🐍 In the Clock Tower KingCobraJFS / Josh Saunders - Amateur musician, YouTube Streamer, wandmaker, and self-proclaimed "sexy goth badboy". Perpetually circling the drain.

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I know I'm not alone when I say that slideshow really tugged at the heartstrings. He loved his family. I wonder how many people's minds would be changed on him if they were to see those pictures.
 
Honestly makes me seriously MATI the way redditniggers and Youtube scum treated Josh. Even worse is the faux-moral justifications they would give, accusing him of being a pedo or murdering Puff, because they're too cowardly to just admit it makes them feel better about their own shitty sad pathetic lives to bully an alcoholic retarded guy. I hope it makes them seethe with rage that Josh was genuinely loved by countless people while they'll die forgotten with a festering axewound
 
Just finished watching the memorial video, and I don't even get what people are talking about when they say, "Clint made it about himself." Because he mentioned how Josh's trolls would fuck with him too? After the 10 minute intro, the whole thing was just a slideshow of family photos and stories about Josh. I enjoyed it, and honestly, it felt pretty uplifting after what's been a shitty couple of months.
 
Clint is a good guy for giving us closure. Kind of gay of me for tearing up during the send off. Anyone else notice that he mentioned at the begining that the a-logs were redditors? No mention of da ebil kiwi farms.
 
Yeah I was expecting the worst and agreed with that guy thinking it'd be a terrible artshow with terrible photoshops and penis music.
Instead, My opinion of Clint couldn't be possibly higher right now. I think it was a completely perfect video.
I thought it was really touching to hear Clint talk about all the well wishes and tributes he received on behalf of the community and that it made him realize Josh did have real fans that genuinely cared about his well being. The people who bullied and harassed Josh were always a very vocal minority. I'm glad Clint was maybe able to find some peace with that.

Also it was pretty funny hearing Clint say "L-O-L cows". :story:
 
Just finished watching the memorial video, and I don't even get what people are talking about when they say, "Clint made it about himself." Because he mentioned how Josh's trolls would fuck with him too? After the 10 minute intro, the whole thing was just a slideshow of family photos and stories about Josh. I enjoyed it, and honestly, it felt pretty uplifting after what's been a shitty couple of months.
he made parts of it relating to himself and his grieve of losing a child

it amazes me how dumb people are
 
Yeah I was expecting the worst and agreed with that guy thinking it'd be a terrible artshow with terrible photoshops and penis music.
Instead, My opinion of Clint couldn't be possibly higher right now. I think it was a completely perfect video.
It was lovely. His comment saying to the effect "I wanted to tell more stories but the video would have been over 2 hours" indicates that he wants to tell more stories. Combined with his comments that he had no idea how many fans Cobra had... It must have been a shock to him after all the trole abuse to have such an outpouring of support. The sad irony is that the only place on the internet that had any semblance of positive regard for the boy was the evil Kiwi website. I only discovered the boy in late 2023 and it took me months of searching for an online comunitty that wasn't toxic. Every single comment I wrote that was positively inclined on the now deleted subreddit was downvoted into oblivion (I'm glad to see the new subreddit is actually positive). The forum rules and thread format here prevent the kind of toxicity that existed in that awful subreddit.

I sincerely hope Clint decides to post more Josh stories in the future. The celebration stream was beautiful. Shoutout to Deathbed Tapes for solidifying his rockstar status, also Deathbed, if you read this thread, please do a special pre-order of the entire back catalogue of Cobra's albums. That would most definitely be what's up.
 
The urn fucked me up so bad. When my best friend died I got some of his ashes and I have a similar arrangement in my living room that I'm looking at right now, as do his parents at their place and now I just keep thinking about his dad. Think I'll text him right now and tell him how much I love them and loved their son. Fuck this shit man. I hope Clint finds some peace, it's the least that he deserves but the best he can hope for. It was truly incredible of him to take the time and energy to do this for Josh's fans. Rest in peace Cobes.
 
Clint is a good guy for giving us closure. Kind of gay of me for tearing up during the send off. Anyone else notice that he mentioned at the begining that the a-logs were redditors? No mention of da ebil kiwi farms.
He knows. Or not. But sort of.

I mean, he has an idea, when he's talking about the positive and loving reactions. Not sure if he's aware of KF or not per se, maybe he just doesn't wanna mention it, but he is aware, in spirit, or whatever you wanna call it. He knows now that it wasn't just troles. It was the first time he choked when he mentioned realizing how many fans he had.

It feels a bit wrong analyzing it like that, looking for recognition and maybe some kind of validation from a grieving father, but I do believe that where it matters he knows the trooth now and maybe it makes it a tad easier for him and the family. Whatever we feel, it must be a million times more difficult for them.
 
A truly beautiful and well deserved celebration of life. Just seeing all these pics from childhood, knowing how much he bonded with his dogs, and just how much he meant to his little sister made me cry many manly tears tonight. Very appropriate we had a thunderstorm tonight for the first time in weeks too.

Gonna miss this dude like crazy.
 
I mean, he has an idea, when he's talking about the positive and loving reactions. Not sure if he's aware of KF or not per se, maybe he just doesn't wanna mention it, but he is aware, in spirit, or whatever you wanna call it. He knows now that it wasn't just troles. It was the first time he choked when he mentioned realizing how many fans he had.
I don't think Clint would have ever come here. In the early days of my Cobra introduction I only came here out of desperation due to how fucked up the subreddit was. I was hesitant due to the sites reputation, but then I found the most positively inclined Cobra community that I had been missing all along. The irony.
he made parts of it relating to himself and his grieve of losing a child

it amazes me how dumb people are
He did make parts of it about the impact the troles had on his life, and that was needed context (18% btw), and prelude to the rest of the video. He explained how Cobra kept the family separate from his content because of the real world impact the troles were having on his life. Imagine having to explain to everyone you work with, considering the work Clint does, that if you tag him or reference him in work he's involved in, that it will draw unwanted attention from people who photoshoped him and his son having sex and distributed it around social media.

That is genuinely devestating for Clint. He couldn't operate freely as a creative (no matter what you think of the quality of his work). He had to forego public credit on collaborative works for years, which would have led to less opportunity for him. The fact he never forced Josh through economics to cease publishing content entirely is a credit to his respect for his son's autonomy.
 
Watched it live. Truly the best send off someone could ask for. It was touching and heartwarming seeing the family photos and hearing how proud his family was to have him in their lives.

Sadly I didn't have a drink combo ready but will tribute him with one tomorrow.

See you on the other side Sexy Gothic Bad Boy. I miss you Cobes and always will.
 
I don't think Clint would have ever come here. In the early days of my Cobra introduction I only came here out of desperation due to how fucked up the subreddit was. I was hesitant due to the sites reputation, but then I found the most positively inclined Cobra community that I had been missing all along. The irony.
You are right. Actually, your backstory regarding this site kinda reflects mine. I guess I was more about expressing like a sort of wishful thinking that in some way the overall sentiment present in this thread might have reached him. Then again, I'm having these desperate daydreams about Cobes himself experiencing all the celebration and good stuff he has inspired in the last month. Sorry if I wasn't clear, I'm many drink combos in.

That is genuinely devestating for Clint. He couldn't operate freely as a creative (no matter what you think of the quality of his work). He had to forego public credit on collaborative works for years, which would have led to less opportunity for him. The fact he never forced Josh through economics to cease publishing content entirely is a credit to his respect for his son's autonomy.
He had one hell of a difficult and unforgiving job making this work. People will continue to give him the usual bad dad, enabler, wanting-his-son-out-of-his life why-no-group-home shit, but fucking let them, it doesn't matter. He has proven his point, his feelings tonight. Said it a couple of times now, but best wishes to the Saunders family. I know it will get better for them, time has a way with that.
 
I was rewatching old MATI streams recently and appreciated being reminded of one time when Cobes crashed Null's computer so hard, he did a never before seen feat of imprinting his own image on a BSOD.
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Fly high, Josh, your magic was too powerful to be contained in this earthly realm.
 
Shed a few tears. Fly high Josh, play guitar in heaven within that tall clocktower built for you. Clint is an incredible father and I hope nothing but love and kindness is sent his way.

 
I guess I was more about expressing like a sort of wishful thinking that in some way the overall sentiment present in this thread might have reached him. Then again, I'm having these desperate daydreams about Cobes himself experiencing all the celebration and good stuff he has inspired in the last month. Sorry if I wasn't clear, I'm many drink combos in.
I get it, I've had that same kind of wishful thinking. Before learning about lolcow culture and 'not tapping the glass', I had strong feeling about reaching out to Cobra to try to help him (when I dropped in mid-stream to him drunk and upset about breaking his phone - at that time I had no idea that this was a recurring theme, I thought he dropped it or something). The more I learned the more it was apparent that any 'help' from the other side of the globe would likely be ineffective.

But after his death, you're left with a 'what if?', which I imagine a lot of fans feel. But if Clint couldn't do it, who could? The takeaway is that if you felt these feelings it means you have some humanity. Unlike the troles who tried to kill him from afar to satisfy their own sadism.

Clint's previous video announcing Josh's passing, he did mention that Josh did appreciate his fans and was aware that he had them. But I wonder if he got them twisted at times. I remember a stream where someone DoorDashed like... 3 handles of rotgut Vodka, and his response was 'some fan sent me this', but it was obvious to everyone watching they were trying to hurt him for their own entertainment.

In the pre-internet days, when you saw sadists ganging up and picking on retard you'd call your mates and belt the shit out of the tormentors.
 
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