💰 Grifter Kino Casino - Read Kiwifarms with abortionist A-a-andy Warski and lardy PPP. A lolcow drama show. 2/28/2019, never forget.

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It would be a bad move for PPP to throw Andy under the bus. Take the L together and move on. After all the time they talked about "being the nail", they just need to follow what they preached.
Those leaked DMs of Ashton shitting on Andy look bad but it would be nice to see both of them just acknowledge them and move on
 
Are Ashton and Andy on good terms? Some of PPP's comments in the kick chat make me wonder.

I hope this doesn't end the show. I've really been enjoying it lately and they've been very successful in the last 6 months.

I personally don't care about Vegas, since it seems that the trip was over a year ago and caused them to refocus on their show and sober up.

Is there a good summary post or clips going over this situation that I can watch? Or is reading this thread my only option?
No fuck that gay shit i hope they freeze and die in the cold. Sometimes you are the nail sometimes you are the hammer, and it's time to put those nails in that coffin.
It would be a bad move for PPP to throw Andy under the bu. Take the L together and move on. After all this time taking about "being the nail", they just need to follow what they preached.
Those leaked DMs of Ashton shitting on Andy look bad but it would be nice to see both of them just acknowledge them and move on
They should both go under the bus where they belong, preferably they cannibalize, it will make for a nice final arc honestly if they shitfling each other to death.
 
Are Ashton and Andy on good terms? Some of PPP's comments in the kick chat make me wonder.

I hope this doesn't end the show. I've really been enjoying it lately and they've been very successful in the last 6 months.

I personally don't care about Vegas, since it seems that the trip was over a year ago and caused them to refocus on their show and sober up.

Is there a good summary post or clips going over this situation that I can watch? Or is reading this thread my only option?
If they let this end the show then the show deserves to end

All they have to do is say "yeah, we did that a year ago. It was a mistake and we won't do it again."

Seething about it publicly will just make things worse
 
If they let this end the show then the show deserves to end

All they have to do is say "yeah, we did that a year ago. It was a mistake and we won't do it again."

Seething about it publicly will just make things worse
It's not even the Vegas trip anymore now it's their inner cabal that was also on that Vegas trip, the plot thickened.
 
On account of more information coming out, I will eat my words and take the L that it was as bad as the leaks mention. Now do I think this will be the end of the show? I'm not sure.

The Hedonism 2 thing doesn't bother me that much because these guys are not married and don't have kids and the guys have a history of degenerate activities. If they had kids/ were married I would "care" more. The MM shit pisses me off because of the soapbox voth of them go on about pedos, yet they let them in their inner circle/intemate spaces. The hookers are gross, the pedo shit is unexcusable.
Idk what to feel about the MM situation. Obviously put the fucker against the wall, but in regards to KC I'm not sure how much blame I'd put on them. I'm sympathetic to both "It doesn't matter how much they knew, they got on the soapbox against this shit, so they should be aware if it's happening in their community" and "There's only so much you can expect creators to pay attention to, you can't be on pedophile guard 24/7". If information comes out that they were aware of it AT ALL though, I will firmly be in the "fuck these retards" camp.
I don't consider the Vegas thing to be analogous to Hedonism II, because it doesn't involve married people with kids. It's more of the garden variety degeneracy we already all knew they were capable of.

My position on this has been pretty consistent: This might be an L for the Casino, but it's not a Rekieta-tier L.

I said that all PPP had to do was point out that this happened a year ago, and they don't have an 8 year old that tested positive for cocaine. Sure enough, PPP did exactly that on Twitter.
I'm of the same opinion when it comes to the Vegas trip, where it's nasty and I don't like it, but it's a whole lot different than the Rekieta shit.
 
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Still have to disagree. The whole reason being a cuck is disgusting and degenerate is because you're letting someone you love and/or care about be used and denigrated by someone else. If you don't even know the person being fucked, you can't be a cuck in the situation. Even if there's role play involved, you still don't care about the prostitute at all so someone else fucking them in front of you doesn't matter.
The word that 1/2 the thread is looking for to describe PPP’s role is voyeur. Different from cuckold because there is no marriage in play for Pork ‘n Tard. It’s about watching. Not all the cuck humiliation shit. People throwing “cuck” around are starting to sound like excited retards playing dodgeball, but with words.
lot of people put PPP on a pedestal, he's a funny guy but he's not much brighter than Warski and apparently cant even figure out how to use OBS, he's also morbidly obese and a gambling addict so he has just as little self-control as anyone he shits on.
Never forgot where most content comes from 1st in 9 out of 10 cases. It’s in the 1st sentence of this thread’s title. I’ve heard the Tard ‘n Lard recite posts from this forum, verbatim, & then a week later will see the OP of those posts laud PPP as “brilliant,” & I’ve seen this repeat multiple times. No shit you think it’s so smart, you came up with it 1st. Over & over, again & again. Don’t forget. People eat it up.
PPP coming in like some hero demanding the discord be closed after sitting in the cuck chair and watching Andy teach paypigs to fuck hookers all seems like a work, I think PPP ran this all by Andy before they decided this option was the easiest.
They definitely decided now was the time. I was working on a post (that I never posted as it became after the fact) that had a point being that the minute an interesting post was made, a reaction from PPP & Warski would come. I meant it more as they’d use it as a content idea for their show, but the MM leaks pretty much became that “content” in that it provoked reaction from PPP as a certain type of post was sure to do. They are absolutely using this as an opportunity. Many Sekturite’s would.
But the pedophilia of Metokur Masochist is all news. How could they have known he was into lolicon and Shadman’s depraved art? Who knows by this point.

I’m not trying to defend the duo I’m just questioning some of the narratives that are floating around.
It’s good to say these things. Who gives a shit if anyone calls you a broom-name. It’s true. You aren’t responsible for your audience’s own behavior. The Beejam boys have culpability in the Vegas scenario because they were there, but not in MM’s freshly uncovered degen shit by himself. Anyone claiming otherwise seriously, & not just excitedly shit flinging, is using SJW troon politic bullshit. It’s not a creator, performer, artist, or even Sektur streamer’s job to control who listens to their show. PPP & Warski are playing the game though, so I can’t help but think this will make them money either way.
 
$62,245 split between two is abysmal for 2 years. They're making around $15k a year each from subscriptions?
Considering superchats, I suppose they're making around burger flipper figures. Canada has some pretty good labour laws and a minimum wage so typical low level wagies don't have to bicker over tips.
That's just sad.
Are you including the gumroad subs? Based on the rating they have at least a couple hundred subs and a persip leak has Ashton saying they have at least 1000 gumroad subs at a minimum of $10 USD a month. Gumroad has an option to pay more than the minimum so some paypigs might be shelling out a few hundred dollars for the content.
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Gumroad also only takes about 13% of the total made. $10*1000*0.87= $8700 a month USD. Now we multiply by the exchange rate of 1.4CAD to 1USD to get a total of $12,180CAD.



We also have to include some of the social blade income. Google says a minimum of S1000 per 100,000 views.

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So the clip channel averaged $7500 USD a month. add in the exchange rate of 1.4CAD to 1UDS we get $10,500CAD average per month.

Per the persip leaks and social blade they bring in an average of about $22,500 CAD a month not including subs or superchats.
 
I guess enjoying the show and not wanting it to end means I'm sweeping. 🤡

I've never given a single cent to either of them.
Unironically enjoying this slop, and even then not holding these 2 clowns to the standards they hold others, yeah you are sweeping. If this was any of the people they cover this would be the topic for the next 6 months minimum and you know it. Yeah fuck em fuck their show fuck their grift and fuck their gay shit, they ain't better than what they cover. Fuck them and fuck their pedophile discord cabal especially.
 
I'm struck by a thought and would like if people it's also relevant to were to weigh in; Is anyone who is bothered by a hedonism II moment in Vegas not already more bothered by Andy getting an abortion/PPP making a show of gambling &/or showing off his bumhole?
My default assumption of any person is that they wouldn't fuck hookers. Through this story I was reminded of the Surfer story according to which PPP did fuck a hooker, and now I can reasonably suspect that Warski did too. Kind of a bummer, but to say I'm shocked and surprised would be another thing.
 
serious question but are kiwi farmers even "the true audience" of Kino Casino? It feels like what happened to Jim's streams when he let it slip he was a weeb. The show pretty quickly became degenerate. Except Jim was able to keep to just the superchats ..


I hope my ponder makes sense.
Users of a drama website liking a show about drama on the internet including the Balldo and the Rage pig. No, they'd never watch it.
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On the subject of black hookers, it's worth remembering that black women look kinda mannish by default. Also, PPP being simply too drunk/fat to get up from the chair is another reasonable explanation for him just sitting there while Andy & co. fucked the hookers.
 
On the subject of black hookers, it's worth remembering that black women look kinda mannish by default. Also, PPP being simply too drunk/fat to get up from the chair is another reasonable explanation for him just sitting there while Andy & co. fucked the hookers.
It's obvious PPP got bummed while eating Lays in his chair.
 
@S1apSh0es @carl9987 Btw my little piggies oink for me once if you want the casino to stay, oink for me twice if you have Andy having a panic attack on discord and you picked up the broom to sweep it up for him
Wtf are you talking about. Objectively the best ending for them is to stay together, take the L and move on.
 
Wtf are you talking about. Objectively the best ending for them is to stay together, take the L and move on.
That's the thing though, they can't do that with the current situation, you can't just move on from this and sweep it under the rug by just sacrifing MM and a discord server to the corn. This isn't something you just "move on" from. If it was just the Vegas trip it would be over by new years but THIS, THIS IS BAD. I don't think you realise what kind of bombshell this is. And they might play coy but don't let them deceive you they knew something. Their reaction even is sweepy, because for them to do that it wasn't just Metokur Masochist but i'd wager there is MORE waiting to come out from that inner cabal they had.
 
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