💊 Manosphere Jordan Peterson - Internet Daddy Simulator, Post-modern Anti-postmodernist, Canadian Psychology Professor, Depressed, Got Hooked on Benzos

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Not entirely on topic, but do not underestimate the amount of sheer suffering caused by akathisia -- especially in disrupting sleep; though I am well aware that the mere description ("almost uncontrollable need to move/feeling of wanting to burst out of one's skin that is partially relieved by motion") makes it sound trivial.

It is a side effect of benzo withdrawal, anxiety, or (usually) long-term (usually) first-generation antipsychotic use. Or opiate withdrawal (so it is I guess a sympathetic response).
 
The "JP ruined an entire generation of men" take seems to be gaining traction among the usual suspects. Was he really that popular, or is this just a butthurt rejoinder to "Scott Pilgrim ruined an entire generation of women"?
He was pretty damn popular, yeah

Random people who don't spend much time on the internet know who he is. Although I suppose his footprint is probably biggest in Canada, US and NL (due to him selling courses to a university in Rotterdam).

After all he did almost a full media circuit, including Maher's show and a number of BBC programs.

I don't think he changed much though.
 
The "JP ruined an entire generation of men" take seems to be gaining traction among the usual suspects. Was he really that popular, or is this just a butthurt rejoinder to "Scott Pilgrim ruined an entire generation of women"?
At best, he was merely a symptom of bigger, more systemic problems within modern Western society. I really doubt he caused anything, he's just a media personality at the end of the day, albeit with a somewhat more intellectual bent than most. Anybody who says otherwise is looking for as easy target to pin everything on.
 
The "JP ruined an entire generation of men" take seems to be gaining traction among the usual suspects. Was he really that popular, or is this just a butthurt rejoinder to "Scott Pilgrim ruined an entire generation of women"?
That is just hyperbole from people who only know him from his hot takes on pronouns. Their dislike of him is almost entirely predicated on their awareness of his popularity with a political demographic they despise and think themselves at war with.

He was a mild mannered academic in Canada who had right-of-center politics who stumbled into international fame by accident. The kind of advice he dispensed to young men is nearly identical with what any professional offering therapy would say to a young man feeling alienated, unattractive, and lost. Outside angry troons, lobster memes, and pearl clutching about totalitarian ghosts, he was a milquetoast boomer that is essentially indistinguishable from his age demographic.

That soulless automaton of a daughter though, that is what everyone should be opposed to.
 
That is just hyperbole from people who only know him from his hot takes on pronouns. Their dislike of him is almost entirely predicated on their awareness of his popularity with a political demographic they despise and think themselves at war with.

He was a mild mannered academic in Canada who had right-of-center politics who stumbled into international fame by accident. The kind of advice he dispensed to young men is nearly identical with what any professional offering therapy would say to a young man feeling alienated, unattractive, and lost. Outside angry troons, lobster memes, and pearl clutching about totalitarian ghosts, he was a milquetoast boomer that is essentially indistinguishable from his age demographic.

That soulless automaton of a daughter though, that is what everyone should be opposed to.
I don't like agreeing with people. I prefer to beef. But I agree with you. Vehemently.

I must constantly "check my beef." It's like "checking your privilege," but slightly less faggy. When I experience the strange sensation of liking something, I ask: why does this appeal to me? When I hate something, I examine it. I love ruminating on things I hate.

I've listened to JP on a podcast, read a few chapters of a book he wrote, generally dismissed his entire body of work as something I have no interest at all in. He is a boring dweeb. cannot take him seriously as a man, and he has nothing to say about masculinity. Nothing. The only interesting thing he ever did was get hooked on benzos, and then kick 'em wrong. Yet I...feel an abstract fondness for him. This is why:

There is an unnamed phenomenon where a thing is despised not on its own merits, but because of the thing's fans. It applies to everything, from videogames, to dweebish Canadian academics. There is a related phenomenon, where a thing is liked not on its own merits, but because of the people who hate it.

My suspicion is these twin phenomena are part of the status-seeking monkey game we humans play. People perpetually signal which group of retards they belong to (or want to belong to) and struggle to maximize their social capital within that group. Hating something becomes an act of allegiance.

JP, by articulating anodyne Boomer discomfort with kids-these-days (or hate-criming twans folx reeeee), became a concentrated point to observe these phenomena in action. The people that hate him do so because the wrong people don't. The people that like him may claim that his message about washing your dick and cleaning your room resonates, but really they just like that he upsets people and they feel he targets people they don't like.

Every once in a while, though, I encounter someone so despicable, and so ghoulish, I am able to dislike them on their own merits. JP's daughter falls into that category.
 
The "JP ruined an entire generation of men" take seems to be gaining traction among the usual suspects. Was he really that popular, or is this just a butthurt rejoinder to "Scott Pilgrim ruined an entire generation of women"?
"Scott Pilgrim ruined an entire generation of women" itself was just a mockery of "Scott Pilgrim ruined an entire generation of men" tweet that went viral on woke twitter. "X ruined an entire generation of men" became a meme phrase others tried to use to complain and go viral, until NegativeXP's song became popular and killed the trend. This is the first time I see this phrase return since then.

I don't like agreeing with people. I prefer to beef. But I agree with you. Vehemently.

I must constantly "check my beef." It's like "checking your privilege," but slightly less faggy. When I experience the strange sensation of liking something, I ask: why does this appeal to me? When I hate something, I examine it. I love ruminating on things I hate.

I've listened to JP on a podcast, read a few chapters of a book he wrote, generally dismissed his entire body of work as something I have no interest at all in. He is a boring dweeb. cannot take him seriously as a man, and he has nothing to say about masculinity. Nothing. The only interesting thing he ever did was get hooked on benzos, and then kick 'em wrong. Yet I...feel an abstract fondness for him. This is why:

There is an unnamed phenomenon where a thing is despised not on its own merits, but because of the thing's fans. It applies to everything, from videogames, to dweebish Canadian academics. There is a related phenomenon, where a thing is liked not on its own merits, but because of the people who hate it.

My suspicion is these twin phenomena are part of the status-seeking monkey game we humans play. People perpetually signal which group of retards they belong to (or want to belong to) and struggle to maximize their social capital within that group. Hating something becomes an act of allegiance.

JP, by articulating anodyne Boomer discomfort with kids-these-days (or hate-criming twans folx reeeee), became a concentrated point to observe these phenomena in action. The people that hate him do so because the wrong people don't. The people that like him may claim that his message about washing your dick and cleaning your room resonates, but really they just like that he upsets people and they feel he targets people they don't like.

Every once in a while, though, I encounter someone so despicable, and so ghoulish, I am able to dislike them on their own merits. JP's daughter falls into that category.
I agree on pretty much everything. Peterson is very boring, and even cult of personality surrounding him is not any more annoying than an average vocal fanbase. His daughter and her baby daddy are far more interesting.
 
The "JP ruined an entire generation of men" take seems to be gaining traction among the usual suspects. Was he really that popular, or is this just a butthurt rejoinder to "Scott Pilgrim ruined an entire generation of women"?
His opinions are so bland I don't see him radically changing anything.
 
The "JP ruined an entire generation of men" take seems to be gaining traction among the usual suspects. Was he really that popular, or is this just a butthurt rejoinder to "Scott Pilgrim ruined an entire generation of women"?
His 2018 book sold several million copies so he was well poised to gain a lot of traction but his benzo escapades killed off whatever momentum he may have had. His thot daughter certainly didn’t help things either. Nobody really talks about him anymore except the occasional wash your penis jokes.
 
Does anyone keep up with Mikhaila? I wonder what shenanigans she's up to now.
Edit: found this on reddit

Mikhaila Peterson saga - stranger than fiction?​

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Sorry guys. You've got it all wrong. Let's try to put the pieces together casue this is a glorious mess, reality far stranger than fiction and far more crazy than any drugged scrren writer could ever came up with.
She was hooking up with demon-possesed russian guy, called Andrey Korikov (check out his instagram, last picture is pure gold). Since Mikhaila stopped taking pill and kept having sex....she got knocked up after few months of dating. These two married wnen Mikhaila was 9 month pregnant due to intense pressure from her family. In her podcast, she declared she never wanted any of this to happen, but at the time felt she has no other choice (she couldn't bring herself to abort it, and being a single mother was unacceptable in Jordan Peterson's household). Funny thing, Andrey russian family hated her with passion and was strongly oppose them getting married.
Once married, couple moved to a penthause in downtown Toronto that Jordan has purchased for Mikhaila. During this time Mikhaila was managing Jordan's calendar and was his only point of contact with external world, as she said it "no-one could reach my father without passing through me". She declared herself to be a CEO of his company and also pretended to be him when running his twitter, instagram and other social media channels while he was drifting away from reality into a benzo haze.
After few months of marriage, Mikhaila kicked her husband out of the house. Since Andrey is also on Jordan's payroll, he would visit his ex wife evey day and do the work for her, while also begging to take him back. Meanwhile Mikhaila declared on social media that she and her husband has negotiated separation. While flooding the instagram feed with series of selfies in her underwear, with crawling toddler in the background. It seems that it's the instagram where she met Andrew Tate, who helped her to prepare and sell her subscription program called "Lion's Lair" - for only 600 dollars per year you could get access to Mikhaila and receive daily advises on how to eat nothing but beef, what a treat. Seriously, google this Andrew Tate's guy- he is even crazier than her. He is british, ex mma fighter and big brother participant, he fled Police from UK to Romania (not sure what was it about- taxes, domestic violence or other offences). In Romania, he made a living by engaging in human trafficking and selling subscription programs of "how to be a man" while driving rented Porshe. Mikhaila was clearly impressed by him, becasue she left her baby and ex husband in order to hook up with Tate in Romania. She was already planning on moving to Romania and shared those plans via her social media. Apperently it didnt work out between them, because she came back to Canada, declaring that she and Tate are not a couple but he is a good man.
After full year of simping, Mikhaila's separated husband, Andrey, decided to give her what she wanted. He agreed to find a hospital in Moscow that will put Jordan Peterson in medically induced coma. Mikhaila happily took him back, packed her kid and barely conscious father and headed to Russia. For a year and half, four of them was traveling between Russia, Florida and Serbia. It's in Serbia where Mikhaila went partyng laughing off the covid scare, contracted covid, passed it to her dad which almost killed him, and then blamed it on her toddler ("my child must have caught the covid on the playground and passed it to the rest of the family").
After traveling, partying and experimenting with drugs (Mikhaila is advertising thai drug called Kratom and fed her father with it while he was recovering) the family moved back to Canada. Mikhaila left her brain-damaged dad with her mother, Tammy, to be his care giver for life. She herself moved back to her penthouse with husband and child and started her career of a podcaster. It seems she was also pregant with her second child and gave birth this summer, but unlike with the first born, she is hiding the toddler from her social media and pretending it doesnt exist.
Lockdown was imposed on Canada due to another wave of covid. Staying locked in appartment with her husband and children made Mikhaila suffer greatly, so she packed them up and went partying again, first to Saudi Arabia, then Croatia and finally to Russia. In Moscow she has caught covid again (this time Delta variant). She went back to Canada, not sure whether she has passed it again to her dad or not.
As of lately, Mikhaila is divorcing her husband and is back on Tinder. What is more surprising, she is also moving to US, precisely to Nashville. After giving TED talk there she believes her career is finally taking off and she can become proper influencer. She is also finishing writing her autobiography. What do you think will be the next twist of this crazy saga?
 
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Jordan's whole shit on chaos dragons, matriarchy of darkness and enforced monogamy is clearly a projection of his whore daughter towards the rest of the population. Especially with him being a shut-in now.
 
Jordan's whole shit on chaos dragons, matriarchy of darkness and enforced monogamy is clearly a projection of his whore daughter towards the rest of the population. Especially with him being a shut-in now.

And probably his wife too. On the stage he could act like alpha male professor or whatever he wanted to portray during his media blitz a few years ago but at his home he was probably as quiet as a church mouse with his wife and daughter running the show. He is definitely a shy man, even though he tried to cover it up it's rather easy to spot his lack of confidence.

don't think his marriage is a very happy one and his daughter is pretty much his puppet master at this point.
 
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He says he feels like he's healthy again and honestly he sounds like it. Good for him. He sounds like his old waffly and teary eyed self.

But I had to clip it at this moment because he is going to have a talk at oxford at the same day his daughter has a talk at oxford which is "ridiculously improbable".

What a serendipitous accident! :story:
 
I understand JP speaking at Oxford.

But why his daughter?... Oxford is a bit above "Hi I'm a fucking unstable whore and I only eat beef. Ask me anything?"
 
https://youtube.com/watch?v=q4zZ2ker1iI:1826
He says he feels like he's healthy again and honestly he sounds like it. Good for him. He sounds like his old waffly and teary eyed self.

But I had to clip it at this moment because he is going to have a talk at oxford at the same day his daughter has a talk at oxford which is "ridiculously improbable".

What a serendipitous accident! :story:

He looks like a homeless meth addict in the thumbnail.
 
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