💊 Manosphere Jordan Peterson - Internet Daddy Simulator, Post-modern Anti-postmodernist, Canadian Psychology Professor, Depressed, Got Hooked on Benzos

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Man his daughter is a piece of work. Is this the poop bun for thots or something? I've suddenly started seeing it everywhere, and always on the trashiest person in sight- the kind of woman to be wearing pants with words on the butt to Costco in 2021.
It's a variation of the Karen hairstyle. It's the Karen hairstyle for bratty-type chicks in their 20s before they fully devolve into trueblood karens in their 40s. This same kind of bitch spent the entirety of high school eating Takis loudly and drinking Arizonas with nail extensions.
 
Not sure what the truth is in this situation. Peterson also would say he wasn't on anything when people brought up how erratic he was before he disclosed his addiction. And his daughter's a little messed up herself, she needs her father to still be relevant to get big money, so it wouldn't surprise me if this video was b.s. Or maybe it's as simple as schizo was one of the possible diagnoses, the press went with that because it was inflammatory, and she's defending her father because it wasn't the actual ending diagnosis.

What is certain is a lot of people are working hard to defend Peterson. His daughter I understand, but the right is still going hard to defend him when someone else in this situation would be cut off from the right. A psychologist whose got a prescription pad abusing Benzos? Any time someone on the right in the public eye's skeleton is exposed, they are cut off to protect the system. But Peterson they all defend. Makes me wonder what it is - the money he can generate for those around him, the GOP power players like him, the conspiracy stuff about his work with the U.N., they need him around to distract and pacify the young right wingers, or they just like him.
 
Holy shit it's confirmed now that Peterson was diagnosed as a schizo since 2019, it was pretty obvious he isn't even half the man he was in 2015/2016 nowadays. It would explain why he was saying such weird stuff and why he was acting so weird sometimes.

Jordan Peterson says he was suicidal, addicted to benzos and has schizophrenia

russian psychiatrists diagnose everybody with schizophrenia. their pharmacopoeia is also super strange, its like some real alice in wonderland shit.
 
Is there a such a thing as "mild schizophrenia?" Because he doesn't seem like the schizos I am/was familiar with. It could be possible that he's on antipsychotic meds for it, but they make you so slow, dim-witted, and fat that I don't feel he fits that profile either.

Personally I think he's not schizo but has brain damage from the weird shit he did to try and get off his benzos. Benzos can take years of withdrawal to get off of and permanently alter your brain in a negative way, so I think his blandness and mild slowness fits that more than schizophrenia.

Also how is his wife doing? She's still alive, I'm assuming? Is her cancer in remission or is she still dying? I read about how a procedure they tried almost failed but then seemed to work, a while back. If she's still alive, how is she dealing with his drug addiction/withdrawal, I wonder.

I think he's borderline. It would also explain him being suicidal.
 
I think he's borderline. It would also explain him being suicidal.
I think Mikhaila is the one with borderline. Or some type of cluster B anyway. Jordan strikes me as someone with obsessive compulsive traits, probably compounded with a mood disorder, potentially bipolar type 2. I'm no doctor or psychologist (I am a nurse, though) but if Jordan had borderline, I think we'd see a lot more occupational and relational instability. Like being fired from his job, unexpectedly quitting, break-ups here and there... getting back together, etc. Like you see with Mikhaila.
 
Makes me wonder what it is - the money he can generate for those around him, the GOP power players like him, the conspiracy stuff about his work with the U.N., they need him around to distract and pacify the young right wingers, or they just like him.
wtf lmao. Ur funny.

He was diagnosed in public hospital in Canada

Honestly the diagnosis of Mikhalia and Peterson have been going on for like 60 pages. Neither Jordan nor Mikahalia are being honest 100% with anybody here AND we have not yet seen a document from a doctor, named and signed, so we don't know the degree of bending of the truth. "My doctor told me... My benzos... Now I'm a schizo" blah blah. All hearsay from doctors.

My guess would be a narcissistic collapse. It fits, since his erratic behaviour appeared because of the constant social media critisism, plus the suicidal behaviour and the sort of "psycotic" behavioural elements. Oh well... who knows.
 
He did get fired from his job at the University of Toronto. His obsessiveness seems to come from a place of Paranoia (cold war, intense fear of communism). In one clip he even began to cry when talking about ''young people going towards communism''. Though he isn't manipulative (that would be his daughter) he does exhibit the black and white thinking you see in a borderline. He is definitely an extreme thinker in the way he imagines a set of scenarios that are so far out of line with reality or totally misinterprets the situation.
 
He is definitely an extreme thinker in the way he imagines a set of scenarios that are so far out of line with reality or totally misinterprets the situation.
Basically paranoid schizophrenia. It's in the name "schizm" of the mind where the person doesn't live in reality.

To clarify some missconceptions, psychotic breaks can happen at any stage in life given the right circumstances and the right personality backgroud. The thing is they are most common in adolesence because of the extreme new enviroment outside the control of the parents + the hormones. But if you are not familiar with the digi thread, we believe there he suffered at 29 a bit of a psychotic break from 5 days of pure pot haze plus his new relationship woes.

People can have schizoid traits without being full schizo though. You can see that everywhere in AnH lol. As for Peterson, it's hard to separate the grifting, the lies and the truth of a man suffering.
 
Holy shit it's confirmed now that Peterson was diagnosed as a schizo since 2019, it was pretty obvious he isn't even half the man he was in 2015/2016 nowadays. It would explain why he was saying such weird stuff and why he was acting so weird sometimes.

Jordan Peterson says he was suicidal, addicted to benzos and has schizophrenia

They corrected the title, he doesn't have schizophrenia
The Times reported that he was diagnosed with schizophrenia around this time. But Peterson subsequently released full audio of the interview to show that Mikhaila said he was misdiagnosed with several conditions, including schizophrenia.
 
Basically paranoid schizophrenia. It's in the name "schizm" of the mind where the person doesn't live in reality.

To clarify some missconceptions, psychotic breaks can happen at any stage in life given the right circumstances and the right personality backgroud. The thing is they are most common in adolesence because of the extreme new enviroment outside the control of the parents + the hormones. But if you are not familiar with the digi thread, we believe there he suffered at 29 a bit of a psychotic break from 5 days of pure pot haze plus his new relationship woes.

People can have schizoid traits without being full schizo though. You can see that everywhere in AnH lol. As for Peterson, it's hard to separate the grifting, the lies and the truth of a man suffering.

Anyone can suffer a psychotic break at any point in their life, yes. But you have to look at what's induced the psychosis, and in Peterson's case, it appears to have been a result of his substance abuse/drug withdrawal, i.e. an organic psychosis. If you are unfamiliar with the person's medical history, an organic psychosis can closely resemble an active phase of schizophrenia.

Also, schizoid traits =/= symptoms of paranoia/delusions/hallucinations. In psychiatry, schizoid traits are defined as extreme affective flatness, a lack of desire for close relationships, and oddly enough, a stable mood with no tops or downs. Schizoid personality disorder is a separate disorder and these people are not psychotic or at risk of developing schizophrenia.

A friendly reminder not to conflate unrelated conditions from a Kiwi med-sperg. ;)

EDIT: I can't diagnose, obviously, but from what I have seen of him he appears to have some paranoid traits, some obsessive-compulsive traits, some narcissistic traits, some form of mood disorder (could be a genetic vulnerability), and a (likely also genetic) propensity for addiction which could all be managed in a vacuum but compounded with certain high-level life stressors are nigh-impossible to treat.
 
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They corrected the title, he doesn't have schizophrenia
No shit. A clinical criteria of Schizophrenia is onset btw the ages of 16-30. A man who has had continued western medical care his entire adult life does not suddenly get diagnosed with schizophrenia in his late 50’s, esp not one with a tenured career in academia and degree in psychology. He’s got some deep seated issues but the idea he’s schizophrenic is absurd.

He is definitely one of those dudes who went into psychology to try and figure out his own neurotic issues and problems....and failed hard.
 
EDIT: I can't diagnose, obviously, but from what I have seen of him he appears to have some paranoid traits, some obsessive-compulsive traits, some narcissistic traits, some form of mood disorder (could be a genetic vulnerability), and a (likely also genetic) propensity for addiction which could all be managed in a vacuum but compounded with certain high-level life stressors are nigh-impossible to treat.
Lmao, at this point you might as well add hypocondriac. But seriously. Diagnosing anyone online is silly. Most of the shit we get is filtered down through Mikahlia and Peterson was never objective or maybe truthful.
 
No shit. A clinical criteria of Schizophrenia is onset btw the ages of 16-30. A man who has had continued western medical care his entire adult life does not suddenly get diagnosed with schizophrenia in his late 50’s, esp not one with a tenured career in academia and degree in psychology. He’s got some deep seated issues but the idea he’s schizophrenic is absurd.
Yes, the vast majority of schizos (and psych disorders) are diagnosed in puberty and early adulthood, especially in males, and people claiming this of a 50-something year old always makes me extremely doubtful. That being said, it does happen, though rarely. It's called late-onset schizophrenia:
CONCLUSIONS: In terms of epidemiology, symptom profile, and identified pathophysiologies, the diagnoses of late-onset schizophrenia (illness onset after 40 years of age) and very-late-onset schizophrenia-like psychosis (onset after 60 years) have face validity and clinical utility. General adoption of these categories will foster systematic investigation of such patients.
Source: https://ajp.psychiatryonline.org/doi/full/10.1176/appi.ajp.157.2.172

Psychology definitely attracts people with mental problems.
He did get fired from his job at the University of Toronto.
I don't remember hearing that he got fired from the University of Toronto, though. When did this happen? I tried to find it in a search engine but nothing really came up.
 
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Yes, the vast majority of schizos (and psych disorders) are diagnosed in puberty and early adolescence, especially in males, and people claiming this of a 50-something year old always makes me extremely doubtful. That being said, it does happen, though rarely. It's called late-onset schizophrenia:

Source: https://ajp.psychiatryonline.org/doi/full/10.1176/appi.ajp.157.2.172

Psychology definitely attracts people with mental problems.

I don't remember hearing that he got fired from the University of Toronto, though. When did this happen? I tried to find it in a search engine but nothing really came up.

Someone mentioned in this thread he experienced psychosis at 29. Maybe this all has been going on for many years.
 
Someone mentioned in this thread he experienced psychosis at 29. Maybe this all has been going on for many years.
"Someone mentioned in this thread" is no indicator of factual information. There's a lot of stupid, erroneous shit in this thread, posted by people who only know about Peterson by second- or thirdhand means, upon which they jump to conclusions and form baseless opinions.

I don't recall any mentions that he had experienced psychosis in his late 20s. Surely, his detractors would be all over that if he actually had. So I call bullshit on that one, unless you can provide evidence otherwise.

That said, Peterson has no chill. He's struggled with depression, but he's always struck me as somebody with a chronic anxiety. Even in his early lectures, before he became famous, he comes off as intense and high-strung, and emotionally kind of fragile, and that only got magnified once he was in the spotlight.

When his daughter was ill as a kid, I suspect it was his wife who was "the rock"--the one who handled all the day-to-day, hands-on, practical matters of caring for a chronically-ill child. From what I've seen of her, she's definitely the more grounded, relaxed, and thus adaptable, of the two. Shit, she'd have to be, to be married to him; I don't think he's a bad guy, but I cannot imagine him being an easy person to live with, much less stay married to.

So when the family "rock" got hit with a rare cancer, and was horribly ill, and it looked like she was going to die, Peterson's always-present baseline level of anxiety shot through the roof. I suspect he'd always relied on Tammy to keep him on the rails, and when she couldn't do that, he fell apart. He needed more benzos to keep him functioning, and his daughter stepped in to fill the role of "the rock," which she's still performing for him to this day.

I don't believe he's Borderline (LOL, seriously, no), or Bipolar. My own armchair diagnosis has long been anxiety, which his wife helped keep in check by buffering him from too much reality, and now his daughter's taken on that job.
 
People who defend Peterson so fervently could probably have their own thread.

I like Peterson, but his internet children get bent out of shape if he's criticized and it's pretty cringe.
 
He did get fired from his job at the University of Toronto. His obsessiveness seems to come from a place of Paranoia (cold war, intense fear of communism). In one clip he even began to cry when talking about ''young people going towards communism''. Though he isn't manipulative (that would be his daughter) he does exhibit the black and white thinking you see in a borderline. He is definitely an extreme thinker in the way he imagines a set of scenarios that are so far out of line with reality or totally misinterprets the situation.
Are they really crazy scenarios when they are things that actually happened a few decades ago?
 
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