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Douglas Mortimer said:
Yeah thats the big one for sure. No amount of apologizing or explaining can get you out of it.
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"were complete and utter degens and were not moral saviors but we didnt know about the pedophilia" i think would have worked better. thats much more debatable. but trying to not only do that but go for that brass ring the little bit extra and try to sweep all the embarrassing shit? no youre just obviously lying at this point and youre exposing the fact lying to cover up and sweep it is your go to mo.
Journoscum said:
I'm a bit of a casual listener, but I've always taken Warski as a decent straight man. PPP is pretty high energy by default, but he can tire out and I think Warski is okay at getting him back into a high octane state. I think Warski being so dry helps PPP stand out more, so it's a good pairing.

For as much as Andy interrupts PPP, I think PPP gets a lot more rants off than he would if someone else was there. A different chair might try to get more of their shit in, so to speak. So if they were to replace Warski, I think it's either a solo PPP show or a guy who would be willing to be a very clear 'number two' behind the big guy.
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i think andy added a decent bit with being the guy who was kinda surprised by things and had some funny moments that people kinda forget because they overall dont like him, he also does have some skills like streaming tech thats easy to forget because of his retarded demeanor. i think they had a good dynamic but its hard to really let a good andy moment stick with you because you either always hated his personality or you initially liked it but got disgusted by his aim aim and other shit. like if the guy you always tried to avoid in your wider friend group happened to be funny youd still more remember not liking him and the general discomfort vs any good jokes.

i was more so able to ignore that i think which is why i had a more positive impression of andy as cohost. well onscreen. offscreen hes caused multiple near or perhaps now totally show ending scandals.
Chadmonk4421 said:
The actual video could come out of andy warski fucking a black fat ebony queen while PPP squeels "SUFFAH HOOKAH" in the corner, I want these fags to stream TOMMOROW! The reason why I like Kino casino wouldn't change if these guys shared a black hooker. I don't care that a paypig jerks off to trannies. I want these guys to have a 5 hour stream going over Destiny private DMs. They have 0 reason to try and wait for this to die down. It just doesn't make sense to me for this to be the death blow .
PPP doing the women "me or discord" is gay
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im alot more suspicious with them obviously lying about all the other shit with the pedo shit now out there. but yeah if theres no proof you knew or participated they should be streaming, theres no real reason not to.
Hateocracy said:
All of this is pretty normal for online relationships. I'm not sure why anyone is either shocked, outraged or thought these two Canadians would be any different.
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the bad shit is the creepy pedo MM stuff. lying about not being degen when you obviously are when youre also trying to say you specifically didnt know about the pedo stuff is a really bad look.
 
I still have some suspicions as to whether this was coordinated to leak at this specific time because of Rekieta's Tuesday court date and the potential for the bodycam to come out soon. The gayops going on in that camp have been full force, and KC would have been covering the outcome of a possible major L in the Rekieta camp. It could be a coincidence but the timing is interesting.
 
Chazzed Up said:
I still have some suspicions as to whether this was coordinated to leak at this specific time because of Rekieta's Tuesday court date and the potential for the bodycam to come out soon. The gayops going on in that camp have been full force, and KC would have been covering the outcome of a possible major L in the Rekieta camp. It could be a coincidence but the timing is interesting.
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I think that's possible, but I think even if the show is in tatters, PPP would throw up a solo stream to talk about it at the very least. Not covering the Rekeita plea/no plea is just leaving money on the table and my man Ashton is the grift king.
 
MeltyTW said:
lying about not being degen when you obviously are when youre also trying to say you specifically didnt know about the pedo stuff is a really bad look.
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I don't disagree.

But part of the fault also falls upon the people making implausibly-positive character assessments about individuals dropping thousands of dollars a week onto an online drama show.

Chazzed Up said:
I still have some suspicions as to whether this was coordinated to leak at this specific time
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Between the election stream where the casino PRINTED money, the networking with other creators including but not limited to Paranormal fields, Rekieta's court date and the frankly damning coverage they've been doing on Rekieta that has decimated the original Balldo Guard....

...my cynic sense tells me someone(s) are a bit jealous of the Casinos recent successes.
 
Hateocracy said:
But part of the fault also falls upon the people making implausibly-positive character assessments about individuals dropping thousands of dollars a week onto an online drama show.
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im not saying that i just think ppp and andy knew outright or that theyre pedos, its just i have an issue with people who are as grifty as them trying to maintain some undue credibility by denying a bunch of smaller degeneracies while this is happening. i also think that undercuts their credibility for the more serious accusations. if they had said "we are a bunch of degens that did erp and fucked each others asses and we are basically rekieta without the child neglect" and id consider the drama nearly wrapped honestly.

there is a narrow sliver of a chance ppp and andy both are clean even of alot of these lesser degeneracies .... but no. theres a slightly bigger chance ppp maybe was more clean, but still probably no. im just very suspicious of them at this point which i think is more than fair.
 
Hateocracy said:
But part of the fault also falls upon the people making implausibly-positive character assessments about individuals dropping thousands of dollars a week onto an online drama show.
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This has been hashed out ITT many times already. Yes, anyone who paypigs to that extent probably is a creep. But as regards the hosts, even if one of them struggles with addiction, it's not an "implausibly-positive character assessment" to assume that they're not engaging in five-man Vegas coke orgies with black tranny prostitutes to fulfill said paypig's fetish. This is the same cope Destiny's fans have whenever he gets exposed for some new degeneracy - "Why are you acting shocked he got an eight-year old boy to show his penis on Skype, bro? He's always been open about being into into feet pics." There's clearly a difference in degree.
 
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Salvatore Leone said:
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Which one of these is a MM sockpuppet? My money is on tolerator or the fatchickthriller fellow.
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casino_tolerator has been their top paypig since the days of youtube, and maintained that vaunted position since they moved to kick. I have never seen this guy talk in chat even once, and only hear his name spoken when PPP and Warski call out another of his donos. I've yet to see any evidence tolerator is even an actual person, and I've half-suspected he's just a sock they used to give themselves money in order to encourage real donos ("wow this tolerator guy just gifted TWENTY subs! I better gift 25 subs to top him!"). But maybe he's Masochist's alt. Everything about what we've heard makes it sound as like Masochist is their chief paypig, yet you can see he's not even close to their #1 donator, which is strange. We know Pyscho's a real person, but who are the rest of these guys?
 
MeltyTW said:
there is a narrow sliver of a chance ppp and andy both are clean even of alot of these lesser degeneracies .... but no. theres a slightly bigger chance ppp maybe was more clean, but still probably no. im just very suspicious of them at this point which i think is more than fair.
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They both knew full well what they were getting into. The idea they were surprised or had no idea is complete BS. It would be bad enough if they were simply talking on discord only.

They went to Vegas with this guy and piped down nig nogs.
 
Chadmonk4421 said:
I don't know why this has to ruin the show, almost 3 year old PPP Messages and a faggy paypig shouldn't put this show in shambles. Tell Masochist to get a new name, and start the show tomorrow. Don't grandstand, don't feed trolls, find some new content, review death fats, Fishtank, actually do a this week in cuckada with the new Justin Trudeau videos he has been releasing, just whatever.

Guys, am I crazy? Who is watching kino casino for their upstanding moral character? The longest running jokes of the casino is that PPP showed his asshole and Andy is a coke head. I'm not watching these guys to gain moral insight. I'm watching these guys because they as a duo are funny Canadians. In fact with all this hot eyes on them, they should stream, and if they can make the next show a good one it'll only help them push towards escaping da sektur shit pit
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Probably won’t, I like the show, but it’s a KF thread it’s probably gonna have a fair few people having fun shitting on it. Dish it out when you can, and sometimes you take it.
 
SuffahWhorse said:
casino_tolerator has been their top paypig since the days of youtube, and maintained that vaunted position since they moved to kick. I have never seen this guy talk in chat even once, and only hear his name spoken when PPP and Warski call out another of his donos. I've yet to see any evidence tolerator is even an actual person, and I've half-suspected he's just a sock they used to give themselves money in order to encourage real donos ("wow this tolerator guy just gifted TWENTY subs! I better gift 25 subs to top him!"). But maybe he's Masochist's alt. Everything about what we've heard makes it sound as like Masochist is their chief paypig, yet you can see he's not even close to their #1 donator, which is strange. We know Pyscho's a real person, but who are the rest of these guys?
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Plot twist: casino_tolerator is actually a shared sock account that the discord paypigs use to obfuscate who's giving them money at any one time, presumably for shits and giggles related reasons.
 
Honestly I thought that the return would happen either this Tuesday or Wednesday, being that they needed really big news and content to distract from their own issues, and the Rekieta plea hearing on Tuesday would be major content. It still could be that day, and they are getting this discord/paypig death out of the way now so they can do a 30 minute spiel about TPD at the top of the show then move into the Rekieta news. If that happens I am not sure. But since Andy and PPP seem to be on the same page as of now, I doubt they are really fighting with each other and they have figured out some plan to move forward.

Balldo's Gate said:
Here's my take: the way PPP shows he understands the scale of the problem and fixes this is by firing Andy.
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Problem is he already tried this and in a stunning turn of events no one could run OBS as well as Andy. Persip failed, Squire Kino failed (too esoteric) and the Writers Room basically failed to be better than Andy Warski. Think about how badly you have to be at making content, clipping, and running OBS, to have Andy Warski do better than you to the point that the KC chat was filled with tomatoes and PPP was forced to concede that he couldn't do it without Andy.
 
Rodeo Roadrunner said:
Problem is he already tried this and in a stunning turn of events no one could run OBS as well as Andy. Persip failed, Squire Kino failed (too esoteric) and the Writers Room basically failed to be better than Andy Warski. Think about how badly you have to be at making content, clipping, and running OBS, to have Andy Warski do better than you to the point that the KC chat was filled with tomatoes and PPP was forced to concede that he couldn't do it without Andy.
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In the end it turns out that the rarest Gator of all was the one that could run OBS...
 
SuffahWhorse said:
casino_tolerator has been their top paypig since the days of youtube, and maintained that vaunted position since they moved to kick. I have never seen this guy talk in chat even once, and only hear his name spoken when PPP and Warski call out another of his donos. I've yet to see any evidence tolerator is even an actual person, and I've half-suspected he's just a sock they used to give themselves money in order to encourage real donos ("wow this tolerator guy just gifted TWENTY subs! I better gift 25 subs to top him!"). But maybe he's Masochist's alt. Everything about what we've heard makes it sound as like Masochist is their chief paypig, yet you can see he's not even close to their #1 donator, which is strange. We know Pyscho's a real person, but who are the rest of these guys?
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It is a casino afterall, money laundering is kinda what their best at
 
Douglas Mortimer said:
They both knew full well what they were getting into. The idea they were surprised or had no idea is complete BS. It would be bad enough if they were simply talking on discord only.

They went to Vegas with this guy and piped down nig nogs.
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i just think its important to fully cover it, that even in the very unlikely case that ppp or ppp and andy both just thought they were talking about felting people and pokemon cards and games or whatever that its still fair to be suspicious of them. i also dont really feel fully comfortable just saying they knew about the worst of it outright.
Rodeo Roadrunner said:
Problem is he already tried this and in a stunning turn of events no one could run OBS as well as Andy. Persip failed, Squire Kino failed (too esoteric) and the Writers Room basically failed to be better than Andy Warski. Think about how badly you have to be at making content, clipping, and running OBS, to have Andy Warski do better than you to the point that the KC chat was filled with tomatoes and PPP was forced to concede that he couldn't do it without Andy.
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is andy bad at obs? afaik hes good at some things, fiddling with streamer tech being one of them.
 
SuffahWhorse said:
casino_tolerator has been their top paypig since the days of youtube, and maintained that vaunted position since they moved to kick. I have never seen this guy talk in chat even once, and only hear his name spoken when PPP and Warski call out another of his donos. I've yet to see any evidence tolerator is even an actual person, and I've half-suspected he's just a sock they used to give themselves money in order to encourage real donos ("wow this tolerator guy just gifted TWENTY subs! I better gift 25 subs to top him!"). But maybe he's Masochist's alt. Everything about what we've heard makes it sound as like Masochist is their chief paypig, yet you can see he's not even close to their #1 donator, which is strange. We know Pyscho's a real person, but who are the rest of these guys?
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Well just checked out his Kick channel and apparently the guy does stream frequently. Not a big audience and this flew under the radar of most people. He does talk in his game play streams but have no idea if there is anything of interest.
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Balldo's Gate said:
If he deletes the Discord, what is the point of having him on as a cohost? Can anybody tell me what it is?
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Others have already beaten me to it, but...

Tech.

It's been a common refrain for MANY years that one thing Andy is genuinely good at is OBS. Before KC, PPP was doing shitty cellphone video streams.

But your point is well taken: PPP could easily replace Andy if that's all he's good for. Plenty of other people have their technical shit together when it comes to streaming, and I think most people here would agree that PPP is the more entertaining of the two hosts.
 
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