accused of being a "rape apologist" because the dumbfuck had some asswipe on his "show" that turned out to be a registered sex offender/rapist. Steve didn't let facts stand in the way and went to bat for this rapist, all the while not vetting the facts of this man's background. Steve kept insisting that Earl's (I think that is the shits name) rape case was a simple Romeo and Juliet scenario. All the while, people were trying to show Steve the court documents that Earl actually impersonated a cop, and raped a total stranger. At this time, Earl is also being accused by his daughters of rape and is being investigated. Steve of course, could not admit to his fuck up, and doubled and tripled down.

Now Steve appears to be trying be some great hero of the poor bullied little helpless women, and thus regain his non-existent reputation for logic, rationality and the american way. ( Did you know he went to Nuke School?? He'll make sure to tell you that many, many times)

For any of the Farmers who are looking for recent dirt on Steve, I would suggest checking out a channel called Dragnauct Sylvas. He loves to needle Steve and has documented quite a bit of the rape apologist arc in his vids.

Dragnauct also needled Shanny forChrist, a recent entry in the Chantal storyline here on the farms...

The singularity approaches, all I need is for CWC to make her appearance and I can die a happy farmer.

 

[StrawberryDouche]

Steve is desperately trying to regain what little respect he commanded in the Great Derpbate communty after he lost his channel to Kyle, but even more recently, he is being accused of being a "rape apologist" because the dumbfuck had some asswipe on his "show" that turned out to be a registered sex offender/rapist. Steve didn't let facts stand in the way and went to bat for this rapist, all the while not vetting the facts of this man's background. Steve kept insisting that Earl's (I think that is the shits name) rape case was a simple Romeo and Juliet scenario. All the while, people were trying to show Steve the court documents that Earl actually impersonated a cop, and raped a total stranger. At this time, Earl is also being accused by his daughters of rape and is being investigated. Steve of course, could not admit to his fuck up, and doubled and tripled down.

Now Steve appears to be trying be some great hero of the poor bullied little helpless women, and thus regain his non-existent reputation for logic, rationality and the american way. ( Did you know he went to Nuke School?? He'll make sure to tell you that many, many times)

For any of the Farmers who are looking for recent dirt on Steve, I would suggest checking out a channel called Dragnauct Sylvas. He loves to needle Steve and has documented quite a bit of the rape apologist arc in his vids.

Dragnauct also needled Shanny forChrist, a recent entry in the Chantal storyline here on the farms...

The singularity approaches, all I need is for CWC to make her appearance and I can die a happy farmer.

It appears that his sidekick -that Cheshireviq girl- just turned 17. Like a minute ago. There is a screenshot on LCF of people wishing her happy birthday and she mentions her age.

There are a multitude of pictures with his 50 year old ass oppressively draped all over girls young enough to be his granddaughters.

This is classic predatory behavior what he's doing with Laur and Lillee- charm the mother to get to the daughter. He's a goddamn degenerate and Laur is willing to sell access to her daughter for attention and validation from an internet stranger.

Of course he's a rape apologist. Of course he is. There are very good reasons a man in his 50s is unemployed and can't seem to keep stable housing, and I will not be surprised when evidence of sexual offenses or misconduct eventually surfaces. Because it will. It's coming.

 

[lamp shade]

It appears that his sidekick -that Cheshireviq girl- just turned 17. Like a minute ago. There is a screenshot on LCF of people wishing her happy birthday and she mentions her age.

There are a multitude of pictures with his 50 year old ass oppressively draped all over girls young enough to be his granddaughters.

This is classic predatory behavior what he's doing with Laur and Lillee- charm the mother to get to the daughter. He's a goddamn degenerate and Laur is willing to sell access to her daughter for attention and validation from an internet stranger.

Of course he's a rape apologist. Of course he is. There are very good reasons a man in his 50s is unemployed and can't seem to keep stable housing, and I will not be surprised when evidence of sexual offenses or misconduct eventually surfaces. Because it will. It's coming.

And Laur went on how long about the Vic stuff and how awful Nick was for supporting him? I don’t know any of the details of that whole mess, but I do know Laur was trashing Nick and co. for supporting him because of the sexual assault allegations. Now she’s hanging out with a proven rape apologist.

Is there anything she does that isn’t hypocritical? She jumps on whatever she thinks will “sPiN hER nArrATiVe” in a way that she can manipulate people into supporting her and trashing her perceived enemies.

 

[sixcarbchiligorl]

It appears that his sidekick -that Cheshireviq girl- just turned 17. Like a minute ago. There is a screenshot on LCF of people wishing her happy birthday and she mentions her age.

Nah, that's an attempt at a dig at people who accuse her of being underage.

It's hilarious that he took a stand for a cop-impersonating rapist and refused to acknowledge the EVIDENCE. As far as I know, the livestream didn't surpass more than 300 people, and was mostly Steve patting himself on the back and talking shit about Kyle. We'll find out more when the stream is archived. I don't believe Laur and LJ were the focus at all, at least not for the first couple of hours.

He did say that he has no problem admitting when he's mistaken about something. He went on about this for several minutes. In light of the fake cop racist, it is ludicrous that he would even claim something like that. My personal favorite is his use of "chiwawa" and subsequent defense of that usage. He claimed it was the phonetic spelling and perfectly acceptable. His evidence was a single source, chiwawadogs.net.

Hopefully these complete morons fade out of the picture now, and the spotlight can return to the pair of psychos in their rented attic.

I really hope Steve hardly mentioned them at all. Seeing them chimp out at Steve would be funny.