💊 Manosphere Jordan Peterson - Internet Daddy Simulator, Post-modern Anti-postmodernist, Canadian Psychology Professor, Depressed, Got Hooked on Benzos

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Thanks for the answer - but why was he on benzo? I'm not familiar with that drug, antidepressant? Yeah this video I saw of him was weird, he's so strange now, he always been weird but he knew how to hide it better I guess, now this JP 2.0 seems like a person who's about to have a mental breakdown any second, broken man. I guess that's how it goes when you lie about 200 years together.
About 5 years before he surfed the pepe wave to fame by wearing a frog mask, he talked on a tv show with his daughter about their depression. Even when he was on top of his game he would do streams where he would suddenly burst into tears. Yes, he knew how to hide it better. And I'm sure that being put in a coma in a russian clinic really messed with his brain big time. Why he took benzo's? They're used against anxiety and insomnia amongst other things. He was probably taking them for both of those.

has Peterson said anything on the Ukrainian war?

 
I still tremble when I think about the time when I started to read his book, stumbling on "dreaming about grandmothers pussy hair" part...what a nutjob.
This . . . exists?
Neocons like Kagan never cease to miss the irony of getting all hawkish and indignant about Putin's war in Ukraine while they act as cheerleaders for Washington's numerous wars around the world. The fact that Peterson would shill for such a perspective by enthusiastically presenting it as "expert opinion" is both pathetic and infuriating.
 
This . . . exists?
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This is the curse of the internet era - too much info flows around non stop and a lot of shit gets lost way too easily.
 
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This is the curse of the internet era - too much info flows around non stop and a lot of shit gets lost way too easily.
Though the deepfake of Peterson reading the exact quote is the real pleasure.

Unfortunately this one with music at the end is the only I could still find.

 
Is Jordan Peterson smart? I feel he makes good articulate points, but if he actually smart to understand what the fuck he is saying nowadays?

I watched a video of him talking about social mobility and how that is something really hard to do, and I was like "Are you retarded? Poor people can get richer if you just give them a job and harsher norms to live by so they don't waste the money on stupid things" yet Jordan Peterson was like "No. It's hard. Can't be done. Poor people will die poor. No. Forget about it"

Really makes me believe his whole societal commentary is flawed and has no fucking clue what he is saying most of the time.

Also wasn't his daughter a massive whore who took massive shits everyday because she was on a meat only diet?
 
I watched a video of him talking about social mobility and how that is something really hard to do, and I was like "Are you retarded? Poor people can get richer if you just give them a job and harsher norms to live by so they don't waste the money on stupid things" yet Jordan Peterson was like "No. It's hard. Can't be done. Poor people will die poor. No. Forget about it"
There's a difference between something that's easy and something that's simple. For example, losing weight is simple. You have to eat less energy than you expend. But there are plenty of people for who this isn't easy. First you have the people with too low IQ to reliably follow instructions in the first place, which weeds out about 20% of people before you even begin. Then you have there's a segment who understand but lack impulse control and discipline to follow the instructions that they do understand clearly.

As for Peterson's ideas on the subject, he has laid out his ideas on this before, where the two primary predictors of lifetime income are Conscientious of the big five (particularly the industriousness half) and IQ. I do think there's some truth to it that people don't easily escape the trappings of their origin.

Besides, someone saving money doesn't exactly climb the social ladder meaningfully. It's not like 50 years ago where a farmer might save up for a university education for one of his children and have them be set for life with it. Social mobility depends more on how much you can spend than how much you've saved.
 
There's a difference between something that's easy and something that's simple. For example, losing weight is simple. You have to eat less energy than you expend. But there are plenty of people for who this isn't easy. First you have the people with too low IQ to reliably follow instructions in the first place, which weeds out about 20% of people before you even begin. Then you have there's a segment who understand but lack impulse control and discipline to follow the instructions that they do understand clearly.

As for Peterson's ideas on the subject, he has laid out his ideas on this before, where the two primary predictors of lifetime income are Conscientious of the big five (particularly the industriousness half) and IQ. I do think there's some truth to it that people don't easily escape the trappings of their origin.

Besides, someone saving money doesn't exactly climb the social ladder meaningfully. It's not like 50 years ago where a farmer might save up for a university education for one of his children and have them be set for life with it. Social mobility depends more on how much you can spend than how much you've saved.
Completely agree and we could debate for hours about social mobility and the role public policies, culture, tradition, income, etc. Shape the future of society and individuals alike.

However I still believe Jordan Peterson is wrong due to him alwaya having a preconceived notion of the problem but never of the solution. He is always ready to shoot down any possible solution even when there are ways you can revert the situation, regardless of complexity.

Peterson nihilism rubs me the wrong way every fucking time he talks about something, even articulate points of him fell short due to his inability to process solutions or viable alternatives to social issues, which in turn makes him seem like he doesn't know what the fuck he is saying to me.

Plus knowing her daughter a whore and he got hooked on benzos doesn't really makes him more capable in my eyes.
 
Is Jordan Peterson smart? I feel he makes good articulate points, but if he actually smart to understand what the fuck he is saying nowadays?

I watched a video of him talking about social mobility and how that is something really hard to do, and I was like "Are you retarded? Poor people can get richer if you just give them a job and harsher norms to live by so they don't waste the money on stupid things" yet Jordan Peterson was like "No. It's hard. Can't be done. Poor people will die poor. No. Forget about it"

Really makes me believe his whole societal commentary is flawed and has no fucking clue what he is saying most of the time.

Also wasn't his daughter a massive whore who took massive shits everyday because she was on a meat only diet?

The Anglo Canadian view of poverty is quite similar to that in the UK. Even though most people aren't willing to admit that. It matters what kind of family you are born into not how hard you're willing to work despite where you started.

I think Americans in general have a much more liberal idea of class and how it can change despite the kind of family the person is born into. America is much more diverse than Canada even within its white population. Where as most Canadian English speaking whites are descended from England and other parts of the British Isles and are relatively snobby and closed minded.
 
Thanks for the answer - but why was he on benzo? I'm not familiar with that drug, antidepressant?

Answering this question fully requires a some time and decent power level from me, but in answering it, you can really see Jordan Peterson as he actually is. I don't mean this in some ominous sense, but in a more revelatory one. Understanding what benzos are and what they do to you, and how JP tried to overcome them is legitimate lolcow material.


Benzodiazepines are drugs that depress the central nervous system (CNS). Originally they were developed for their anticonvulsant properties; preventing seizures. Shortly after widespread synthesis they were being used at the early stages of the induction of general anesthesia because they also produce anterograde amnesia, so in addition to calming a person about to undergo a major surgical procedure and putting them on proverbial cloud nine, they are not even going to remember, much less care about, getting wheeled into a cold ass room where there are five to nine people standing over them are preparing instruments to cut them open.

Benzos basically started to replace another class of CNS depressants, barbiturates, because it is a lot harder to fatally dose someone with benzos and they are much more pharmacologically dynamic, meaning clever chemists can play around with them and come up with different variations of strengths of effects.

Enter the later half of the 20th century and the field of psychiatry (distinct from psychology) undergoes a paradigm shift in terms of treatment. The previous domination of psychoanalytic treatment (i.e. Freud) gets replaced by pharmacology and now issues like anxiety and insomnia can get fixed with prescriptions.

So run it back to the late 60s and early 70s when the Boomer generation enters adulthood and the stress of modern life inflicts a host of neuroses on the overworked breadwinners and their anxiety ridden hausfraus. Traditionally, people ameliorated these problems with alcohol abuse, but that gets sloppy real quick and takes 20 years off life expectancy, but there were alternative CNS depressants to be had from the medical establishment that came with a prescription and thus, easier to justify their use to yourself.

There is an entire generation that JP belongs to that were prescribed benzodiazepines for the treatment of anxiety and they spent decades taking them as directed, unknowingly building a dependency with little understood consequences. JP was originally prescribed a benzo for the treatment of acute anxiety related to the failing health of his wife and inadvertently embraced dependency.

JP wants off the benzo train ride, but he has a real problem. Remember that old saying that humans only use 10% of our brains? There is some truth to it, the brain acts as a hub for electrochemical signals and if there is too much signal activity going on, a seizure occurs and eventual death. JP’s benzos are anticonvulsants, they inhibit the volume of those signals being sent and received by interacting with these things called neurotransmitters. This is where benzos give you a buzz, lower your inhibitions, and halt the memory formation process, your brain isn’t able to function normally because it can’t communicate.

You consistently fuck with neurotransmitters and your brain is going to try and compensate and work around the problem; as long as the benzos are routinely introduced, this keeps your ship afloat and sailing, but if the benzos are removed from the equation and now your brain has way too much signal activity and shit goes haywire. You feel pain where there is nothing causing it, you lose control over your limbs, you get “mental blocks” and feel like you have totally forgotten how to urinate or put on your pants, you experience emotions but don’t know how to process or even understand them, you hears sounds that aren’t there, see things aren’t supposed to be, it seems impossible to carry on life like you did before.

Alcoholics experience similar effects of withdrawal (alcohol and benzos work on the same neurotransmitter), but their brains have a shorter period to readjust and alcoholics are given benzos to help control the excess neural activity. People withdrawing from benzos don’t have an alternative to help them weather the withdrawal and so have to undergo a lengthy period of weening, where they slowly work down to micro dosage before going into total abstinence.

JP decides that getting weened off benzos over the course of multiple years is simply unacceptable, he wants to grit his teeth and go cold turkey like a man. Problem is, that is pretty dangerous and no medical professional is going to help him do that. Your brain has to fix itself and you can’t speed the process up, you can’t get around this. But what if JP is placed into a coma and he can spend the entire withdrawal period in an unconscious state? Wouldn’t that be a work around? He goes to sleep one day and then wakes up some undetermined period of time later and the worst has passed. Is that possible?

No. Fucking. Way. No physician in the English speaking world would ever do this because, in addition to losing your license to practice, they’d be going to prison. You couldn’t get this approved by an ethics committee as a form of experimental research either, and you’d be professionally admonished for even submitting the proposal. It is out of the question.

There is simply no credible evidence that even hints that inducing a medical coma and maintaining it would even let the brain correct the specific issue JP is facing. There is an incredible amount of risk and almost no chance of reward. It is an incredibly stupid option to pursue.

But in Russia? Well the Slavs have a different outlook and if some rich Westerner like JP wants to come spend his money and risk his life, why should they talk him out of it? So JP goes to the motherland and gets put under. Surprise surprise, while under JP begins to suffer from various infections (being rendered immobile to the point of requiring mechanical ventilation invites this) and one passes the blood/brain barrier and starts fucking him up real good. The Slavs bring him out of the coma so they can properly treat him and it turns out, more damage was done than could have possibly been healed and the call is made not to continue with this harebrained scheme.

From this point, I think JP accepts the weening off process as being inevitable, but he suffered some kind of brain damage from an unidentified infection that required the sort of therapy you’d see for people coming off a traumatic brain injury. This really shatters his health and begins a long downward slide that he won’t be able to reverse.
 
@Pump Meat Holy shit, you telling me that the JP is partially braindead due to his own hubris?

Peterson is not smart at all. I'm sensing he will get into politics soon.
He is a pretty smart guy, but he wasn’t really suited for the role of public intellectual (few are) and being a mental health guru is a recipe for personal disaster. I think his meteoric rise to fame caused his social support network to collapse (the friendships you have with your peers and professional colleagues is incredibly important in his line of work), which resulted in an isolation that started to seriously skew his decisions. To make it even worse, JP became a beacon to a horde of struggling young men who sought him out and as a consequence he was saddled with some serious fatigue.

Fame is corrosive and encourages the worst kind of behavior. I'm actually more impressed JP has come this far without starting a NXIVM-type cult of personality. The soulless automaton that he calls a daughter will probably do that in due time.

I doubt he has any political ambitions, I think his overall health is more or less shattered and he just isn’t capable of working at a serious clip. My guess is that he is probably in semi-retirement and is more interested in helping his daughter build some kind of social media brand that can support her in the long term. She is the real cow.
 
t starting a NXIVM-type cult of personality. The soulless automaton that he calls a daughter will probably do that in due time.

I doubt he has any political ambitions, I think his overall health is more or less shattered and he just isn’t capable of working at a serious clip. My guess is that he is probably in semi-retirement and is more interested in helping his daughter build some kind of social media brand that can support her in the long term. She is the real cow.
Didn't the daughter fucked niggers or something? Got pregnant and then kept fucking niggers, all the while JP was crying like a bitch on streams?

I know that JP has some sort of incestuous relationship with her because she takes pictures of her half naked for his instagram and JP always talk about men taking charge of their lives when her fucking stupid whore daughter is fucking with niggers and cuck Peterson is the one who takes her pictures.

To be honest I think he is a hypocrite who spew bullshit to young confused men, yet he himself is a confused men too.
 
Is Jordan Peterson smart? I feel he makes good articulate points, but if he actually smart to understand what the fuck he is saying nowadays?

I watched a video of him talking about social mobility and how that is something really hard to do, and I was like "Are you retarded? Poor people can get richer if you just give them a job and harsher norms to live by so they don't waste the money on stupid things" yet Jordan Peterson was like "No. It's hard. Can't be done. Poor people will die poor. No. Forget about it"

Really makes me believe his whole societal commentary is flawed and has no fucking clue what he is saying most of the time.

Also wasn't his daughter a massive whore who took massive shits everyday because she was on a meat only diet?
His is a good psychoanalyst and his research is very well cited (even before his fame, although that helped). His social commentary is garbage for the most part. That is not what his job is, though. Whether he is smart depends on the metric that you judge him by, but his IQ is probably high.

Most of his philosophies are common sense, but he says them with gusto. Literally no one gave a shit about men six years ago so it was probably refreshing to them to have someone who could convincingly illustrate why people should make their fucking bed and not be total deadbeats. I think that this aspect of JP was good - he was a a refreshing counterpoint to the barrage of "toxic masculinity" talking points that made up 2010-2015. He definitely helped a lot of men realize that playing the "SJW" game was doing them no favours and that they should put their head down and work at whatever they wanted to excel in. Is that intelligence? Not sure.
 
That's just a stupid-looking bathing suit. She'd look nice in something different.
JP is a cow and Yumi Nu is a literal cow. "Plus size" is just a euphamism for "obese pig" that fatties use in their attempts at not feeling sad about being fat and disgusting. She has to wear that stupid-looking bathing suit to hold in her gunt. All of her bikini pics look shopped to downplay the gunt.

2022 SI Swimsuit issues also has a cover with Elon Musk's geriatric boomer mom. Also gross. Just like with the fatties, it's a way to try and make old women feel less sad about being shriveled old husks that nobody wants to fuck. Fatties and oldies, the two most undesirable traits a woman can posses.

SI has stopped caring about selling magazines to men and is all about making undesirable women feel better about themselves and trying to convince men to be interested in banging them. There is a dailymail article called "Where have all the good men gone?" that states that for every single man over 40 there are seven single women and none of the men want to date them because the are able to bag much younger hotter women.
 
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