🪦 Deceased Joe Winko - THE GAYMASTER/Lol-Bvll / Self admitted Gay Hawaiian Ricardo Milos Cosplayer/Uploaded his consciousness to the Sims/Ed Wood of Machinima

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Damn.

I have life long treatment resistant depression and have struggled with suicidal ideation for many years now. Oftentimes I don't even know why I'm still holding on. Joe was probably tired of hearing "it gets better" because fucking when? I'm sure so many of us have 'been there' in regards to wanting to check the fuck out early. But watching him die...lonely...alone...in his room...possibly cognizant enough to fully regret what he had done...was completely sobering. It's something that will stick with me for a long time.

There just..there has to be another way.

I hope he's found peace on the other side. And if he reincarnates, I hope he gets his wish for a better next life (or at least comes back equipped with the necessary strength to endure and persevere through the pain).

From one suicidal person the next: I know life eternally sucks ass, but maybe it is worth seeing it through to the natural end. Not everyone will get that privilege. My one take away from this is just to keep it pushing. We're already here, we might as well try and make the most of things before heading back.
 
dick brain said:
if you want someone else to go on suffering indefinitely just so you don't have to feel bad, you're the selfish one. A man's life is his own.
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Yeah. The “suicide is selfish” mentality is just victim blaming someone who is already mentally ill. What good will come out of shaming someone for wanting to die? It’s just going to reinforce to them that they’re a selfish asshole and that the world would be better off without them.

I think a better way to phrase the “suicide is selfish” argument is: suicide doesn’t alleviate your suffering. It transfers it to others.

I originally joined this forum to pay respects to our beloved @Cats, who committed suicide in April. I lurked here for years and never interacted with him personally, but his posts always brought a smile to my face, and I was genuinely gutted when I learned of his death. And like many others posting in this thread right now, I never even heard of Joe Winko until I saw the feature, and after reading the OP, I’m feeling a profound sense of grief for the loss of what seemed to be a harmless and funny dude.

Friends, you may feel that you are alone. That no one in the world cares about you. But you don’t know that for certain. Even if you have no known loved ones, you may not realize that there are other people whose lives you touched, who wanted to know you. People who wish they could’ve helped, if only they’d known.

It’s not selfish to want your pain to end. But if you die, the pain doesn’t end with you. The only way to end the pain is to get help. Help isn’t the same for everybody. It may take time to learn what “help” means for you. For some, medical intervention and therapy is the key. For others, it’s as simple as going out and touching grass. But once you find the thing that makes it click, the thing that makes life worth living for you. That’s when the light appears at the end of the tunnel.

The road to recovery is a long and tedious one. It’s not for the faint-hearted, and it’s not selfish to want to give up. But before giving up, just remember that once you’re gone, your memory remains, and people will grieve for you. You matter. You are loved. And even if you aren’t, well, that’s even more reason to keep living. Lean into the selfishness and live just to spite the haters. Just don’t kill yourself. Suicide is never the answer.
 
AnimeAvatard said:
No I disagree with that. It’s not just about me feeling bad it’s about multiple people being hurt and the closest to them like their family having their life ruined.

My friend who killed himself didn’t just make me sad but also his many friends, and his parents and his sister now have to live with this horribleness in their lives, his family’s life will never be the same.

Things are hard but we aren’t unique to dealing with hardships. Our grandparents or great grandparents lived through WW2, the Great Depression, Communism if they lived outside the US, and many countries are dealing with famine and war yet there are many who are dealing with it.

There is no reason someone should end the gift of life because they are sad or things are too hard. We all deal with crap, whose to say that someone is more sad or their shortcomings worse than others.

Suicide is still tragic and horrible, but it’s objectively selfish. I’m not trying to be insensitive but defending the reasons for suicide only enables the idea of suicide further and causes others to think such an act is not that bad. I don’t think it’s coincidence suicide has become worse lately than it has in the past despite the past having much worse times, we have a culture that defends and justifies suicide way too much.
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I know you have good intentions, but I think this is wrong on so many levels.

It's obviously sad for the people that care about the individual, but it's also sad for the individual to go on living. If they're at a point where they're contemplating / attempting suicide, then obviously the people close to them weren't close enough to give them reason to live. It's conceited to think otherwise.

It's irrelevant to compare someone's life today to what it was 80 years ago, even 20 years ago. With the internet and social media, and the ability to isolate yourself in front of a screen, the constant mental stress is unlike anything anyone has experienced in the past. Winko being some degree of autistic and schizophrenic just wouldn't be able to turn off his brain, which exacerbates this.

"The gift of life" is subjective in the same way the gift of toilet plunger for Christmas is subjective based on perspective. Not everyone wants a toilet plunger, and especially not from someone they don't care about. To downplay Winko's mental anguish because other people deal with crap is just complete lack of empathy.

I'm not going to pretend I have the solution to the problem, but telling people to "live on" obviously isn't working.
 
YHWH's Strongest Soldier said:
Mate, you can't just say that people who commit suicide go to hell in a thread about person that committed suicide and expect a warm reception. Do you not realize how your comment will be interpreted by any normal person?
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I didn't expect a warm reception. I gave clarifications.

Who are the "suicide sends you to sunshine and rainbows land" guys even helping? Him? He's dead. You know who doesn't need to hear that you go to Equestria when you kill yourself?

Peachtea18 said:
I have life long treatment resistant depression and have struggled with suicidal ideation for many years now.
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This guy. And the other guys who are still alive that the comment I was responding to was addressed to. So thank you for your concern but I'm good.
 
Silly desert religions with fiery pits.

We need something scarier. If you were a bad person, when you die your mind will be uploaded to Reddit until the heat death of the universe.
 
FYI: Years ago I spoke with an experienced psychiatrist about how she helps adults recover from severe childhood trauma. She said the one thing people never really recover from is the suicide of a parent.
 
Clotso Coof said:
FYI: I spoke with an experienced psychiatrist about how she helps adults recover from severe childhood trauma. She said the one thing people never really recover from is the suicide of a parent.
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It's like a parasite in your brain that taints everything else. You can "move on", recover in the literal sense, have a normal-ish life, but its always there in the back of your mind. Unless you're an actual sociopath, this particular form of loss is just different.
 
AnimeAvatard said:
See this is the other extreme and as a Christian myself I don’t fully believe this.

We have a culture that nearly fetishes the idea of suicide, a culture without good male role models for young men, a social media environment that has made people more isolated than ever before, and a spiritually sick world.

I still stand by what I said earlier, but God is a loving God and only he can truly judge the heart and mental condition of those who took their own life.
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"killing yourself is a sin" is the spiritual equivalent of "buckle your seatbelt". Are there people who don't wear seatbelts and drive very find and turn out safe? Yes. Are there people who themselves but are so mentally gone God allows them into heaven anyways? Yes. But you probably shouldn't drive without a seatbelt and you definitely shouldn't kill yourself, because the plausibility of one or the other being necessary possibilities are increasingly rare.
 
izaNAmI said:
the people close to them weren't close enough to give them reason to live.
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Yeah in the case of my friend that’s not true. Many people noticed how he was intentionally trying to cut us all out of his life for the last year and burn bridges with the people who loved and cared for him.

You can’t always blame the people around the person for committing suicide. I, my friends, his family did the best they could to be close to him.

Sometimes suicidal people get unreasonable like this, and even if that were true, killing yourself over not getting enough attention and support is sad and part of the problem for many who do, but it is not the answer to the problem and it shouldn’t be justified or rationalize just because it’s tragic.
 
femoralcanal said:
People, if you are dead set in committing suicide, make sure of 2 things first:
  • Is it really the only option?
    • Far too often we let negative emotions blind us to the fact everything eventually passes.
    • And even in the worst of times there are myriads of actions that can prevent, overcome or minimize the issue to the point it becomes bearable.
    • Even you are still sure, do yourself a favor and just sleep it over: there's a huge chance you'll think differently tomorrow.
  • Do you have people that care about you?
    • 99% chance you do.
    • Your death might ease your current pain, but it will create similar, permanent damage to each one of them.
Now, in the very unlikely event you honestly did all of the above and are still 1000% sure you'll go ahead with it,: make sure you know what you are doing!!
  • Most people who try to suicide fuck it up, and go through a looong, painful awful process where they have more than enough time to wish they could take it back (see this thread as an example)
  • Unless you're a doctor or nurse who has personally seen countless deaths, you probably don't really know 100% if it will work and how it will feel. Remember: people who write "how to kill yourself " tips are still alive and have no idea what they are talking about!
That's it, really. Hopefully everyone reading this is mature enough and thinks I'm being retarded and just stating the obvious. I'd be very glad if that's the case.
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I for one as a fellow retard think it's not retarded to reiterate that shitty times will pass at some point and that an heroing oneself does not make it magically go away. Worse, it deprives you of the chance to rectify, live through and learn from the shitty times. I have not seen the video of Winko dying (and do not plan on doing so), but I hope it at least will deter anyone from attempting to kill themselves just by reading the description of it.

Dying fucking sucks, dood.
 
Slur Generator said:
He's Thin!
He's Brown!
He's Gay!
He's Diabetic
He's Insane!
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And he will be dearly missed.
I wish he was popular enough as a lolcow in lifebto be featured on he casino. He would've loved to do interviews with them.
Vinluv Handesbukia said:
He actually sent me a video of a guy jumping. Fortunately,it was not Gory and he just fell into the water.
2014 Suicide Story: https://youtube.com/watch?v=LDWWGvORb9I2015 Arkansas John Doe Death:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=wXqPANc46xM2017 Virginia Beach John Doe Death:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=B8Jn7UYHYBA2018 Skyway Bridge Snuff Film:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=omAaPTyGLB8Remember,he isn't actually gonna do it, this is just what ifs he makes up because he is literally Autistically fixated on death and dying.
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Despite him actually doing it,this post still held up,and his pathological obession with death and suicide is why it was so suprising when he actually did do it. I wonder if crying wolf was part of his modus operendi so when he did kill himself, people wouldn't feel as sad (his hypothesis's has been proven wrong)
 
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This is my favorite Winko video and I hope you all enjoy it as much as I do. The walmart dox video being a close second. Fly high Joe Winko, I hope you're with your crazy obsessive stalker man in the afterlife.
 
RasterTatth said:
I have no idea who this is, but man is there a lot of death in the headlines on the ol Kiwi right now.
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If anything happens to Daniel Larson.........

For real though, RIP to this guy. Suicidal ideation is demonic oppression and never, ever the answer. Life is shitty sometimes but you always have a greater purpose, for some it takes a lifetime to find out what it is. For some, they never really know. But that doesn't mean they weren't important. Don't cut your story short. I struggle a few days a month with nasty thoughts but I try to talk with God when I'm feeling unsure about life. Not trying to proselytize but He always helps me.

Sometimes that ideation is the result of feeling trapped by your circumstances in life. Remember, you are always free to change your direction. Often we are only trapped by our perception, not reality. Fly somewhere and start over if you have to. People do it all the time.
 
iamaretard123 said:
A "song" was uploaded into his youtube channel, for some reason it actually captures the sadness of the whole situation. Sometimes you gotta have remorse for some people.

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Heres the local archive:
Joe Winko's Death Song - winko567 (1080p, h264).mp4
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The thing about Joe Winko's suicide is that it wasn't random or spur of the moment,nor was it a week long endeavour. It was planned YEARS in advanced. From the moment he started his YouTube channel until now,it's all been a steady climb to the top,only to fall deep below. Ever since Uncle Romario died he's been planning that awful awful day. He just got distracted along the way...

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