💊 Manosphere Jordan Peterson - Internet Daddy Simulator, Post-modern Anti-postmodernist, Canadian Psychology Professor, Depressed, Got Hooked on Benzos

[Kalishnakov]

So far we can all agree that JBP purpose is to "rescue the KEK Boys" who grew up without a father figure and prevent them from taking the Honk Pill by attacking the SJW+QWERTY+MEDIA Dragon so as to became their Hero against Clown World insanity, but since the things he is fighting against are obviously insane (feminism and 26 genders) he never needed a lot of intellectual firepower like in this debate because he usually slay idiots or walking stereotypes.

So it was really dumb for him to debate someone whitout checking his work, but JBP has done this before by talking about the Bible admitting he never finished reading it for example.

His presentation to Trilateral Comision (EDIT: I mistook it for CFR) about the rise of populism was very bad also, because it is standard "let me repeat what I always say even though it has nothing with the question you ask me"

He was asked about why Democracy are in danger and he answered with "wash your balls"

See the video below from VOXDAY, which is also a lolcow but I can't find the raw, also even VOX make an example of

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Why is Peterson is trying to save the KEK BOYS ? because if they picture the great replacement as shown by Andrew Anglin and Renaud Camus ... Then they are going to NorthernIreland this bitch like Tarrant in a mosque

That is some serious spin you got going on there.

 

[Chexxchunk]

The dude popularized a lot of very interesting practical scientific research that isn't well known, and he reacquainted people with where Western culture left off before it shit the bed and got subverted by Soviets in the 60s. The guys human, not a divine force, and he's kind of exhausted his repertoire by this point. Sure he could seem like some demiangel when he was revealing all his stored up wisdom, but now he's revealed it all, so.... Yeah, all he can do is say what he's already said.

 

[Truthspeaker]

Wash your balls...or else.

I keep seeing this crop up.

Is the context exactly as hilarious as I suspect?

Honestly the fact that even much of the right is either making fun of him for fucking up the debate, expressing interest in Zizek's works, or crying about Daddy's flub has really earned him a spot in the cow pantheon even more so than the cider thing. That's just pure arrogance and hubris right there.

The one good thing is that it might be humiliating enough to get him out of rockstar mode.

Emphasis on "might". Those $1000 tickets he's still selling come with free hubris attatched, and he's a fiend for the stuff.

The dude popularized a lot of very interesting practical scientific research that isn't well known, and he reacquainted people with where Western culture left off before it shit the bed and got subverted by Soviets in the 60s. The guys human, not a divine force, and he's kind of exhausted his repertoire by this point. Sure he could seem like some demiangel when he was revealing all his stored up wisdom, but now he's revealed it all, so.... Yeah, all he can do is say what he's already said.

My ass.

Nobody reveals all their wisdom. They just get lazy. Peterson's on sabbatical from UoT, retired from private practice, and he doesn't have zny young children to look after. He has more than enough time, when going on a televized debate, to do his homework beforehand.

He chose not to. Now he's paying for it.

 

[Kalishnakov]

"Inflammatory" is the concept of Free Speech?

Or is it forcing False Facts into Law?

 

[NukeAfrikan]

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Nobody reveals all their wisdom. They just get lazy. Peterson's on sabbatical from UoT, retired from private practice, and he doesn't have zny young children to look after. He has more than enough time, when going on a televized debate, to do his homework beforehand, which is what is fueling the kekboys insanity

He chose not to. Now he's paying for it.

Dude is lazy because he normally has easy targets.

Hi want him to debate Renaud Camus or even Andrew Anglin on the great replacement.

That is some serious spin you got going on there.

Why ?

JBP mission in his own word is to save the kekboys.

Why the keke boys exist ? Because of the decline of the west, the great replacement and ClownWorld causing them a discomfort.

Jordan Peterson: Kek Boys and Pepe the Frog

Jordan Peterson talks in this video about Kek Boys and Pepe the Frog. Peterson's 12 Rules for Life audiobook: https://amzn.to/2JqKf3S This clip comes from ht...

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[Kalishnakov]

Kekistani's exist due to what? Nor are they homogeneous in their mental make up.

 

[Jersey Devil]

There's no way I'm listening to all of that, if a Kiwi who has wants to sum it up neatly I'd appreciate it. I don't expect it to be much more than two academic dinosaurs convinced of their own intellectual superiority shouting in circles for two hours and managing not to make a single salient point between them.

Peterson didn't prepare at all for Zizek, and I think he assumed that Zizek was a garden-variety college liberal "communist" that he could blow out with the usual talking points. Zizek is a hardcore Marxist who hates identity politics and believes that the current Democratic party in America should be destroyed. This caught Peterson off guard because he wasn't prepared to argue against actual Marxism. None of his arguments against SJW multiculturalism could be used anymore since Zizek agreed on them, he had to argue pure capitalism v. communism. He hadn't studied any actual Communist literature or any of Zizek's work and had absolutely no idea what was being discussed.

Peterson never recovered and Zizek spat circles around him. It was absolutely embarrassing and Peterson was insanely arrogant to think he could win without doing any research.

 

[Kalishnakov]

Peterson didn't prepare at all for Zizek, and I think he assumed that Zizek was a garden-variety college liberal "communist" that he could blow out with the usual talking points. Zizek is a hardcore Marxist who hates identity politics and believes that the current Democratic party in America should be destroyed. This caught Peterson off guard because he wasn't prepared to argue against actual Marxism. None of his arguments against SJW multiculturalism could be used anymore since Zizek agreed on them, he had to argue pure capitalism v. communism. He hadn't studied any actual Communist literature or any of Zizek's work and had absolutely no idea what was being discussed.

Peterson never recovered and Zizek spat circles around him. It was absolutely embarrassing and Peterson was insanely arrogant to think he could win without doing any research.

Despite that, it was very polite spitting and both came away with a better understanding of the other.

Not the way SJW rantings are run or shoving words into the others' mouth in an attempt to steer the conversation.

 

[NukeAfrikan]

Kekistani's exist due to what? Nor are they homogeneous in their mental make up.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=3wj48ACMWeI

Kekistani are not homogeneous, but the fact that JBP has success across all western countries show that there is a common sentiment all these young people share.

Sure on a pure technological point Kekistani exist because of the internet but also because all these countries suffer from economic decline, social degeneration, mass migration and desilusion with the political process, the young people feel their future was stolen and they want to fight back.

Even if they are different in style, the DailyStormer podcast THEKRYPTOREPORT and their French equivalent DP podcast have the same sentiment when they get listener mail: Young white man struggle and wonder why immigrants are taking his place.

Even dating and divorce is becoming worse which why MGTOW exists.

So if a general feeling of decline is not the cause what is the cause ?

Se always had excepcional people, but now they either can chimp out easily or something is making more people chimp out

Peterson didn't prepare at all for Zizek, and I think he assumed that Zizek was a garden-variety college liberal "communist" that he could blow out with the usual talking points. Zizek is a hardcore Marxist who hates identity politics believes that the current Democratic party in America should be destroyed. This caught Peterson off guard because he wasn't prepared to argue against actual Marxism. None of his arguments against SJW multiculturalism could be used anymore since Zizek agreed on them, he had to argue pure capitalism v. communism. He hadn't studied any actual Communist literature or any of Zizek's work and had absolutely no idea what was being discussed.

Peterson never recovered and Zizek spat circles around him. It was absolutely embarrassing and Peterson was insanely arrogant to think he could win without doing any research.

Exactly because Peterson whole schitck is to attack easy SJW targets, and he just proved he is not a serious intellectual.

 

[Kalishnakov]

"Serious Intellectual" ? Damn..
Seems too many "serious intellectuals" in an echo chamber turn up nothing much better than the contents of a chamber pot.
But...that's just my analysis.

Peterson is looking at facts and evidence. Not: "If only everyone would ___. The world would be a better place."

 

[ProgKing of the North]

Dude is lazy because he normally has easy targets.

Hi want him to debate Renaud Camus or even Andrew Anglin on the great replacement.

Yeah, because those guys are real serious intellectuals

 

[NukeAfrikan]

"Serious Intellectual" ? Damn..
Seems too many "serious intellectuals" in an echo chamber turn up nothing much better than the contents of a chamber pot.
But...that's just my analysis.

Peterson is looking at facts and evidence. Not: "If only everyone would ___. The world would be a better place."

Dude has done a good job against SJW and ClownWorld shit, but there is more happening in the world than 27 genders.

A serious intellectual would not walk into a debate without studying the subject matter.

JBP reasoning was "it is just another ClownWorld idiot".

Yeah, because those guys are real serious intellectuals

Anglin is a Troll, Camus is an actual intellectual, but for some reason both are trashed for bringing up the question of whether Western countries should put a stop to mass migration from the third world.

Why is this such a sacred cow that you can't troll about it or have Intellectual debates about it ?

Even the Sargon vs Angling debate turned into Sargon repeating " lolracist lolnazi loldeath squads " which made Anglin look reasonable.

So OK guys, tell us why Kekistani exist then?

 

[ProgKing of the North]

Dude has done a good job against SJW and ClownWorld shit, but there is more happening in the world than 27 genders.

A serious intellectual would not walk into a debate without studying the subject matter.

JBP reasoning was "it is just another ClownWorld idiot".



Anglin is a Troll, Camus is an actual intellectual, but for some reason both are trashed for bringing up the question of whether Western countries should put a stop to mass migration from the third world.

Why is this such a sacred cow that you can't troll about it or have Intellectual debates about it ?

Even the Sargon vs Angling debate turned into Sargon repeating " lolracist lolnazi loldeath squads " which made Anglin look reasonable.

So OK guys, tell us why Kekistani exist then?

Cause young people have been into various faggotry since the dawn of time. This time around some got sucked into Marxism, some into Kekistani, same difference

 

[Sinner's Sandwich]

Peterson is looking at facts and evidence.

Oh, that's why he claimed he didn't sleep for 25 days straight and the movie Frozen is part of a conspiracy. There is more bullshit he said. Facts & evidence, everyone.

 

[Kalishnakov]

Oh, that's why he claimed he didn't sleep for 25 days straight and the movie Frozen is part of a conspiracy. There is more bullshit he said. Facts & evidence, everyone.

Context. I'd like to hear that if you have the video.

 

[NukeAfrikan]

Cause young people have been into various faggotry since the dawn of time. This time around some got sucked into Marxism, some into Kekistani, same difference

Yes I agree that the young have always been easily gotten into faggotry, from Alcibiades taking the Athenian Army to Syracuse to the Young Communists, but sometimes there is a real problem that makes them seek something.

Heck even Trump election is a good example: Some people voted for him because "FUCK THE DEMOCRATS" , others because "FUCKOBAMA" , but others they are living real problems for which they seem to have no solutions: opioid crisis, unemployment, and mass immigration.

Oh, that's why he claimed he didn't sleep for 25 days straight and the movie Frozen is part of a conspiracy. There is more bullshit he said. Facts & evidence, everyone.

His helpful advice to Kavanaugh to resign even if innocent was also one of those WTF moments.

Peterson looks smart compared to SJW, and he is getting used to a low bar for lack of brain effort.

 

[Commander X]

 

[NukeAfrikan]

It would hilarious if the same KekeBoys that Peterson is trying to save trolled him into getting his ass opened by a competent opponent.

Whose ideas was this to have this debate ?

 

[Крыса]

Peterson is looking at facts and evidence.

Not really, but he doesn't have to be. I've read someone making an interesting point : Peterson is a clinical psychologist, studies and evidence show patterns but ultimately when you treat an individual patient the fact you care about is them getting better. If an addict you see is making progress by going to 12 steps meeting, you're not going to tell him "Ok Jim, the evidence shows that 12 steps is barely more efficient than doing nothing at all, so let's try this instead.", you're going to keep encouraging him to get better by whatever reasonable means necessary. But that's valid for psychotherapy when you work with individuals or small groups and there's a dialog and feedback. You can't do the same thing when talking to an auditorium or youtube viewers or your readers, then you just venture into the territory of self-help bullshit.

Moreover 12 Rules for Life itself isn't "facts and evidence", it's a lot of biblical exegesis, other literary texts commentary, personal anecdotes and subjective commentary of various events. And yeah a bunch of what you can call facts in the middle of that I guess. Nothing wrong with any of that mind you, but presenting it as a scientific study now that is a problem. It's Peterson's opinions about stuff, some of them interesting, some of them retarded, again nothing wrong if you enjoy reading that (hell I've got a bunch of René Guénon's books), but it's just that, opinion and commentary, not evidence.

Edit : I would definitely recommend Guénon's work to fans of Jordan Peterson, The Crisis of the Modern World and The Reign of Quantity and the Signs of Times, and then you'll be ready for the big boys stuff, the OG lobster king Julius Evola and his Ride the Tiger: A Survival guide for the Aristocrats of the Soul

 

[Truthspeaker]

@Kalishnakov

I'm sorry your mother's boyfriend doesn't love you enough, but nothing's stopping you from finding a father figure you can actually speak to for free that lives in your hometown.