Orbiter Kat Speculation - With guest appearances by her sister, Jenna

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Guess Kat's weight.

  • >200 lbs.

    Votes: 22 3.5%

  • 200 lbs.-250 lbs.

    Votes: 125 20.0%

  • 250 lbs.- 300 lbs.

    Votes: 110 17.6%

  • Damn that's a huge bitch.

    Votes: 369 58.9%
  • Total voters
    626
Freshtodeath said:
Is there any way that Kat could take his house or the value of it from underneath him?
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Since that is technically her primary residence all she would have to do is pull a Fight Club, call the cops, Dave would throw a narc rage fit when they took him out that wouldn't do him any favors, and then she files a Domestic Violence Order of Protection. No property ownership changes hands but Dave is no longer allowed in his house (possibly even with a provision he has to continue mortgage payments and can't sell the house), primary use of the vehicle could be awarded to Kat, and Dave would have to have a police officer supervise if he went back to get his streaming equipment.
It happens to guys all the time who were clueless as to just how much power over them someone actually has just from being allowed to live in their home, and they end up saying, 'Bitch lives in my home with her new boyfriend and I legally can't sell the house.'
 
Prince Lotor said:
Since that is technically her primary residence all she would have to do is pull a Fight Club, call the cops, Dave would throw a narc rage fit when they took him out that wouldn't do him any favors, and then she files a Domestic Violence Order of Protection.
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Phil is a 100% pussy when faced with any conflict in real life. He would not throw any kind of fit at all, especially not with the police. Further, as he is the only name on the house, he could evict her. At worst, it might take some time depending on the tenant laws in WA, but the idea that she would get to chill in his house indefinitely is not based in reality.
 
Phil would probably evict Kat by hiring the most expensive locksmith in town to come round while she's out at work, then he just wouldn't answer the door when she comes back. He did nothing wrong, he did everything correct.
 
actually said:
Phil is a 100% pussy when faced with any conflict in real life. He would not throw any kind of fit at all, especially not with the police. Further, as he is the only name on the house, he could evict her. At worst, it might take some time depending on the tenant laws in WA, but the idea that she would get to chill in his house indefinitely is not based in reality.
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Wouldn’t eviction be based on having a contract of some sort? At that point, Kat would be more of a squatter than a tenant I would think.
 
BallBuster said:
Wouldn’t eviction be based on having a contract of some sort? At that point, Kat would be more of a squatter than a tenant I would think.
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Squatters' rights are a thing. http://www.landlordstation.com/blog/understanding-squatters-rights-in-washington/ That's the first link that comes up--looks like Kat wouldn't be a squatter since she's living there with Phil's consent. And here's how you evict a roommate who is not on the lease/mortgage: https://legalbeagle.com/10031735-evict-roommate-washington.html

So either way, there would have to be a legal proceeding unless Kat left voluntarily.
 
BallBuster said:
Wouldn’t eviction be based on having a contract of some sort? At that point, Kat would be more of a squatter than a tenant I would think.
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Assuming that she's kicking Phil a few shekels each month for whatever reason, that could constitute rent (or at least be argued that way. And, if that's the case, then it would be considered a month-to-month tenancy.

http://tenantsunion.org/en/rights/section/rental-agreements
1) Month-to-month rental agreements do not contain specific time limits. The tenancy continues until one party or the other issues a notice to vacate or terminate tenancy of 20 days written notice given before the rent is due. (Seattle tenants have Just Cause Eviction Protection that requires landlords to give more notice in some cases and restricts terminations of tenancy to 18 “Just Cause” reasons.) Month-to-month tenancies can be verbal or written. Verbal rental agreements are legal in Washington State and are considered to be month-to-month tenancies. If your landlord takes any kind of deposit or nonrefundable fee from you, the rental agreement must be in writing and state the terms and conditions under which your money is refundable.
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actually said:
Squatters' rights are a thing. http://www.landlordstation.com/blog/understanding-squatters-rights-in-washington/ That's the first link that comes up--looks like Kat wouldn't be a squatter since she's living there with Phil's consent. And here's how you evict a roommate who is not on the lease/mortgage: https://legalbeagle.com/10031735-evict-roommate-washington.html

So either way, there would have to be a legal proceeding unless Kat left voluntarily.
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Great find. Though regardless, it would be a drawn out proceding. The whole eviction process is insane. It can sometimes take a year+ to remove someone from a home.
 
Faded said:
Theory:

Kat and Dave are now broken up. prove me wrong.
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I don't think Kat makes enough money from her generic job to live on her own. I also think if they were broken up, Phil wouldn't talk about her at all and do his usual ignore real topics he doesn't want to address.

But, I think they are a couple in name only, which I also think is the only thing Phil cares about. He just wants a trophy girlfriend, even if the trophy is the Kentucky Derby, and it seems like she just wants a place to live and play Overwatch when she isn't at the gym. Something like this is honestly best case scenario for Phil. He gets to feel like a successful adult, because in his simplistic world view if you have a girlfriend, you're winning, whether or not the relationship is healthy or you even care about the other person and vice versa. In reality, they are at most roommates, depending on whether Kat actually contributes anything. It isn't even a case of having a mooching friend, it seems like they're virtually strangers, share almost no interests and do the bare minimum together like go grocery shopping and eat dinner.

I guess the tl;dr is they're probably still together in name only, but realistically do nothing as a couple and have no interest in one another outside of whatever parasitic gains they get.
 
I am still under the impression that she is using him for something. Some way or another she will get something out of this, whether that is money, his house, or whatever. The reason I believe this, is Kat's secretive nature. We no longer see what is downstairs, what dsp is buying, kat arrived with no possessions. It is all just very strange. Plus DSP is like easiest person in world to con.
 
ReentryPhantom said:
Kat found his phone for him like 3-4 days ago while he was streaming. I still don't think Kat will be on stream any time soon after the Jeff stuff.
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Just because you say someone helped you find something is not concrete proof it happened. The other day Dora the Explorer said I helped her find the waterfall and that was factually incorrect.
 
Freshtodeath said:
I am still under the impression that she is using him for something. Some way or another she will get something out of this, whether that is money, his house, or whatever. The reason I believe this, is Kat's secretive nature. We no longer see what is downstairs, what dsp is buying, kat arrived with no possessions. It is all just very strange. Plus DSP is like easiest person in world to con.
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How would she be able to get the house, or anything that was bought with Phil's money for that matter? Phil has no intentions of getting married or having kids so I fail to see how she would get that con to work.
 
Wing Zero said:
How would she be able to get the house, or anything that was bought with Phil's money for that matter? Phil has no intentions of getting married or having kids so I fail to see how she would get that con to work.
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gonna be alone when he dies, noone gonna be there to mourn him as they put him in the ground. just the gravedigger thinking what a poor fool this guy mustve been and how he pities him
 
Wing Zero said:
Phil has no intentions of getting married or having kids so I fail to see how she would get that con to work.
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Apparently Phil mentioned marrying Kat earlier this month, back when he was still riding his tutankhamunnn high.

I think @Surly Muppet was the only one that really remembered him talking about it

Surly Muppet said:
In other news, his mention of the earlier prestream of his potential to marry Kat and his revisiting how awesome she is this evening lead me to ponder if, as some of us were guessing earlier this year, he was manufacturing some desperation to drum up money for an engagement ring. I bet he's getting his ducks in a row to get one for a Very Special Christmas Proposal. It won't be revealed until after the tax begging in December, but I bet by January, we'll be heading into the Legitimate Engagement Saga.
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I have always been amazed by the fact that 2 girls actually contacted this internet person (noting they would have to have been aware his notable negative following) with the view of pursuing a relationship with him

I would imagine few girls would consider him very attractive - so obviously the money would be a big draw card... But with Kat, she would've been aware of the tax claims / going "out of business" / lose the house rants

Maybe she's found a better option...or got what she wanted and can now exit. Not v hard in the circumstances
 
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