Islamophiles / Regressive Left - Liberal non-Muslims who are desperate to protect the Religion of Peace

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Are the "Harry Potter" books even sold in Islamic countries? I'd imagine they'd be banned due to having sorcery and witchcraft.
 
big baby jesus said:
Are the "Harry Potter" books even sold in Islamic countries? I'd imagine they'd be banned due to having sorcery and witchcraft.
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Welp.
 
If Harry Potter were real, he'd be executed if he went to Saudi Arabia. Some would say "that isn't REAL Islam", but the Quran and hadith makes it clear that witchcraft is both real and a product of Satan. And the penalty for witchcraft is death.

https://islamqa.info/en/search?key=witchcraft

Not sure what the penalty for writing books which glorify witchcraft is though.
 
DICKPICSRUS said:
I wonder when Sjw are gonna turn on Muslims like they did with gay men. My guess it has to do with black people

http://mvslim.com/racism-in-the-muslim-community-are-we-really-one/

Buzzfeed (http://archive.is/WZYE3)
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If you ask me, it's gonna be on homos. Muslims hate fags violently, far more than they hate blacks, and SJWs are naive if they think they can force their few token liberal imams on a people so explosively hostile to the very concept of LGBT. Unlike conservative Christians and Jews, who just separated themselves into different branches when theological liberalism was forced on them, conservative Muslims (which are the majority) demand uniformity, and literally kill any apostates in their midst, so SJWs are gonna be in for a rude awakening if they try to poz them.
 
Foltest said:
there has been a lot of debate about this "phenome" over the years. It has slowed down, but I know that people that questioned it got grilled in the press.
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A cynical side of me wonders if some of the families are putting these kids into a comatose state. My heart goes out to ones that are suffering (and there could be merit to this condition), but with what's going on in Europe, it's hard to be optimistic.
 
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Cosmos said:
They have to go that far back to find atrocities committed in the name of Christianity that are comparable to the atrocities committed in the name of Islam today.
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I've never actually heard a Muslim rage about the Crusades, it's always seems to be young Western progressives. And really these things happened so long ago, I can barely care to let emotions cloud my mind when I read about them, even in detail. It's like when atheists shriek about "The Christian Dark Ages!"
 
Chris did nothing wrong said:
I've nevn er actually heard a Muslim rage about the Crusades, it's always seems to be young Western progressives. And really these things happened so long ago, I can barely care to let emotions cloud my mind when I read about them, even in detail. It's like when atheists shriek about "The Christian Dark Ages!"
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ISIS regular condemns Crusaders in their propaganda, and why not, since France, Britain, Germany, and the United States (descendents of British) are prime enemies (since they regularly bomb ISIS) and after all are the same nations as the Crusaders. And croissant rolls are banned in Islamist-ruled (not just ISIS territory) parts of Syria because of alleged links to the Crusaders.

Even though a nowadays Frenchman is more likely to hate them for trying to kill Charlie Hebdo or the Eagles of Death Metal compared to the traditional Frenchman hating them for refusing Jesus Christ as their savior.
 
Chris did nothing wrong said:
I've never actually heard a Muslim rage about the Crusades, it's always seems to be young Western progressives. And really these things happened so long ago, I can barely care to let emotions cloud my mind when I read about them, even in detail. It's like when atheists shriek about "The Christian Dark Ages!"
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Actually, for centuries, the Crusades were overshadowed by the Mongol conquests. And for good reason; the Mongol invasions resulted in way more loss of life, property, and culture than the Crusades ever did. In particular, the 1258 siege of Baghdad is widely considered to have been the final nail in the coffin of the Islamic Golden Age.

It was only with the rise of Western imperialism in the 1800s-1900s did the memory of the Crusades get resurrected in the Middle East.
 
Cosmos said:
Actually, for centuries, the Crusades were overshadowed by the Mongol conquests. And for good reason; the Mongol invasions resulted in way more loss of life, property, and culture than the Crusades ever did. In particular, the 1258 siege of Baghdad is widely considered to have been the final nail in the coffin of the Islamic Golden Age.

It was only with the rise of Western imperialism in the 1800s-1900s did the memory of the Crusades get resurrected in the Middle East.
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The Crusades get brought up a lot in jihadist discourse because they were an eventual victory for Muslims over Christian invaders. It's similar to how Mussolini attempted to compare his Italy to the Roman empire, since those were the days when Italians dominated the Mediterranean, or why modern Turkey tries to evoke the Ottomans. History often gets dragged up and distorted for propaganda purposes, but only when it fits the narrative to do so.
 
Chris did nothing wrong said:
I've never actually heard a Muslim rage about the Crusades, it's always seems to be young Western progressives. And really these things happened so long ago, I can barely care to let emotions cloud my mind when I read about them, even in detail. It's like when atheists shriek about "The Christian Dark Ages!"
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OT but the "christian dark ages" reeeing is bullshit for the exact same reason - scientific progress was being made during the "dark ages" and it was mostly driven and financed by the damn church itself.
 
Alec Benson Leary said:
OT but the "christian dark ages" reeeing is bullshit for the exact same reason - scientific progress was being made during the "dark ages" and it was mostly driven and financed by the damn church itself.
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I remember reading that the "Dark Ages" myth was created and perpetuated by Romance/Enlightenment thinkers in an effort to make themselves seem more smart and important.

Also, the era is called the "Dark Ages," not because it was a "dark" period in human history, but because the historical record literally went dark for centuries. There are a lot of gaps in the historical record for the time period between the collapse of the Roman Empire and the beginning of the Renaissance.
 
Alec Benson Leary said:
OT but the "christian dark ages" reeeing is bullshit for the exact same reason - scientific progress was being made during the "dark ages" and it was mostly driven and financed by the damn church itself.
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It's more that clergy were the main class of people to be literate, since they had to read and copy the Bible in the days before printing. Obviously those people also made up most of the scholars of the day, since they had access to books and prior knowledge.

After the collapse of the Western Roman Empire, there was a time when not a lot was written down in Western Europe due to the turmoil of the Migration Era meaning that people had more important things to do than write books. Even then, most societies had some literate people. In the eastern Mediterranean, where Christianity had originated, though, this wasn't the case, and the eastern empire had held most of the empire's wealth even before the fall of Rome itself. The so called "dark ages" only apply to Western Europe, but it seems that these kinds of people, for all they whine about diversity, know very little about the history of other parts of the world.
 
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