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From Russia With Love is like Goldfinger or Goldeneye, in that it's so comprehensively good there isn't actually much to add.
I agree but throw in Thunderball in there too, which is my favorite.

Also the Fleming novels are very hit or miss. It takes him a while until he finds his footing but when he does they’re excellent. However you can tell towards the end that he’s running out of ideas and the last couple novels are weak. Having said that, Fleming writing Ebonics in Live and Let Die is amazing 👌🏻
 
The true ending to james bond's story is 1996's the rock

No really. That was the intent of the writer at the time. For obvious legal reasons he couldn't do more than vaguely imply it and its intended as a wink wink situation but the idea is that 'james bond' is an identity given to 007, not who he actually is, explaining the different actors and that at some point sean connery's bond fucked up, got caught and disavowed by the british government and ended up rotting in a US prison in secret for decades
 
The true ending to james bond's story is 1996's the rock

No really. That was the intent of the writer at the time. For obvious legal reasons he couldn't do more than vaguely imply it and its intended as a wink wink situation but the idea is that 'james bond' is an identity given to 007, not who he actually is, explaining the different actors and that at some point sean connery's bond fucked up, got caught and disavowed by the british government and ended up rotting in a US prison in secret for decades
I enjoy that theory. It’s really to Skyfall’s Raoul Silva. Like the Brits abandoning their agents thing.
 
I remember watching Remington Steel, thinking Brosnan would make a great Bond. I wasn't wrong.
 
I found this cool old Lotus

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The Bond franchise really can’t continue though because today’s villains are also society’s heroes. The megalomaniacs of today are today’s benevolent billionaire class, soyentists who fuck around with viruses in government labs, and NGO leaders like Soros or Schwab. Never has there been a better potential era for Bond than now but we’re told to worship these people, not stop them
It’s awkward because intelligence agencies and the British government are controlled by those people. Bond would basically be fighting his bosses’ bosses, and all of them rather than a few bad apples. A rebel vigilante Bond would be more interesting than Daniel Craig quitting every movie because he’s sad about Vesper, but it’d never fly for obvious reasons.
 
Which was the better Bond game?
Nightfire?

Or

Everything or Nothing?
I like both but EoN wins for me because it’s Pierce’s voice and not just his face like Nightfire.
Someone should make an AI mod for Nightfire with Pierce’s voice.
Activision Bond games > EA Bond games.
Are you insane? EA’s bond games are legendary. That run of Agent Under Fire to From Russia With Love is generational.
It's criminal that From Russia With Love hasn't been mentioned more. It's well written, grounded and gritty with that Connery charm to balance it out. Everything you need from a Bond movie.
FRWL was also a fantastic Bond Game.
Top 3 IMO.
 
Are you insane? EA’s bond games are legendary. That run of Agent Under Fire to From Russia With Love is generational.
I just really like Quantum of Solace, Goldeneye remake and 007 Legends as CoD clones tbh and feel they get shat on too hard. Havn't really played AUF and the other EA games, I probably should, but I kept getting stuck on stupid car stages
 
I feel like I need to revisit the Dalton movies again as I don't have strong memories of them.
Dalton was really good as Bond, I think he's highly underrated. After the cheese of the Moore movies, he brought back a more grounded and on-edge Bond. A bit like Craig after the Brosnan movies devolved into pure camp.
All in all I have fond memories of Brosnan, though, the first few were good.
Connery, Dalton, and Brosnan are my favourite Bond actors.
 
The first three Connery flicks are stupidly confy
Also The Rock is canon
 
For Your Eyes Only, You Only Live Twice, and Goldeneye >>>>>>>>

That being said the best Bond themes are done by:

Adele
Chris Cornell
Paul McCartney & Wings
Sheena Easton
Shirley Bassey
A friend of mine likes Garbage’s The World is Not Enough. I too like that song. I also really enjoyed Paul McCartney and Duran Duran.

One that I enjoy the least is Jack White and Alicia Keys. The song was fine until you hear Alicia Keys singing. She was not fit for Jack White at all. Then again, Alicia Keys apparently was an last minute replacement for Amy Winehouse.
 
Elektra King and Miranda Frost are my favourite evil Bond girls. The World Is Not Enough had a great villain/villainess interaction.
 
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