KiwiOS - Linux pre-setup for Kiwis or, if you like, AutismOS

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GethN7 said:
Strange. Should default to a slightly stripped down but entirely functional version of the Ubiquity installer.
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I ran it in bash and got a bevy of syntax errors. I'm guessing something didn't get sanitized properly. I'll troubleshoot later, but for now could you test it's boot time on your lower end devices?
 
Wingus Dongshire said:
I ran it in bash and got a bevy of syntax errors. I'm guessing something didn't get sanitized properly. I'll troubleshoot later, but for now could you test it's boot time on your lower end devices?
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It'll have to be sometime tonight then, got some shit to do today.
 
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ok fixed: it sucks, it doesn't use SystemD, it has Guix as a package manager and it has XFCEses, Gnome and i3 (press F1 on the user login menu and it should let you choose i think)

right now i'm looking into a way to put a specific wallpaper in all DE's, but there doesn't seem to be such command, i'm sure as fuck that i won't fork Gnome/XFCE just to set a wallpaper at startup

also i fucked up something and i'm recompiling another image that will be uploaded somewhere
 
This is a fun idea. Not sure if I’d use it for anything other than the novelty (can’t take me off Cent or Parrot), but I’ll gladly tinker around with it.
 
lasciateognesperanza said:
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ok fixed: it sucks, it doesn't use SystemD, it has Guix as a package manager and it has XFCEses, Gnome and i3 (press F1 on the user login menu and it should let you choose i think)

right now i'm looking into a way to put a specific wallpaper in all DE's, but there doesn't seem to be such command, i'm sure as fuck that i won't fork Gnome/XFCE just to set a wallpaper at startup

also i fucked up something and i'm recompiling another image that will be uploaded somewhere
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Let's just hope it's normie friendly enough. Remember they're the target audience. You think they'll be able to configure their shit in lisp?
 
Ever thought about maintaining a repository to put a few packages for KiwiOS? I mean, I doubt it'll be that much of anything but I bet Josh could set you up a VPS for the repository.
 
Shoggoth said:
Let's just hope it's normie friendly enough. Remember they're the target audience. You think they'll be able to configure their shit in lisp?
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don't think of lisp as some wizardry shit, it's actually really simple (well, Guix is)
Code: 
(operating-system
  (locale "en_US.utf8")
  (timezone "Europe/Paris")
  (kernel KiwiOS)
  (firmware (append (list
         iwlwifi-firmware-nonfree)
            %base-firmware))

  (keyboard-layout (keyboard-layout "us" "euro"))
  (bootloader
    (bootloader-configuration
      (bootloader grub-bootloader)
      (target "/dev/sda")
      (keyboard-layout keyboard-layout)
      (theme %kiwi-theme)))

  (file-systems
   (cons*
    (file-system
     (mount-point "/")
     (device (file-system-label "a-root"))
     (type "ext4"))
    %base-file-systems))
  (host-name "hell")
  (users (cons* (user-account
                  (name "kiwi")
                  (comment "virgin with rage")
                  (group "users")
                  (home-directory "/home/kiwi")
          (password (crypt "kiwi" "$6$abc"))
                  (supplementary-groups
                    '("wheel" "netdev" "audio" "video" "kvm")))
                %base-user-accounts))
  (packages
    (append
      (list openbox
            nss-certs
        i3-wm
        tor)
      %base-packages))

  (services
    (append
     (list (service gnome-desktop-service-type)
       (service xfce-desktop-service-type)
       (service tor-service-type)
       (set-xorg-configuration
        (xorg-configuration
         (keyboard-layout keyboard-layout))))
    %desktop-services)))
]

you don't need to be a scheme god to understand this
 
4str4staleatherbelt said:
if I wanted to uninstall this how would I do it?
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Just re-install your old operating system over it. (this deletes all your files, so back them up if you care)
(or if you want to get more technical and switch to a different linux distro, separate / from /home and then just overwrite / with a new OS; this preserves all your files, but back them up anyways just to be safe lol)
 
wylfım said:
Just re-install your old operating system over it. (this deletes all your files, so back them up if you care)
(or if you want to get more technical and switch to a different linux distro, separate / from /home and then just overwrite / with a new OS; this preserves all your files, but back them up anyways just to be safe lol)
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I'm pretty sure you do not need to re-install your original OS after installing Linus/Windows if you have both on your computer/dual boot.
 
4str4staleatherbelt said:
I'm pretty sure you do not need to re-install your original OS after installing Linus/Windows if you have both on your computer/dual boot.
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If that's the case, just delete the linux partition and reallocate it to windows. Sorry, forgot people dual booted lol.
 
wylfım said:
If that's the case, just delete the linux partition and reallocate it to windows. Sorry, forgot people dual booted lol.
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Caveat: For Windows users, Linux modifies the boot record, this can mess it up, so have the Windows 7/10 installer rebuild the master boot record,then reboot and use Windows normally again.
 
lasciateognesperanza said:
don't think of lisp as some wizardry shit, it's actually really simple
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I know, and I'm a lisp fanatic. I cuddle with SICP and beat people over the head with Clojure.
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You underestimate how averse to writing code the average lay user is, and how daunting all the parens are for them. Even developers get mildly nervous from them. I don't see what their problem is, though, it's perfectly fine in my opinion.
Why not even use NixOS for the configuration?
Because you want something as close as possible to a stock distro where if someone gets stuck they can google an answer. So while I hate *buntu I'll still default to it as a recommendation for beginners. Same goes for systemd.
On a side note, I remember reading about some broken dependencies in Guix, I don't know if its been resolved yet.

EDIT: I understand I'm coming off as an annoying naysayer and I really don't want to give this impression. I think the whole endeavor in this thread is worth while and the kiwis in it are doing the Omnissiah's work
 
Wingus Dongshire said:
I ran it in bash and got a bevy of syntax errors. I'm guessing something didn't get sanitized properly. I'll troubleshoot later, but for now could you test it's boot time on your lower end devices?
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Got the tests done, and I got the installer to run fine initially, seems all that really broke was the automatic install by clicking the installer, typing ubiquity into the terminal made it work fine, but it crashed towards the end.

The loading of the LiveCD works fine (very fast, in fact), and the custom theme with random quotes works well too, though the text need reduced in size somewhat, even on widescreens some quotes are too long. Either that, or a word wrapping function depending on desktop length.

The quotes also tend to bleed over running programs, that could cause some UI feature issues, here's a slightly ghetto screenshot of this issue:

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Some "system error reported" messages come up if you try mess around with programs in LiveCD mode, and looking at the installer logs as it progressed, it seems ubiquity might have had some issues, the Calamares installer may need installed as a fallback option to sidestep this if this is the problem. (had some issues determining it should be drawing from Ubuntu 18.04 repositories according to the logs for the ubiquity installer)
 
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GethN7 said:
Got the tests done, and I got the installer to run fine initially, seems all that really broke was the automatic install by clicking the installer, typing ubiquity into the terminal made it work fine, but it crashed towards the end.

The loading of the LiveCD works fine (very fast, in fact), and the custom theme with random quotes works well too, though the text need reduced in size somewhat, even on widescreens some quotes are too long. Either that, or a word wrapping function depending on desktop length.

The quotes also tend to bleed over running programs, that could cause some UI feature issues, here's a slightly ghetto screenshot of this issue:

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Some "system error reported" messages come up if you try mess around with programs in LiveCD mode, and looking at the installer logs as it progressed, it seems ubiquity might have had some issues, the Calamares installer may need installed as a fallback option to sidestep this if this is the problem. (had some issues determining it should be drawing from Ubuntu 18.04 repositories according to the logs for the ubiquity installer)
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Shit hit the fan at work so I haven't had time to look. There's no text wrapping functionality in Conky, so I'd have to shrink the text size. The reason it's on top of everything is because whatever DWM is at play here stops rendering it the minute you click on the desktop if it's not run as a dock window; I hadn't realized it was persisting over windows, though. I have a screenshot from right before I generated the liveCD, so I have an environment I can easily modify.
 
Wingus Dongshire said:
No, that's what TAILS is for.


Fair point, my hardware goes on two ranges of "gaming PC" to "vintage computers." I don't think Linux runs on a C64 or a PowerBook, so I have never had a practical test of boot times on low end hardware. Why not make this a git repo so Kiwis can help flesh it out with pull reqs?
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There literally is a C64 distro.

en.m.wikipedia.org

LUnix - Wikipedia

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This is an interesting thing to do, but why not just use bog standard ubuntu and then just install the software you want? I managed it and I am totally exceptional. Admittedly, I have a specific pc for shitposting and then a different one for everything else.
On my shit posting pc I just use ubuntu (and what comes with it, like FF, libre orifice) and also Brave, audacity, a VPN, and VLC and a couple of other things.
But it is possible to partition your HDD and leave windows on C and put linux on the other partition and then you just select which way you want to go when you boot up.
Personally, I can't be bothered.
 
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