💊 Manosphere Jordan Peterson - Internet Daddy Simulator, Post-modern Anti-postmodernist, Canadian Psychology Professor, Depressed, Got Hooked on Benzos

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flinty said:
It's a "very complicated image. It's actually a three-dimensional representation of a two-dimensional representation of a four-dimensional object." When printed onto a carpet, Peterson values it at 2000 dollars:
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I wonder if his brain hurts because he thinks about how complicated this image is all the time.
 
Can you actually believe there are retards that think Peterson is super deep and they follow his words and are just blown away by his supreme intellect over talking about "meaning" and gobbeldygook about archetypes and shit? I can just see them, last year of high school, fedora on head, and mouth slightly agape, the professor man is sincere and talks about big things Mr. English Teacher never quite talked about. At the fucking lunch table they sit together, they got a name for each other, probably something faggy like "Liberalists" or some equally retarded shit, and to try to mimic Internet Intellect Professor. They talk about the things he talks about in a sincere and solemn manner and when they get home, they sort of clean their room until it's just clean enough that their parents won't bother complaining. When it's night and the rest of the family falls asleep, they log on their computer really quick before bed to watch a couple of youtube videos about Peterson ("Watch Jordan Peterson WRECK absolutely BATSHIT FEMINIST!") and, before they go to get a little shut eye and retire for the night, they rub one out to hentai, justifying the shame they're bringing their ancestors as these cartoon girls being archetypes of eroticism, which makes them not real but "hyper-real" and therefore better than real women who are actually less real for being real real and not hyper-real higher-order truths.
 
Richard Stabone said:
I don't have a story like that but this Reddit user torpedoed a relationship with his girlfriend in college over being a fanatic of JP. At least I hope this is real.

https://www.reddit.com/r/JordanPeterson/comments/9pan7h/i_took_my_girlfriend_to_see_jordan_peterson/

It did not go as well as I hoped. Let me give you a bit of a back story. I am using a throwaway because my girlfriend knows my main Reddit.

I found out about Jordan Peterson about a year ago and since then I became a huge fan. I was never a big reader, but I got all of his books. (They are the only books on my bookshelf and also a book about John F. Kennedy my aunt gave me but I never read. So I don't have many books and its a small shelf.)

I am 19 years old now. I met my girlfriend when we were 17 in high school. When I was 18 I moved out and began to go to the local university. My girlfriend is the same age as I am and she started classes there too. When I moved out is around the time I started reading Dr. Peterson's work and I took the battle against chaos to heart. Mostly because I was a very messy person before. So I kept my new room very clean (I have a roommate who helps) and I was finally able to decorate it the way that I wanted since I moved out. Mostly I kept it simple and tasteful but I also have a big poster of Dr. Peterson in my room.

When I began to see how important Dr. Peterson had become in my life I started trying to get my girlfriend interested. But she did not seem very interested. I thought he could help her a lot, because when we met and she lived at home she was a very messy and chaotic person also. We both were then. Since she moved out also and got a roommate it has gotten even worse for her. I would say her room is about fifty percent messier than it was. She is slouching a lot. She is also very disorganized with her classes and note taking (somehow she is still getting all As, I got all As too my first semester but I also got two Cs). I can't even read or understand the notes she takes for her class. I tried to tell her to be more organized and less chaotic with it, that it would help her more, but I think it got annoying for her to hear it.

Anyway when we would hang out I would try to get her to listen to Dr. Peterson's lectures but it always seemed like a chore or like she didn't really want to. I found it really frustrating because he was so inspiring for me. Eventually I stopped putting them on because I would hear and see her sigh in an exaggerated way when I would put YouTube on with his lectures.

Not long ago it was coming up on the day that we met (our anniversary) and we had a nice dinner at a seafood place we both really like. A few days later I got us tickets to see Dr. Peterson speak. I had hoped that it would be better than the videos. She seemed excited to go and we had a nice night together.

The next day we didn't talk, which is normal these days with school and stuff. I sent her a text message the day after and she didn't respond which I thought was weird. Then I did it the day after and still no response. She didn't write back to me for four days! Until I sent her a long message just asking for an explanation for why she ghosted me or at least let me know she is okay.

A few days later she finally sent me a long email. She said that she wanted some space and that she needed to think. That things were changing and that they weren't the same as they were. She actually blamed Dr. Peterson for changing me! Which is true but I thought I changed for the better. She said I was being really strict with the cleanliness now and that I was saying too much about her being messy. That I wasn't fun any more. And also she said that she wanted to see other people and that she wasn't sure I was the person she wanted to be with forever in a relationship. This was very disappointing to see her go against monogamous relationships.

That isn't all though. I talked to a mutual friend of ours and she told me some things really candidly. Our friend said that after seeing Jordan Peterson in person my girlfriend was really weirded out. Because I cried a little bit there and there were other men crying too. (I didn't think this was fair, there is no shame in crying.) Also that she felt like following Dr. Peterson's advice made me kind of less fun and more boring than how I was when we met at 17. Basically that she thought I became a little too "obsessed" with him. She also said that my girlfriend thought some of the things Dr. Peterson said about relationships were chauvinistic and unrealistic. And then she (not my girlfriend but our friend) said she researched Dr. Peterson and that he hated women and kind of scolded me. I told her that was just SJW/Cultural Marxist propaganda, that Dr. Peterson wasn't really like that and she just didn't understand him. She said I was "talking down" to her and that is why my girlfriend left me. (I don't think she left me she never said she didn't want to see me any more btw.)

Anyway what do I do? How do I fix this and get our friend and my girlfriend to be okay with Dr. Peterson?
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This is a troll. The parentheticals about his bookshelf and grades are too on the nose.

However, its popularity as a story suggests that it contains a meta-truth about the archetype of JBP fans.
 
flinty said:
"very complicated image. It's actually a three-dimensional representation of a two-dimensional representation of a four-dimensional object."
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Did he mix that up? It's clearly 2-dimensional.

Here's a 2-dimensional representation (flat image on your screen) of a 3-dimensional representation (the fake depth) of a 4-dimensional object (tesseract):
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Very complex, you need a PhD in psychology to fully appreciate it.
 
Feline Darkmage said:
I wonder if his brain hurts because he thinks about how complicated this image is all the time.
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He didn't sleep for 25 days after drinking cider and looking at that image. He's in a world that we cannot even touch with our <95 IQs.

EDIT: He acutally sculpted that image. Talk about being Jung's fanboy. Also, In lowkey's video, he mention Pinocchio, Buddha and Lotus.
 
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Credit to Mr. Antibully. Hero of the west everyone... Not a practical piece of advice or something understandable in 3 minutes. Quite the achievement.


Special mention to hands gestures. Also to his beta voice projection.
 
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Steamboat_Bill said:
What is he trying to say, exactly?
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That depends on what you mean by exactly.

Pozzingmyfilthyneghole said:
He’s paraphrasing Mao.
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That's the weird part; that was the brief period of freedom of political expression under mao.

If he is referring to the hundred flowers bloom, he's saying that the left likes free speech.

Which is honestly a weird statement to make in 2018. Might make sense in 1970 or 1980.

edit: cinderblock got it better below
 
Steamboat_Bill said:
What is he trying to say, exactly?
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I think it's a quote from Mao, that means "letting a thousand school of thought happen". He's implying that the left wants every thought about sex to be valid. He means it as criticism, implying that no correct school of thought is valid to the left and that 'everything goes' in regard to sex.

Also, I'm with Zizek on this one. Fuck "fixing" the societal divide like Jordan wants to... It's pathetic. Where's fighting for what one believes? Where is the personal choice to have a political difference (and make even gross errors) possible in Jordan's world? There is no personal choice possible in Jordan's mind.

I don't honesly think that Jordan wants to "fix" the divide. I think he wants all the people to be like him and have a "centrist" quasi-conservative, liberal ideology. And deep inside, he wants to be the ideological leader of that movement, just like Heidegger wanted to be for the Nazi party. (We all know he's not a nazi, but the intellectual power hunger shows in both.)
 
Cinderblock said:
I don't honesly think that Jordan wants to "fix" the divide. I think he wants all the people to be like him and have a "centrist" quasi-conservative, liberal ideology. And deep inside, he wants to be the leader of that movement, just like Heidegger wanted to be for the Nazi party. (We all know he's not a nazi, but the intellectual power hunger shows in both.)
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I don't think it's a deep inside; I think he knows his own motives fairly clearly. But otherwise I think it's spot on.
 
Cinderblock said:
I think it's a quote from Mao, that means "letting a thousand school of thought happen". He's implying that the left wants every thought about sex to be valid. He means it as criticism, implying that no correct school of thought is valid to the left and that 'everything goes' in regard to sex.

Also, I'm with Zizek on this one. Fuck "fixing" the societal divide like Jordan wants to... It's pathetic. Where's fighting for what one believes? Where is the personal choice to have a political difference (and make even gross errors) possible in Jordan's world? There is no personal choice possible in Jordan's mind.

I don't honesly think that Jordan wants to "fix" the divide. I think he wants all the people to be like him and have a "centrist" quasi-conservative, liberal ideology. And deep inside, he wants to be the ideological leader of that movement, just like Heidegger wanted to be for the Nazi party. (We all know he's not a nazi, but the intellectual power hunger shows in both.)
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See, I'm not familiar with Mao's work, so I wouldn't know that. Like I said, Peterson is obsessed with Communism in ways that would make even tankies think he's going too far.

You mean he isn't the ideological leader of that movement already?
 
Steamboat_Bill said:
See, I'm not familiar with Mao's work, so I wouldn't know that. Like I said, Peterson is obsessed with Communism in ways that would make even tankies think he's going too far.

You mean he isn't the ideological leader of that movement already?
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I wouldn't say he's a leader. He's just an important figure for the moment, a "fad" as has been said before imo.

Soon enough people will tire of him since his brand of politics are very restrictive in a lot of ways. People get tired of the status quo and getting told by rich men in positions of power that everything is okay as long as you obey the system.

Not to mention losing credibility because of his crazy rants that don't make sense. I mean seriously, I had to google the "thousand flowers bloom" thing. Why would you throw that phrase in front of Trump Jr which he surely doesn't know. Was he trying to impress him as an intellectual?
 
Peterson is an interesting character, because he's a person of average intelligence who uses big words and obscure concepts to fool idiots into thinking that he's a genius and that they should give him money. Just goes to show that you don't have to know what you're talking about, you just have to sound like you do.
 
Cinderblock said:
Not to mention losing credibility because of his crazy rants that don't make sense. I mean seriously, I had to google the "thousand flowers bloom" thing. Why would you throw that phrase in front of Trump Jr which he surely doesn't know. Was he trying to impress him as an intellectual?
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I often have to talk with academics and many of them tend to talk like that, so my guess would be that it is university thing. Obviously academic from IT faculty won't use Mao quotes, but he is going to babble about some models and paradigms when simple statement would be sufficient.
 
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