🤮 Gross Kelly Ronahan - Vampire Munchie Who Destroyed Her Own Legs

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Lemon language said:
I agree with you on that and I have a theory. She may just be so psychotic that she doesn't feel the pain, or is in a dissociative state so that she doesn't recall doing it. I know KF's doesn't like to admit to the mental aspect of things in most cases of munchies but Kelly really is batshit. I know it's been stressed several times but the only thing that can truly help her at this point is if someone (a doctor preferably) commits her on suspicion that she is a direct threat to herself.

*Edited to say I can not find any articles supporting the link to psychosis numbing pain, but under psychosis, you would be more likely to inflict damage such as Kellys.*

information on a type of severe self-mutilation due to a type of schizophrenia

From the article:
"In contrast, major self-mutilation (MSM) is rare, usually only occurs in association with serious mental illness and often results in permanent loss of an organ or its function. The 3 main forms of MSM are ocular, genital, and limb mutilation. Patients who have removed an eye or cut off a limb are almost always psychotic, as are three-quarters of patients who severely injure their genitals. "

*Edited again to add the quote in case no one wants to read*
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lamp shade said:
I don’t think it matters much whether she feels pain or not. There’s an entire community that turns themselves into amputees because they feel like their limb(s) shouldn’t be a part of them. I don’t think kelly fits that group, but my point is that these people DO feel the pain but are so obsessed with removing the limb that it overrides their ability to think rationally and allows them to go through with it. She’s so obsessed with the attention and being a medical anomaly that she hyper focused on her legs and her goal is to do as much damage as possible and get as much attention as possible. There’s mentally ill patients who spend their days strapped to a bed so they don’t hurt themselves because they’re so batshit. Kelly is one of those that for some reason won’t be permanently strapped down.
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It's like the Venn diagram between those people & troons is a circle.
 
Viridian said:
I did a little layman's research of my own, and I found an interesting article concerning the frequency of self-harming behaviors (specifically self-harm acts not associated with suicide attempts) in people with borderline personality disorder:
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Her type of self injury would probably not count as NSSI due to the extreme nature of it. At least in the agencies I've been in we would never give her a NSSI specifier. One thing in BPD is that the self-injury is more for attention and manipulation then actual serious harm.
 
sootsprite said:
OH SWEET BABY JESUS

(I cannot emphasise this spoiler enough)

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I used to be on the fence about Kelly fucking with her legs. I think it's safe to say I'm now off the fence.
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This has officially pushed me beyond a comfort zone I no longer knew I had left. I'm sorry this isn't something insightful or funny, but this has just completely blown me the fuck away.
 
Ellesse_warrior said:
If we're throwing out theories how about delusional paracytosis? It's usually associated with people who think they have bugs under their skin or Morgellon's sufferers who think foreign objects are growing out of their skin just in Kelly's case every bump, lump or spot is bechets and she picks to get rid of it.
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If it was DoP then she wouldn't be calling it Behçets, she'd be railing at the Canadian healthcare system for not recognising her illness. I think she just has this compulsion to hurt herself - even assuming the Behçets is genuine and she did get some lesions on her legs, toes and fingers, she definitely fucked with them to make them this bad. The skin grafts took nicely, and now she's literally pulling "hard skin" off - yanking off scabs before the flesh underneath has had a chance to heal.
 
sootsprite said:
If it was DoP then she wouldn't be calling it Behçets, she'd be railing at the Canadian healthcare system for not recognising her illness. I think she just has this compulsion to hurt herself - even assuming the Behçets is genuine and she did get some lesions on her legs, toes and fingers, she definitely fucked with them to make them this bad. The skin grafts took nicely, and now she's literally pulling "hard skin" off - yanking off scabs before the flesh underneath has had a chance to heal.
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You don’t have to assume the Behcets is genuine. It all started as bruises, which were following an abuse storyline, then later became sores up and down her entire legs. She held her hand and probably toes too to a curling iron to burn them and picked them until they turned black. Once it was pointed out the necrotic sores could cause her to lose her legs to the hip, it suddenly became localized to her shins. Gina pointed out herself that there were no sores on Kelly’s back, where she can’t reach.

I know you probably don’t think there’s a chance it’s genuine and were just pointing out that she undoubtedly did harm regardless. I’m just saying we shouldn’t give Kelly a shred of credit on the Behcets diagnosis. She doesn’t have it. I agree with you that I think it’s a compulsion to hurt herself, ultimately for attention. She started with her arms and for some reason moved to her legs after a while.
 
I'm just eagerly waiting for Kelly to drop a whole text wall of every single disorder mentioned within the past few pages, to make it seem like her "haters" are attacking her for being mentally ill.
 
sootsprite said:
If it was DoP then she wouldn't be calling it Behçets, she'd be railing at the Canadian healthcare system for not recognising her illness. I think she just has this compulsion to hurt herself - even assuming the Behçets is genuine and she did get some lesions on her legs, toes and fingers, she definitely fucked with them to make them this bad. The skin grafts took nicely, and now she's literally pulling "hard skin" off - yanking off scabs before the flesh underneath has had a chance to heal.
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On Tumblr she pretended it was abuse. On Instagram, she pretended it was a disease.
The top photo is also very clearly photoshopped, and the bottom photo looks like she used cranberry juice in addition to punching herself. She doesn't have anything but munchausen.
 
I agree that she doesn't present as very BPDish. She occasionally mentions her sister or her friend/roommate/whatever she is, and that's about it. She wants/needs to have asspatters and attention, but it's not like she cares about specific commenters. She likes quantity of attention, not quality. She doesn't really talk much about her nurses/doctors/therapists in a BPD way. She doesn't seem to have really any people that she's close with. She doesn't appear to attach to people and subsequently fear being abandoned by them. That's not BPD.

I'm in the straight munchausen camp.
 
Pe0plesuck said:
sorry I kood kair less about my speling. Why in the ever gd fuck do you do this? I feel guilty for being sick. I don't know why you accuse me of fraud? Is it fun? I know it's not because I'm a fake. How fun! do you feel guilt for the nasty things you do? Think about it. Why ohhhhhh whyyyy would all of the doctors I see miss something a dumb fuck "figures out" on the internet. You should feel guilt, not me. yore your you're the crappy person here hear heer that should be riddled with guilt
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Kelly my question is why you just dont die
 
Gengar said:
Wait, doesn’t she have wound care nurses? If she does, wouldn’t they have intervened before she got to this point?
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I’m under the impression that that ended when her legs healed up perfectly fine since their job was finished. At this point it’s clear they realize she’s doing it to herself and as a result they probably didn’t provide her with more. This is just speculation though.
 
lamp shade said:
I’m under the impression that that ended when her legs healed up perfectly fine since their job was finished. At this point it’s clear they realize she’s doing it to herself and as a result they probably didn’t provide her with more. This is just speculation though.
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Yup, everything we get we get from Kelly, so it's an unreliable narrator situation. Who knows what the truth is?
 
GenociderSyo said:
Her type of self injury would probably not count as NSSI due to the extreme nature of it. At least in the agencies I've been in we would never give her a NSSI specifier. One thing in BPD is that the self-injury is more for attention and manipulation then actual serious harm.
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Agree that this may not count as NSSI the same way we'd see something like cutting--which she also used to do--because of the extreme nature and the motivation (which I'm on the fence as to whether it's to get attention/care/drugs or just to fuck herself up at this point).

I somewhat disagree with your second statement. The most common motivation for NSSI in BPD patients is actually emotion regulation; to deal with and alleviate intense negative emotions. These people hurt themselves primarily because they are in so much emotional pain that hurting themselves makes sense as a way to cope. Attention and manipulation (usually to prevent someone from abandoning them) is a common motivator that is often seen in BPD, but in my experience, it is more often seen in the form of suicide threats and gestures than NSSI.

Kelly very well may meet criteria for BPD but I'm not sure that's totally what's driving this... she's not like any borderline I've ever seen and this is my area of research interest & specialization. While they're a heterogeneous group, they all have the same basic problems and Kelly's a far outlier in regards to this group.
 
Aside from her history of self harm, the only thing that jumps out at me for BPD in Kelly is her history of troubled family/abuse.

I don't know what's diagnostically wrong with her, mentally, but it's beyond BPD.
 
sootsprite said:
Aside from her history of self harm, the only thing that jumps out at me for BPD in Kelly is her history of troubled family/abuse.

I don't know what's diagnostically wrong with her, mentally, but it's beyond BPD.
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More armchair diagnosing here, but she seems like a pathological liar.

"The difference between borderline personality disorder (BPD) and PF is that BPD patients desperately try to cope with their feeling of abandonment, mistreatment, or rejection by making empty threats of suicide or false accusations of abandonment. Pathological liars do not feel rejected; they have high levels of self-assurance that help them lie successfully. Unlike those with histrionic personality, pathological liars are more verbally dramatic than sexually flamboyant. Narcissists think they have achieved perfection and are unempathetic to others. PF patients do not show these anti-social behaviors; they often lie because they think their life is not interesting enough. "
 
summerandtempest said:
Agree that this may not count as NSSI the same way we'd see something like cutting--which she also used to do--because of the extreme nature and the motivation (which I'm on the fence as to whether it's to get attention/care/drugs or just to fuck herself up at this point).

I somewhat disagree with your second statement. The most common motivation for NSSI in BPD patients is actually emotion regulation; to deal with and alleviate intense negative emotions. These people hurt themselves primarily because they are in so much emotional pain that hurting themselves makes sense as a way to cope. Attention and manipulation (usually to prevent someone from abandoning them) is a common motivator that is often seen in BPD, but in my experience, it is more often seen in the form of suicide threats and gestures than NSSI.

Kelly very well may meet criteria for BPD but I'm not sure that's totally what's driving this... she's not like any borderline I've ever seen and this is my area of research interest & specialization. While they're a heterogeneous group, they all have the same basic problems and Kelly's a far outlier in regards to this group.
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It's cool to hear someone focuses on that and yes I may be mistaken since I only know what I've seen and BPD is not my speciality I focus more on dissociative disorders and severe disabilities concurrent with mental illness.
 
Factitious disorder would be my vote. That includes munchausens, but also all that other weird shit she he claimed. Munchies can be crazy extreme if they don't get what they want.
 
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