Convicted pedophile Jeffrey Epstein is dead, law enforcement sources said Saturday.
A gurney carrying a man who looked like Epstein was wheeled out of the Manhattan Correctional Center around 7:30 a.m. The ambulance went to New York Downtown Hospital.
Convicted pedophile Jeffrey Epstein died overnight in an apparent suicide, federal officials said Saturday. Epstein, 66, was found unresponsive in his cell in the Special Housing Unit of Manhattan …
I'm fucking with rabid anti pizza gators, not my fault if one of them is a mod. Besides I removed the offending statement and accepted blame for it.
It's not the being "anti-pizza gate" as that's a pretty sane position, so much as "Anything ever said by a pizzagate believer is automatically untrue". It's sort of like the never trumpers, which I got to witness and partially ride along with.
Being a nevertrumper made some sense when the dude was unknown politically. But as he's been president, he's less and less unknown. But lots of people decided they were never Trumpers no matter what, and now they have to deny his every accomplishment.
I think before Saturday a lot of people could push the idea in the back of their heads that the idea of a pedo conspiracy was too outlandish and could comfortably ignore it... but Epstein's suicide really kind of forced them (and myself too, if I'm being completely honest) to really face it. I think the human mind is really good at compartmentalizing to try and keep itself focused, but this is real and it's really happening to innocent children. Brutal wakeup call, but a necessary one.
It's not like this has never happened before. There are countless stories of Kings and nobility bringing young women to sexually serve them. And before, some religions used young people as sacrifices or sexual workers. It's really not that far-fetched to assume that people with money and power will want sexual gratification just like the rest of us. The only difference is that they can get away with things normal people would be put in jail for. If you are horny, you know that raping someone will send you to prison: that creates societal norms for the average citizen. Rulers or millionaires know it won't happen to them so they never care for understand what limitations mean. What happens to a kid whose parents never say "no"? She or he keeps asking more and more. Same thing.
"I was appalled and frankly angry to learn of the (Metropolitan Correctional Center's) failure to adequately secure this prisoner. We are now learning of serious irregularities at this facility that are deeply concerning and demand a thorough investigation. This sex trafficking case was very important to the DOJ and me personally. FBI and the office of the DOJ IG will get to the bottom of what happened and there will be accountability.
Let me assure you that case will continue on against anyone who was complicit with Epstein. Any co-conspirators should not rest easy. Victims deserve justice, and will get it."
And this is exactly why I pointed at the conspiracy charge outlined in the SDNY statement. This case doesn't end with Epstein.
People should forget about the "left" and the "right" and other such pointless political tribalism when it comes to things like this. The rich and powerful all go hand in hand and they don't care about their own meaningless talking points. There's no political spectrum on that level and they're all buddies or at least well-wishers. Everything else is just show for the plebs.
Also re: age of consent, while it's true that there are many western countries where it's lower than 18 it's always connected to a lot of "buts", one of them always universally being that money (buying gifts etc.) or a big power discrepancy between the parties involved (think teacher and pupil) is always illegal. Almost always they also require parental consent. The laws are usually written that way so that you don't get into a situation where the relationship between a 17 year old and 18-19 year old is illegal. They certainly don't allow for cases of old men perving on teens or exploiting them in any way and that's just as illegal in such countries as in the US.
Fucking this. For this, I would happily stand next to an ANTIFA fag in their crappy commie soy LARP armor to get the truth on this. From the far right to the far left, we all agree that this is was a murder by the big wigs who want to cover their own asses. I don't care how much we hate each other, this is fucking vile and it needs to stop now.
Fucking this. For this, I would happily stand next to an ANTIFA fag in their crappy commie soy LARP armor to get the truth on this. From the far right to the far left, we all agree that this is was a murder by the big wigs who want to cover their own asses. I don't care how much we hate each other, this is fucking vile and it needs to stop now.
If we ever find out the whole truth behind this, it's likely both the left and right, and every single person from the political spectrum will realise that the whole intention of our elites was to keep us apart so they can play their games.
Just think for a moment: most world problems nowadays can be easily solved. They aren't because politicians are stupid and corrupt. Both sides think the same, just that they accuse the other side. So, why aren't those problems solved? Because 1. poverty keeps the left entertained by trying to blame the right for it and 2. makes poor people vulnerable.
Now, imagine this in a bigger scale: Haiti's poverty can be solved and fixed... except "lol, we don't want that because then, where we're gonna find our sex-slaves?" Some will resist to accept it, but many leftists will realise they were played dumb and blame it all on Drumpf so powerful people could get away with raping kids.
Here's some stuff crossposted from the pizzagate thread. They are trying so hard to cope. Nothing suspicious, we said there's no conspiracy, so there's no conspiracy!
(After one more wise-ass response I won't paste I was then banned from that thread, I probably deserved it)
So according to the "anti-pizzagators" epstein's death was obviously a suicide and you'd have to be an idiot to think otherwise.
Sorry for the low quality quotes without links, it's accurate unless I mis-pasted something.
I'm an anti-pizzagator and stop attaching your brain-dead disinfo to the Epstein case. There is no basement, the police sketches were of the same person - not the two brothers, and talking about weird codes make you seem like a schizo. There was actually a lot of really revealing info in the leaked e-mails but it was all drowned out by exceptional individuals like you. More people would've been willing to take a peek at the underlying power structures of Washington but were distracted by pizzatard's kvetching about Moloch and hot dogs.
I avoided the Epstein stuff for years because it was attached to pizzagate. You're doing a favor to the people you claim to be against.
The Chris Evans named in the book is not the Captain America Chris Evans. A U.K. phone number is present, and is more likely to be TV presenter Chris Evans, who has invested in and started up a number of prominent media companies, and is married to Billie Piper.
The Chris Evans named in the book is not the Captain America Chris Evans. A U.K. phone number is present, and is more likely to be TV presenter Chris Evans, who has invested in and started up a number of prominent media companies, and is married to Billie Piper.
"In May 2000, (Chris) Evans met teenage pop star Billie Piper, whom he dated for a while. As a present to him, she proposed on his 35th birthday, and the couple married in a £200 ceremony at The Little Church of the West in Las Vegas, Nevada on 6 May 2001"
"Billie Paul Piper (born Leian Paul Piper; 22 September 1982"
"I was appalled and frankly angry to learn of the (Metropolitan Correctional Center's) failure to adequately secure this prisoner. We are now learning of serious irregularities at this facility that are deeply concerning and demand a thorough investigation. This sex trafficking case was very important to the DOJ and me personally. FBI and the office of the DOJ IG will get to the bottom of what happened and there will be accountability.
Let me assure you that case will continue on against anyone who was complicit with Epstein. Any co-conspirators should not rest easy. Victims deserve justice, and will get it."
And this is exactly why I pointed at the conspiracy charge outlined in the SDNY statement. This case doesn't end with Epstein.
I find it curious that respected, influential news sources are poo-pooing conspiracy theories while leaving out the fact Epstein was also charged with conspiracy to traffic minors. Unless he was conspiring with glowniggers, it seems premature to rule out someone out there being well served with this guy being gone, and you'd think a reporter would fucking know that.
Could end up getting negative ratings, but fuck it: it really makes no difference, especially if you're considerably older and you're manipulating the victims. A person who just turned out 18 on Monday won't start making smart decisions than she did during Sunday just because the age change. It makes a difference if your family is well adjusted and you all are aware that, until that age, you've been learning to behave like an adult and you're ready to be an adult. If you come from a broken home and are vulnerable to abuse, it doesn't make it less abusive if they lure you into be a prostitute just because you're eighteen. It is, only not legally.
if you're knowingly participating (and predators know it) in the reenactment of childhood sexual trauma with a legal adult, the "legal" part doesn't eliminate the immorality of what you're doing, IMO.
However, that's also getting dangerously close to saying, "your autonomy doesn't matter, I know better than you do what you should be doing, I'll play the role of your parent, legal adult," and that's pretty fucked up, too. I've talked to sexual trauma survivors, post-therapy, who refused to condemn anyone who engaged in promiscuous, wild sex with them in their legal adult, pre-therapy years. Because everyone involved was an adult, and despite having warped sexual wiring due to abuse, it was what the former victim wanted, and that means it wasn't abusive. What, victims aren't allowed to have sex with partners they choose like every other adult can? Says which philosopher king?
It's a very difficult thing to figure out, philosophically, where that line is with abuse victims. I think that's part of why we just have a "reach this age and you are an adult" point of demarcation.
Just think for a moment: most world problems nowadays can be easily solved. They aren't because politicians are stupid and corrupt. Both sides think the same, just that they accuse the other side. So, why aren't those problems solved? Because 1. poverty keeps the left entertained by trying to blame the right for it and 2. makes poor people vulnerable.
Now, imagine this in a bigger scale: Haiti's poverty can be solved and fixed... except "lol, we don't want that because then, where we're gonna find our sex-slaves?" Some will resist to accept it, but many leftists will realise they were played dumb and blame it all on Drumpf so powerful people could get away with raping kids.
I'm pretty sure poverty is the default human state. And "I would be doing better if you would give what you have to me" has been pretty much disproven as a worldview by eternally growing welfare systems everywhere. But okay...
I'm going to go out on a limb and say most world problems cannot be easily solved.
"In May 2000, (Chris) Evans met teenage pop star Billie Piper, whom he dated for a while. As a present to him, she proposed on his 35th birthday, and the couple married in a £200 ceremony at The Little Church of the West in Las Vegas, Nevada on 6 May 2001"
"Billie Paul Piper (born Leian Paul Piper; 22 September 1982"
I'm an anti-pizzagator and stop attaching your brain-dead disinfo to the Epstein case. There is no basement, the police sketches were of the same person - not the two brothers, and talking about weird codes make you seem like a schizo. There was actually a lot of really revealing info in the leaked e-mails but it was all drowned out by exceptional individuals like you. More people would've been willing to take a peek at the underlying power structures of Washington but were distracted by pizzatard's kvetching about Moloch and hot dogs.
I avoided the Epstein stuff for years because it was attached to pizzagate. You're doing a favor to the people you claim to be against.
We've got to figure out where Maxwell is at first though.
I never said anything about any of those things you're talking about. But yeah, you are perfectly demonstrating what I was complaining about. The anti-pizzagators becoming so invested in every aspect of a silly conspiracy theory being false that you ignored shit like Epstein for years.
I don't exactly see how this makes you more reliable on this, you're admitting you ignored evidence because of a bias against a stupid conspiracy theory...
I never said anything about any of those things you're talking about. But yeah, you are perfectly demonstrating what I was complaining about. The anti-pizzagators becoming so invested in every aspect of a silly conspiracy theory being false that you ignored shit like Epstein for years.
I don't exactly see how this makes you more reliable on this, you're admitting you ignored evidence because of a bias against a stupid conspiracy theory...
I ignored evidence because it was posted in the very same threads about spoopy symbols and weird music videos in alleged Pizza restaurant basements.
I would ignore evidence of Iran Contra if it was posted in a Lizard People thread, sure. Most people would. The blame is on the people who utter the name Epstein in the same breath as "Pizzagate". This is controlled op behavior.
Pizzagators were using the Clinton - Epstein connection to support their allegations against Alefantis and gang. They were actively tainting the whole thing.
if you're knowingly participating (and predators know it) in the reenactment of childhood sexual trauma with a legal adult, the "legal" part doesn't eliminate the immorality of what you're doing, IMO.
However, that's also getting dangerously close to saying, "your autonomy doesn't matter, I know better than you do what you should be doing, I'll play the role of your parent, legal adult," and that's pretty fucked up, too. I've talked to sexual trauma survivors, post-therapy, who refused to condemn anyone who engaged in promiscuous, wild sex with them in their legal adult, pre-therapy years. Because everyone involved was an adult, and despite having warped sexual wiring due to abuse, it was what the former victim wanted, and that means it wasn't abusive. What, victims aren't allowed to have sex with partners they choose like every other adult can? Says which philosopher king?
It's a very difficult thing to figure out, philosophically, where that line is with abuse victims. I think that's part of why we just have a "reach this age and you are an adult" point of demarcation.
Exactly. It's the taboo they're breaking that's the key for them.
Jesus, that's WAY too cynical, even for me.
I'm pretty sure poverty is the default human state. And "I would be doing better if you would give what you have to me" has been pretty much disproven as a worldview by eternally growing welfare systems everywhere. But okay...
I'm going to go out on a limb and say most world problems cannot be easily solved.
I'm going to blow your mind: post-pubescent, sub-18 women being with much older men has been very common throughout all of human history.
That shit is funny as hell coming from that smug cunt Evans, though. I hope someone rubs it in his face. On camera.
I ignored evidence because it was posted in the very same threads about spoopy symbols and weird music videos in alleged Pizza restaurant basements.
I would ignore evidence of Iran Contra if it was posted in a Lizard People thread, sure. Most people would. The blame is on the people who utter the name Epstein in the same breath as "Pizzagate". This is controlled op behavior.
Pizzagators were using the Clinton - Epstein connection to support their allegations against Alefantis and gang. They were actively tainting the whole thing.
And anti-pizzagators are insisting Epstein killed himself and thinking otherwise is a crazy conspiracy theory.
The trick is to use critical thinking instead of crazy absolutes.
You can talk about blame, but you're the one who decides to let a crazy idea attached to a sane one discount the sane part. Santa Claus isn't real, but if you don't believe in the North Pole just because it's part of the santa story you're being dumb.
Is your point that people should praise you for ignoring evidence and being late to Epstein? You are saying you were wrong and it's other people's fault. There are always false narratives, it's no virtue to ignore facts that people have lied about.
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