💊 Manosphere Jordan Peterson - Internet Daddy Simulator, Post-modern Anti-postmodernist, Canadian Psychology Professor, Depressed, Got Hooked on Benzos

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I'd be nice not to see the schizo in my recommended section for anything right of center
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The man known as Rust Cohle from True Detective has a deep, philosophical discussion with JBP about being Dazed and Confusedwhile cleaning his own room :smug:
 
Is there a such a thing as "mild schizophrenia?" Because he doesn't seem like the schizos I am/was familiar with. It could be possible that he's on antipsychotic meds for it, but they make you so slow, dim-witted, and fat that I don't feel he fits that profile either.

Personally I think he's not schizo but has brain damage from the weird shit he did to try and get off his benzos. Benzos can take years of withdrawal to get off of and permanently alter your brain in a negative way, so I think his blandness and mild slowness fits that more than schizophrenia.

Also how is his wife doing? She's still alive, I'm assuming? Is her cancer in remission or is she still dying? I read about how a procedure they tried almost failed but then seemed to work, a while back. If she's still alive, how is she dealing with his drug addiction/withdrawal, I wonder.
 
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Holy shit it's confirmed now that Peterson was diagnosed as a schizo since 2019, it was pretty obvious he isn't even half the man he was in 2015/2016 nowadays. It would explain why he was saying such weird stuff and why he was acting so weird sometimes.

Jordan Peterson says he was suicidal, addicted to benzos and has schizophrenia ​

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Jordan Peterson says he was suicidal, addicted to benzos

Jordan Peterson in a new interview described his spiral into drug addiction and suicidal thoughts — and then undergoing a controversial Russian treatment that placed him into an induced coma …
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Okay so this pretty much confirms the all-meat diet thing is insane and bad, right? Cause with his daughter people were saying for a long time she just had the symptoms of lyme disease or something, and the meat diet was just a coincidence but it's pretty much all she does now so she has to stick with it.
Letora said:
Personally I think he's not schizo but has brain damage from the weird shit he did to try and get off his benzos. Benzos can take years of withdrawal to get off of and permanently alter your brain in a negative way, so I think his blandness and mild slowness fits that more than schizophrenia.
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Yeah in the article it just puts it there, "it was around that time he was diagnosed with schizophrenia," this is the first I heard of it and while it's the headline, it doesn't quote him from the interview or anywhere else.
 
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Okay so this pretty much confirms the all-meat diet thing is insane and bad, right? Cause with his daughter people were saying for a long time she just had the symptoms of lyme disease or something, and the meat diet was just a coincidence but it's pretty much all she does now so she has to stick with it.
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From the article:
Mikhaila, 28, her Russian husband and Peterson began the diet in 2016, but all three had a violent “sodium metabisulphite response,” she said. “It was really awful — but it hit him hardest,” Mikhaila told the Times. “He couldn’t stand up without blacking out. He had this impending sense of doom. He wasn’t sleeping.”
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I don't know what a "sodium metabisulphite response" is, but it seems to be a food additive/preservative, and his daughter is a kook that likes to attribute every issue she has to weird things with extreme shameless confidence, like a munchie does.

I don't think he was "blacking out" because of a response to a common food additive, but because their electrolytes were likely out of balance since that happens when you go on an extremely low-carb diet. The solution is to add electrolytes (potassium, sodium, and magnesium) to your water and to just wait the adjustment period out.

People on carnivore diets tend to have diarrhea for a period of time until their gut bacteria change. I don't think it's necessarily insane, as it does eliminate a lot of high-FODMAP (hard to digest) foods and allergens for people who have no patience or intelligence to figure out their digestive sensitivities. They probably view as a miracle. However, it is an extremely expensive and limiting way to eat, and it really toes the line of orthorexia.

I don't think you're less healthy for eating that way, since sugar is linked to weight gain, diabetes, inflammation, cavities, etc., and meat is very nutrient-dense, but I think you're gonna be a lot poorer with a lot fewer food choices in life, and a lot less fun to be around. It's certainly a first-world type of eating that most poor people could never do. A "rich person's" diet. Plants are cheap, meat is not.
 
Letora said:
From the article:

I don't know what a "sodium metabisulphite response" is, but it seems to be a food additive/preservative, and his daughter is a kook that likes to attribute every issue she has to weird things with extreme shameless confidence, like a munchie does.

I don't think he was "blacking out" because of a response to a common food additive, but because their electrolytes were likely out of balance since that happens when you go on an extremely low-carb diet. The solution is to add electrolytes (potassium, sodium, and magnesium) to your water and to just wait the adjustment period out.

People on carnivore diets tend to have diarrhea for a period of time until their gut bacteria change. I don't think it's necessarily insane, as it does eliminate a lot of high-FODMAP (hard to digest) foods and allergens for people who have no patience or intelligence to figure out their digestive sensitivities. They probably view as a miracle. However, it is an extremely expensive and limiting way to eat, and it really toes the line of orthorexia.

I don't think you're less healthy for eating that way, since sugar is linked to weight gain, diabetes, inflammation, cavities, etc., and meat is very nutrient-dense, but I think you're gonna be a lot poorer with a lot fewer food choices in life, and a lot less fun to be around. It's certainly a first-world type of eating that most poor people could never do. A "rich person's" diet. Plants are cheap, meat is not.
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Don't you need the vitamins from fruit and vegetables though? If you're just going to Barbarians in Toronto every single night to eat a massive bone-in steak, you would get scurvy or something eventually without supplements, wouldn't you? Because now if we are saying eat all meat but also have these special drinks and supplements so you're able to function, then it just seems like meme veganism.
 
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Don't you need the vitamins from fruit and vegetables though? If you're just going to Barbarians in Toronto every single night to eat a massive bone-in steak, you would get scurvy or something eventually without supplements, wouldn't you?
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I think carnivore diet people argue that you need to eat "nose-to-tail," meaning that you can get those vitamins from organ meats that people tend to avoid for sexy cuts like steak. Also many of them eat eggs which have some calcium.

They also argue that the daily nutritional values that are recommended for people are based on people eating the high-carbohydrate and high-oxalate Standard Western Diet, and that you don't need the same levels of nutrients when eating an almost no-carbohydrate, no-plant diet like the carnivore diet, because they apparently "don't compete for the same pathways" for calcium and vitamin C.

There are people that have claimed to eat this way for 10+ years (all a bit kooky though), and none of them have scurvy, supposedly, so I don't know. I do agree that nutrition science is really questionable in some ways, like the lipid hypothesis and the USDA dictating nutritional guidelines which is a huge conflict of interest, and it does make sense that maybe people need different values for drastically different intakes.

This makes me sound like a carnivore diet follower but I am not, I've just been reading/watching their stuff for a while out of curiosity.
 
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During the ordeal, Peterson wrote a sequel to his best-selling book dubbed “Beyond Order: 12 More Rules for Life.” It’s expected to be published in the spring.
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Lol, who the fuck is going to take life advice from a mentally deficient benzo addict that had to be placed into a drug induced coma because his dependence was so severe?
 
The New York Post updated their article with this, and they removed the schizophrenia from the title
The Times reported that he was diagnosed with schizophrenia around this time. But Peterson subsequently released full audio of the interview to show that Mikhaila said he was misdiagnosed with several conditions, including schizophrenia.
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Thank God daddy's dearest is an expert in psychology, even more than her father is, and can discard medical documents she doesn't like.
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Spatula said:
The New York Post updated their article with this, and they removed the schizophrenia from the title

Thank God daddy's dearest is an expert in psychology, even more than her father is, and can discard medical documents she doesn't like.
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I find it interesting they caved to removing that portion. I watched Mikhaila's video about this topic in its entirety:


She's a strange person with a very blunt tone of speaking and a somewhat endearing mild laugh, I don't know how to describe her. She almost comes off as slightly autistic. Her terrible choice in men makes me have less respect for her, though.

I will say I agree that the article writer clearly really didn't like Mikhaila. I wonder what interactions she had with her that made her dislike her so much that she held a grudge. The interviewer sounded really bitchy and unpleasant during the recordings Mikhaila shared. Mikhaila has been hardcore leading her father around. She made several suggestions/revisions to him about his answers in the interview that he immediately agreed with her on, almost like he couldn't think for himself. If he's really completely out of it, then I'm grateful he at least has a daughter who gives a fuck about him, even if she's weird.

I also agree with her that there are a lot of shit doctors out there that diagnose people incorrectly and then act incredibly offended when the patients come back claiming negative side effects or asking for a second opinion. If the Petersons really saw a doctor that claimed he had schizophrenia and bipolar disorder after just coming off of benzos, which are known to have insanely long withdrawal periods and permanent negative effects, I would have been like, "fuck you" too. I will continue to say that people who put doctors on pedestals, like the interviewer, are the ones who have not yet been misdiagnosed or dismissed by one. The moment that happens to you or a family member, the whole "doctors are angels and always right" idea goes away quickly.

I think the most interesting thing I got from this video was her constantly mentioning akathisia. I looked it up thinking it was some woo woo bullshit, and you know what? I was grateful to learn that term:
Akathisia is a movement disorder characterized by a subjective feeling of inner restlessness accompanied by mental distress and an inability to sit still.
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I've met someone who experienced this after taking a psych med but had no word for it, and their doctor thought they were full of shit.

The video made it clear that Jordan's wife Tammy has recovered from her rare kidney cancer, but now she has to deal with her mentally messed up husband. His constant crying in interviews is alarming compared to his old self.
 
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Actually this is pretty common, but not everyone is insane to go in russia to be put in a coma, and then lose the memory for a huge chunk of time.
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But the Canadian/Western doctors wanted Jordan to undergo electroshock therapy (fucking primitive shit), which causes memory loss too, plus other brain damage, so tbh I would rather do the coma than get my brain shocked into retardation. Ugh, the thought of that just makes me sick.
 
Letora said:
But the Canadian/Western doctors wanted Jordan to undergo electroshock therapy (fucking primitive shit), which causes memory loss too, plus other brain damage, so tbh I would rather do the coma than get my brain shocked into retardation. Ugh, the thought of that just makes me sick.
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You end up retarded both ways.
 
Spatula said:
The New York Post updated their article with this, and they removed the schizophrenia from the title


Thank God daddy's dearest is an expert in psychology, even more than her father is, and can discard medical documents she doesn't like.
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It's a valid concern though, this guy is pretty famous and a successful tenured professor who specializes in psychology, why would be diagnosed with schizophrenia in his late 50s? I guess the argument could be made that a crazy person specializing in being crazy could cover it up, but like others said it's a pretty obvious thing to notice in people.
Plus psychologists in general are full of shit, that's why every time they catch a serial killer or mass shooter they have to retest them like 3 or 4 times cause at least one of them is gonna say he's a schizophrenic unfit for trial or "heard voices." Even Son of Sam made a big deal about tricking them with this random shit, it's like they really want to put everything in that bucket if possible.
 
Letora said:
But the Canadian/Western doctors wanted Jordan to undergo electroshock therapy (fucking primitive shit), which causes memory loss too, plus other brain damage, so tbh I would rather do the coma than get my brain shocked into retardation. Ugh, the thought of that just makes me sick.
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You can't actually try to pretend to care about your mental well being when you're popping benzos like they're tic-tacs.
 
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Man his daughter is a piece of work. Is this the poop bun for thots or something? I've suddenly started seeing it everywhere, and always on the trashiest person in sight- the kind of woman to be wearing pants with words on the butt to Costco in 2021.
 
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