💰 Grifter Kino Casino - Read Kiwifarms with abortionist A-a-andy Warski and lardy PPP. A lolcow drama show. 2/28/2019, never forget.

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All becomes gunt said:
PPP in the past has fucked black hookers before. Surfer told the story before they broke up and he was pretty embarassed about it which was out of character for him. The troons being niggers was probably PPP's little request for this to happen.
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BigPeanut said:
Damn he’s a really nasty bitter guy, pretty gross to read all this. He’s also the biggest snake in the sektur, talking shit on literally every last on of his “friends”
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A lot of people put PPP on a pedestal, he's a funny guy but he's not much brighter than Warski and apparently cant even figure out how to use OBS, he's also morbidly obese and a gambling addict so he has just as little self-control as anyone he shits on.

His constant spergery and "he should be shot" just makes him seem like a 12-year-old sped to me, it seems to get his fanboys excited though.

Given Warski's track record, if the Kino Casino ends it will be tardski that makes a comeback while PPP goes down the path of Tonka, JF, and Ethan Ralph. Call it the Warski curse but he's always second fiddle and ends up surviving while his cohost, that everyone agrees is the 'real talent behind the show slowly implodes. It's happened 3 times before, it'll probably happen again.
Douglas Mortimer said:
This guys a complete monster and evil! Thats why we gladly excepted his invite for this 25 thousand dollar degen vegas party.

Don't ever let them fool you into thinking they didn't know everything about this guy already.
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This went from they fucked a few hookers while drunk in Vegas to the guy funding them is a complete shitbag pretty quick.

It's also brought back up the Warski snapchat stuff, I took Jim's word on that being a gay-op but it looks like Andy may have genuinely thought they were 17 when messaging them, which while legal in Canada (I think) would still make Andy a ped, or at least a sketchy guy by most peoples standards/the internets standards. I'm not sure how old Andy was at the time I suppose if he was only like 19 and he thought she was 17 its not as big a deal but still.

PPP coming in like some hero demanding the discord be closed after sitting in the cuck chair and watching Andy teach paypigs to fuck hookers all seems like a work, I think PPP ran this all by Andy before they decided this option was the easiest.

Discord deleted = no more logs can leak, everything is pinned on Metokur Masochist, Andy can just be like "I don't know, they paid us a lot so I just try to be cool with them but I had no idea" and PPP can be like "I told you not to let them be parasocial with you, Andy" and then they can go back to the show.

Which is good news, I guess, because I do enjoy the show they put on.
 
All becomes gunt said:
OBJECTION! It kind of depends because at that sick orgy there is a non zero chance one of the nigger troons was roleplaying as PPP's girlfriend. Then the mechanics of cuckoldry apply. Remember that this was orchestrated AND PAID FOR by a guy that said this.
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Obviously one hooker that was roleplaying as his wife was his roleplay girlfriend but the other one definitely wasn't tardski's because he was the shota in this situation. THEREFORE that leaves PPP and Gorgoth and Gorgoth was being taught how to lay pipe by Tardski. It probably was PPP being cucked. Gorgoth was the bull.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=BAcdBV1FXA8
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Maybe Andy was the tranny in this situation. He loves to dress in drag and pretend to be a women to solicit dick pics from other men. MM has said he'd love to watch a tranny fuck a girl. There is a non-zero chance that Tardski was in drag during this debauchery .
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AltisticRight said:
The whatever vanity video game bullshit he's trying to work on will never ever reach a playable state. It will be worse than Sargon's bullshit asset dump game. He also wanted to become a speedrunner and a filmmaker at some point. He's in his mid-30s without a goal, he arguably doesn't even have his shit together. Who in their 30s need consultation on how to rent an apartment? Most people do it in their mid-20s, some as early as 18 or 19. Getting the first apartment might be tricky due to lack of references &/so stable income but it's a walk in the park afterwards. That's quite mind-boggling. He's that undisciplined.
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If the apt question is something like: how do I navigate the financial bullshit/credit issues or "is this a safe neighborhood/safe place you got a better eye for judgment than me" I think it's excusable, especially if it's someone you trust. However if you're asking someone to do ALL the leg work, at his age with HIS income that's childish. you're not married and you have enough income to decide for yourself.
 
I’ll cut the casino some slack on one thing: the black hooker story and Metokur Masochist’s pedophilia are separate issues.

For one, it’s bad that the duo engaged in parasocial relationships w/ their pigs in Vegas on MM’s dime & fucked black hookers (and Warski with dancing Indian MILFs, don’t forget).

But the pedophilia of Metokur Masochist is all news. How could they have known he was into lolicon and Shadman’s depraved art? Who knows by this point.

I’m not trying to defend the duo I’m just questioning some of the narratives that are floating around.
 
serious question but are kiwi farmers even "the true audience" of Kino Casino? It feels like what happened to Jim's streams when he let it slip he was a weeb. The show pretty quickly became degenerate. Except Jim was able to keep to just the superchats ..


I hope my ponder makes sense.
 
Moss Monster said:
I'm struck by a thought and would like if people it's also relevant to were to weigh in; Is anyone who is bothered by a hedonism II moment in Vegas not already more bothered by Andy getting an abortion/PPP making a show of gambling &/or showing off his bumhole?
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The Hedonism 2 thing doesn't bother me that much because these guys are not married and don't have kids and the guys have a history of degenerate activities. If they had kids/ were married I would "care" more. The MM shit pisses me off because of the soapbox voth of them go on about pedos, yet they let them in their inner circle/intemate spaces. The hookers are gross, the pedo shit is unexcusable.
 
AltisticRight said:
$62,245 split between two is abysmal for 2 years. They're making around $15k a year each from subscriptions?
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As was pointed out it's more like 1.25 as they didn't move to Kick until summer 2023.

That said, it doesn't seem like a safe assumption that the top paypigs only use Kick since in the past they were caught announcing donations when their donation platform was down with ostensibly no way to donate to them.

At the time it was assumed that must have meant that Metokur Masochist was fake (he wasn't). In my opinion what was most likely the case was that Andy provided a more direct way to donate with lower platform fees.

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It was confirmed a while back that Metokur Masochist is fake.

On the Rakeback #22, at the 15:00 mark, Andy claims that Metokur Masochist donated $100, not realizing that Ethan Ralph had flagged down their Stream Elements link at the start of the stream and that they weren't able to receive donations. I remember this because I was in the gunt chat when it happened, and we all noticed that their Stream Elements link was 404'd by around the 5:00 mark. At the 25:50 mark, Andy realizes this and informs the audience that they can't receive donations for the rest of the stream.
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Cyberpunk Meta said:
But the pedophilia of Metokur Masochist is all news. How could they have known he was into lolicon and Shadman’s depraved art? Who knows by this point.
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Yes, "Who knows" because Andy's first response to the whole thing was to wipe all the Discord servers.
 
Moss Monster said:
I'm struck by a thought and would like if people it's also relevant to were to weigh in; Is anyone who is bothered by a hedonism II moment in Vegas not already more bothered by Andy getting an abortion/PPP making a show of gambling &/or showing off his bumhole?
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I don't consider the Vegas thing to be analogous to Hedonism II, because it doesn't involve married people with kids. It's more of the garden variety degeneracy we already all knew they were capable of.

My position on this has been pretty consistent: This might be an L for the Casino, but it's not a Rekieta-tier L.

I said that all PPP had to do was point out that this happened a year ago, and they don't have an 8 year old that tested positive for cocaine. Sure enough, PPP did exactly that on Twitter.
 
I'm admittedly disappointed in the results and lack of spergout. PPP should go full nuclear on the writers room and leak the supposed ERP between persip and bryan dunn. Maybe that'll lead to a spergout.
 
Punished Derich said:
This is a serious question about the hardcore paypigs like MM. If you're willing to spend five figures on others like this for the sake of a relationship, and want to do degenerate stuff with them, is it that hard to buy friends locally who aren't semi public figures and the worst that'll happen is some Facebook drama instead of an entire autistic internet subculture knowing what a creep you are? Is it the microcelebrity aspect that makes them tick or what?
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interacting with the sector is like hard drugs, it gives a thrill and addiction to be a charcter in it
 
Delicious Diversity said:
The casino finally responds, Metokur Masochist DISAVOWED:
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Some shade at Warski:
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No more discord gayness:
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Jannies banned:
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Liana felted:
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PPP says it's discord or him:
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They are also mass-banning supporters criticising them.
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"Now that people are making fun of me. I realize that deliberately courting parasocial relationships and going on degenerate trips to Vegas is bad. It's also Andy's fault that I chose to do this and encouraged it myself."

Lol
 
Captain Manning said:
I don't consider the Vegas thing to be analogous to Hedonism II, because it doesn't involve married people with kids. It's more of the garden variety degeneracy we already all knew they were capable of.

My position on this has been pretty consistent: This might be an L for the Casino, but it's not a Rekieta-tier L.

I said that all PPP had to do was point out that this happened a year ago, and they don't have an 8 year old that tested positive for cocaine. Sure enough, PPP did exactly that on Twitter.
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Metokur Masochist is married but without kids. Also he was a pdf and he orchestrated all this. I mean it's still a paypig orchestrating his own sexual fantasy with his whole community involved.
 
Are Ashton and Andy on good terms? Some of PPP's comments in the kick chat make me wonder.

I hope this doesn't end the show. I've really been enjoying it lately and they've been very successful in the last 6 months.

I personally don't care about Vegas, since it seems that the trip was over a year ago and caused them to refocus on their show and sober up.

Is there a good summary post or clips going over this situation that I can watch? Or is reading this thread my only option?
 
Coke Zero said:
Still have to disagree. The whole reason being a cuck is disgusting and degenerate is because you're letting someone you love and/or care about be used and denigrated by someone else. If you don't even know the person being fucked, you can't be a cuck in the situation. Even if there's role play involved, you still don't care about the prostitute at all so someone else fucking them in front of you doesn't matter.
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The CQ debate is so strange to me.

If you're sitting in a corner in a chair watching your friend(s) fuck a girl, and you aren't fucking, you're close enough to a cuck. Case closed.

I ain't calling it "The Voyeur Chair", I'm calling it the cuck chair.
 
Captain Manning said:
I don't consider the Vegas thing to be analogous to Hedonism II, because it doesn't involve married people with kids. It's more of the garden variety degeneracy we already all knew they were capable of.

My position on this has been pretty consistent: This might be an L for the Casino, but it's not a Rekieta-tier L.

I said that all PPP had to do was point out that this happened a year ago, and they don't have an 8 year old that tested positive for cocaine. Sure enough, PPP did exactly that on Twitter.
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I shouldn't have said Hedo II, I picked it to be playful, I also don't think that it's as bad due to the lack of marriage or children becoming victim to it.
 
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