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Convicted pedophile Jeffrey Epstein is dead, law enforcement sources said Saturday.

A gurney carrying a man who looked like Epstein was wheeled out of the Manhattan Correctional Center around 7:30 a.m. The ambulance went to New York Downtown Hospital.
 
The thing that doesn't add up is 'why'.

Ghislaine and Jeffrey were both worth billions in their own right. Why were they coaxing aspiring teenage models into sexual relations with wealthy men? Were they doing this on behalf of intelligence agencies? Were they doing this for their own personal betterment (blackmail material)? How come they couldn't find intermediaries?

BTW I do love how everybody in my family has their own theory on who killed Epstein. One thinks the CIA, one thinks MI5, one thinks Clintons, one originally thought Trump (ughhhhh) but now leans on it being the Royal Family. Personally? It wouldn't even shock me at this stage if it was like Murder on the Orient Express where EVERYONE did it.

Seven pages already and not caught up so maybe someone else has mooted this theory. But Tucker asked why she would be living in a big house in the US when she knew she was on the run. My explanation - she's afraid for her life and figures her best bet is to get arrested publicly rather than be "disappeared" by Mossad.

Note, her dad was a big time Mossad person so they probably wouldn't kill her, but then again, years pass by and faces change - who knows. In any case, there's only two reasons she'd be living there in the current situation that I can see: She wanted to be caught for her own safety. Or she had some kind of assurance from somebody and that somebody either backed out or lost influence.
She's been hanging around Martha's Vinyard, right? If I were her then about a month after Epstein got bumped I'd announce I would be co-operating fully with the investigation. At least the country she did it in would give some insight into who's doing the killing
 
This is fake news, I never met this woman. Whatsisname, y'know, Barry, the guy before me who screwed everything up so I had to fix it, he did for sure. So did, uh, uh, yeah, so did slick Willie! But not me. I certainly wasn't pictured next to her multiple times while pulling that weird smile-slash-scowl thing in do for some reason.
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There has been speculation that's because Andrew is just like his brother...the current heir to the throne.
Ol chuck was BBF's with prolific child rapist Jimmy Savile...who was given free reign in children's wards of NHS hospitals .
Savile even had all of Charles private numbers at places like Windsor and Balmoral.
Diana talked about Charles receiving marriage advice from Jimmy.
Big pals with Maggie T as well. You're not telling me that with all his connections to the top of British society that MI5 didn't know everything about Savile down to what he had for dinner each night.
 
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Then again, I'm not doubting that the establishment is looking at throwing everything they can against the wall to see if it sticks.
 
ohhhh they're using it against Trump. That's the play here.

Because this is not what Ghislaine looks like.

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Trump has never been linked to Epstein in any meaningful way. They were both present at some of the same wealthy New York parties. Epstein's business was to ingratiate himself with powerful people, lure them into doing something illegal or disgusting and then hold that over them for the rest of their lives. He was essentially a celebrity chaser. It's hardly surprising he managed to get some selfies with Trump. What he didn't manage to get was Trump to go to any of his parties or take advantage of any of his exploited girls. In fact, Trump actually blew the whistle on Epstein in a very Trump way, making some little remarks about how Epstein really enjoyed himself with teenage girls. He also, iirc, banned him from his clubs.

I also, fwiw, don't think Trump would want what Epstein was offering. Everything I've ever seen about Trump tells me he wants the most high status women in the room. He wants the supermodels, the gorgeous socialite, the beauty queen. He's chad as fuck. I don't think he has the inner-beta that makes some guys get all turned on by a vulnerable, over-whelmable teenage or poor girl. Trump likes women and he likes them to want him, not girls who will yield because they're too young to realise how you're seen by the women your own age.

That quote was from before he was arrested, IIRC. He was basically shit talking him in a way he couldnot be sued for.

Yep - basically this.


there is a drug they normaly use for somthing like this but i forgot the name...

I believe the generic form is called Appointyourowncoronerquine.
 
Trump has never been linked to Epstein in any meaningful way. They were both present at some of the same wealthy New York parties. Epstein's business was to ingratiate himself with powerful people, lure them into doing something illegal or disgusting and then hold that over them for the rest of their lives. He was essentially a celebrity chaser. It's hardly surprising he managed to get some selfies with Trump. What he didn't manage to get was Trump to go to any of his parties or take advantage of any of his exploited girls. In fact, Trump actually blew the whistle on Epstein in a very Trump way, making some little remarks about how Epstein really enjoyed himself with teenage girls. He also, iirc, banned him from his clubs.

I also, fwiw, don't think Trump would want what Epstein was offering. Everything I've ever seen about Trump tells me he wants the most high status women in the room. He wants the supermodels, the gorgeous socialite, the beauty queen. He's chad as fuck. I don't think he has the inner-beta that makes some guys get all turned on by a vulnerable, over-whelmable teenage or poor girl. Trump likes women and he likes them to want him, not girls who will yield because they're too young to realise how you're seen by the women your own age.

You're probably right, but something doesn't have to be related to be associated, even if the link is spun out of whole cloth.
 
You're probably right, but something doesn't have to be related to be associated, even if the link is spun out of whole cloth.

So in other words, they wont have proof but they'll run with the "no smoke without fire" angle. Possible.

About her upcoming "suicide", however. One of the achievements of Trump has been to severely deplete the Clintons and Co.'s political influence. People think it's all about the money. But having someone bumped off like they did Epstein isn't just about being able to pay people off. It was about being able to assure your people that they would be protected - that things wouldn't go to trial, that investigations wouldn't be initiated or media would brush it to the side. Trump has drained the swamp quite successfully. The bog beasts are still there, but the water is low enough now that we can see them better. Name them, even. The money is still there to arrange things, but the influence to get it ignored is greatly diminished. That's the big blow that Trump has struck against them. Huge amounts of money were invested in Hillary's presidency (they call them campaign donations, I call them advance payments). She couldn't deliver. Now some of the same parties are turning to Biden and whoever his running mate turns out to be. But there's only so long the bogbeasts can survive out in the sunlight. 2020 is a HUGE deal for these people - they don't like the Sunlight.
 
Note, her dad was a big time Mossad person so they probably wouldn't kill her, but then again, years pass by and faces change - who knows. In any case, there's only two reasons she'd be living there in the current situation that I can see: She wanted to be caught for her own safety. Or she had some kind of assurance from somebody and that somebody either backed out or lost influence.
the brits will not kill you in the US, but they already killed a princes in Paris...

I believe the generic form is called Appointyourowncoronerquine.
no, there is some drug that was used for alot of stuff like this but i dont remember the name.
 
I think it's premature to speculate about who (if anyone) in government wants to protect Maxwell, let alone how.
This links straight back into the all-too predictable "hur dur Trump" versus "hur dur Clinton" tard-fighting, and how people will immediately admit it's one group of elites controlling both "parties" though money and influence but still turn around and say "their" side is better without a hint of irony or self-awareness. One "side" wants her protected only so long as she's implicating people on the other, and wants her in "their" custody to make a deal that implicates only the "other" side.

This time around, the contrast is clear because those "partisan" divides are jurisdictional. SDNY wants bad orange man and friends go bye-bye, FBI wants Clinton and friends go bye-bye. The reality is, whoever goes down if anyone will be whomever is least damaging to elites, and whose downfall preserves the status, wealth, and influence of the whole; neither SDNY nor FBI get a whole lot of say in that, because whatever influence might be gotten by shaping the narrative will be memory holed in a media cycle or two.

Whatever Maxwell might have to say will be sealed, just like Epstein. If there are indictments they'll either end in nol-pros or cherry plea deals kept sealed, just like Epstein. Even sparing that, trials will end in mistrial by design, or acquittal. It'll get strung out until it's been memory holed by the press and most if not all the implicated individuals have conveniently croaked.

One of the achievements of Trump has been to severely deplete the Clintons and Co.'s political influence...Trump has drained the swamp quite successfully. The bog beasts are still there, but the water is low enough now that we can see them better.
Trump's had less to do with that over the entire course of his Presidency, than Robby Mook did in six months of electoral campaigning. Going as far back to the first Clinton Presidency, the Clinton wing of the Democratic party consistently and unerringly relied on hands-down the stupidest people in politics, who failed upward because of their political connections which allowed them to succeed despite themselves. Brock, the Podestas, Carville, Summers, Reno, Fredo, all of them are hands-down some of the most tone deaf and politically obtuse motherfuckers who have ever set foot on Capitol Hill, whose only claim to power is their rolodex.

The kind of thing you'd expect from an Arkansas white trash sped who grew up only knowing southern Democratic old boy politics, and cruise controlled straight from that to Ivy League fraternity/secret society influence bartering. Except Slick Willie had charisma and good instincts, and was able to keep his three-ring sped circus from spraying their tard cum all over the news media and all the way down K Street. The Wicked Witch of the West Wing had neither, and nature took its course.

If a single person in Hillary's inner circle, including herself, understood the most basic of American electoral strategy maxims which is that swing states matter and that candidates shouldn't go out of their way to insult voters in them, even accounting for every other systemic fuck-up, grift, and October non-surprise, Trump would never have won in the first place.
 
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Then again, I'm not doubting that the establishment is looking at throwing everything they can against the wall to see if it sticks.
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The banner that reads "Only a fool would believe anything posted here as actual fact" is meant to be observed regularly friend.
 
Big pals with Maggie T as well. You're not telling me that with all his connections to the top of British society that MI5 didn't know everything about Savile down to what he had for dinner each night.

I came across this letter to the paper a few years ago and it basically says the same thing.
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Peter Ball was also close to Thatcher and Chucks Mummy...The Queen.

The FBI has a fat file on the man who Charles says was closer to him than his own father, the man who molded him and who made him the man he is...Lord Mountbatten.
The FBI released some of the documents a couple years ago...Mountbatten was a pedophile with "a perversion for young boys."

Savile had the keys to freaking Broadmoor and was friends with the Yorkshire Ripper Peter Sutcliffe while also playing marriage counselor to the future King of England.
Spending an insane amount of time alone (or in a small private group) with the Prime Minister.
All this and no one knew a thing?

Right.

Like I said...Prince Andrew being tangled up with Epstein is just the tip of the iceberg and if anything, was a product of what he was surrounded with.
He just wasn't watched as closely for "slip ups" because he is not the heir to the throne.
 
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Fun fact: Ghislaine Maxwell is the daughter of colourful British MP and media mogul Robert Maxwell, who died in mysterious circumstances in the early '90s. Something to do with falling off his yacht, the Lady Ghislaine. By all accounts, he was very well connected; he counted a number of Eastern Bloc dictator types and Israeli politicians among his friends.

Make of this what you will.
I remember MST3k had "imitate somebody asking where Mr Maxwell went" as one of their stock jokes for a while when a boat was shown without a clear occupant.
 
I came across this letter the paper a few years ago and it basically says the same thing.

Peter Ball was also close to Thatcher and Chucks Mummy...The Queen.

The FBI has a fat file on the man who Charles says was closer to him than his own father, the man who molded him and who made him the man he is...Lord Mountbatten.
The FBI released some of the documents a couple years ago...Mountbatten was a pedophile with "a perversion for young boys."

Savile had the keys to freaking Broadmoor and was friends with the Yorkshire Ripper Peter Sutcliffe while also playing marriage counselor to the future King of England.
Spending an insane amount of time alone (or in a small private group) with the Prime Minister.
All this and no one knew a thing?

Right.

Like I said...Prince Andrew is just the tip of the iceberg and if anything, was a product of what he was surrounded with.
He just wasn't watched as closely for "slip ups" because he is not the heir to the throne.
On top of all this, even if Savile somehow avoided "formal" vetting as he didn't officially hold any role that would require it, it is a matter of fact that anyone suggested for a knighthood is subjected to such a check. This is to ensure that no "embarrassment" can come to Her Majesty, who, after all hands out the trinkets.
 
On top of all this, even if Savile somehow avoided "formal" vetting as he didn't officially hold any role that would require it, it is a matter of fact that anyone suggested for a knighthood is subjected to such a check. This is to ensure that no "embarrassment" can come to Her Majesty, who, after all hands out the trinkets.

Exactly.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...hook-an-exclusive-interview-with-9571057.html
This article was published around his Knighthood time.
A comedian was messing with dead bodies and sleeping at Broadmoor, this was published in the papers at the time and he was still given knighthood.
This is around the same time Princess Di was getting crap from the Royal Family because the paps would capture her in the tight spandex she liked to workout in.
But ol pal Jimmy messing with dead bodies?
Make him a Sir!

Some keep trying to play off Prince Andrew's ties with Epstein as a one off or the ignored spare syndrome. That no one else in the royal family associated with such a person.

It is anything but.

Hell, Andrew is down right slacking when it comes to the people his parents and brother have willingly associated with for decades.
 
The FBI has a fat file on the man who Charles says was closer to him than his own father, the man who molded him and who made him the man he is...Lord Mountbatten.
The FBI released some of the documents a couple years ago...Mountbatten was a pedophile with "a perversion for young boys."
and he was blown to bits by the IRA....
 
Sweet Jesus.

What? :story:
She's like 58. If she were 90, that'd be "fairly old" and believable. Corona Virus isn't that deadly... well not to slender, fit, white women in middle age.

Unless you're targeted by the Mossadvirus.
 
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