Islamophiles / Regressive Left - Liberal non-Muslims who are desperate to protect the Religion of Peace

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the kind of excuses people make for islam is ridiculous imo. if isis and radical islam wasn't actually islam but christianity, the same people who defend their actions would turn their minds faster than sonic on crack and start bashing them and yelling about the west being terrible and white males ruining society.

I live in sweden, and after the attack in stockholm i swear there were more posts on my facebook feed saying 'b-but christians can be terrorists too!! don't hate on islam !!! these aren't religious people!! muslims would never do something like this!!' than actual support for the people who were there and the ones affected. people would rather go out and be happy and hug each other on the streets like they're celebrating than give the families and friends of the people affected some time to mourn the people who they lost or those who were hurt. it's a fucking circus. i could go on about the shit government and how they're doing nothing in fear of being 'racist' and xenophobic but that's a bit off topic.

regardless, i hope that the left manages to get their heads out of their ass soon and stops making excuses for killers and terrorists because of their beliefs, but maybe that's being optimistic.
 
TheImportantFart said:
The funny thing is, they'll actually point this out to prove... something? I guess the fact that Muslims are the primary victims of Islamic violence proves that it's not all Muslims or... yeah, I got nothing.
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I believe the purpose of using that as a point is to state that most of the victims of terrorism/extremism are Muslims themselves. DAESH has bombed my country Kuwait, Tunisia, and even Iraq and Syria where most of them are located. And that's just the tip of the iceberg.

They even burnt alive a Jordanian pilot who was confirmed to be Muslim.

Any Muslim who disagrees with what they do is considered fair game.
foxgore said:
the kind of excuses people make for islam is ridiculous imo. if isis and radical islam wasn't actually islam but christianity, the same people who defend their actions would turn their minds faster than sonic on crack and start bashing them and yelling about the west being terrible and white males ruining society.

I live in sweden, and after the attack in stockholm i swear there were more posts on my facebook feed saying 'b-but christians can be terrorists too!! don't hate on islam !!! these aren't religious people!! muslims would never do something like this!!' than actual support for the people who were there and the ones affected. people would rather go out and be happy and hug each other on the streets like they're celebrating than give the families and friends of the people affected some time to mourn the people who they lost or those who were hurt. it's a fucking circus. i could go on about the shit government and how they're doing nothing in fear of being 'racist' and xenophobic but that's a bit off topic.

regardless, i hope that the left manages to get their heads out of their ass soon and stops making excuses for killers and terrorists because of their beliefs, but maybe that's being optimistic.
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The biggest problem is the far-left's claim that EVERY Muslim is a good, upstanding citizen. That's not true.
Though many of us ARE good people, there's a major problem with terrorists and people with extremely-conservative beliefs. Unless these splinter beliefs get weeded out we'll have to expect more incidents.
 
ConcernedAnon said:
What forces are acting to create all these loons? I don't understand it at all.
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The millennials' thirst for popularity and social media presence. They get popularity points by playing the progressive democrat card, other millennials starving for their five minutes of e-fame flock to them, then retweet/share their posts, giving them the illusion that they're important.

Then they realize their popularity hinges entirely on them continuing to spout SJW-bullshit, and given how malleable most of them are, they end up convincing themselves they're modern heroes in shining armor. They get trapped inside the SJWs' closed circle, and from there they happily spread their gospel.

Eventually they are noticed by lazy "journalists" of the Huffington Post (if you can even call them that) who give them a greater audience than usual. Other shitty HP-like websites do the same and before you know it it has snowballed into this toxic, widespread school of thought.
 
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Cosmos said:
Before we start, I should point out that there's absolutely nothing wrong with defending Muslims from bigotry. You can (and should) criticize Islam without advocating hatred towards the people who follow it. The problem with Islamophiles is that they're making it much harder for Islam to modernize and reform. They shut down any discussion about the problems present in Islamic ideology/certain Muslim communities. Not only that, they often try to shut down secular Muslims/former Muslims like Maajid Nawaz, Ayaan Hirsi Ali, and Irshad Manji.
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I'm glad someone said it...

Kinda unrelated but back in my undergrad days in my Psy 241 class (Crit Thinking) my professor kinda touched on the subject of religious extremism and the left-right paradigm to reacting to religiously inspired mass murders.

She basically said to gauge your honest reaction if the religions were switched around.

Would liberals be as tolerant of Islam's rules against women's rights and personhood if it was under Christianity? Would conservatives be as supportive of including religion into government and schools if it was under the banner of Islam?
 
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I would personally say Islamic Terrorists arent Islamic. They just use the religion as a tool to legitimize themselves to their own people and to help recruitment.

Ruin said:
The Southern Poverty Law Center lists the Pulse massacre as "right wing anti gay violence" on their website seriously.
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religion is part of the right wing.
 
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Something that annoys me is whenever there's attack and people haven't confirmed who did it yet, there's people who are like 'please don't let this be a muslim'


a) You're more worried about the attacker than the victims and

b) they're cool with some other group being a mass killer, just so that people saying that muslims have a habit of exploding people aren't shown as right.
 
Yo @Ntwadumela do you think these folks are one of the cruxes that is not allowing for the whole of Islam to reform or at least leave behind the crazy murderous paths? Like even the Imams who are condemning terrorists say they dislike how westerners "whitewash" these events.
 
haven't read the entire thread yet, so sorry if this has already been adressed:

I find it especially hypocritical how these islamophiles treat ex-muslims who still live in mayority muslim countrys and have to live in fear of persecution. those regressive "leftys" have nothing but hate for ex-muslims who dare to criticize their religion or their government, when they know more about the dangers of islam and lack of secularism than any westerner who plays politics as a hobby ever will. it's batshit insane. oh and also how it's ok and encouraged to shit on christianity but a hate crime to even allude islam may not be the most progressive religion in the world. why is one religion better than the other, especially when they're as similiar as christianity and islam? (seeing as they're both abrahamic religions)

edit: reading through I see this has been adressed, though mostly with "celebritys", though I was thinking more about your every-joe (every-yusuf?). on social media it's pretty common for white liberals and western muslims to gang up on ex-muslims and critics from majority muslim countries.
 
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foxgore said:
the kind of excuses people make for islam is ridiculous imo. if isis and radical islam wasn't actually islam but christianity, the same people who defend their actions would turn their minds faster than sonic on crack and start bashing them and yelling about the west being terrible and white males ruining society.

I live in sweden, and after the attack in stockholm i swear there were more posts on my facebook feed saying 'b-but christians can be terrorists too!! don't hate on islam !!! these aren't religious people!! muslims would never do something like this!!' than actual support for the people who were there and the ones affected. people would rather go out and be happy and hug each other on the streets like they're celebrating than give the families and friends of the people affected some time to mourn the people who they lost or those who were hurt. it's a fucking circus. i could go on about the shit government and how they're doing nothing in fear of being 'racist' and xenophobic but that's a bit off topic.

regardless, i hope that the left manages to get their heads out of their ass soon and stops making excuses for killers and terrorists because of their beliefs, but maybe that's being optimistic.
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I saw the same shit myself. I was angry over those fuckers who cried "what about muslims!!!!" Fuck them and fuck islam to the bone. It is always the same after a terrorist attack committed by muslims. All the same time.
 
Foltest said:
I saw the same shit myself. I was angry over those fuckers who cried "what about muslims!!!!" Fuck them and fuck islam to the bone. It is always the same after a terrorist attack committed by muslims. All the same time.
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Its the entire problem now, we cannot address the problem if we are constantly hampered by #ridewithyou and all that crap. it is a war on a idea itself. and that war is not being helped every time some idiot screeches RELIGION OF PEACE YOU FUCK!

Absolute insanity.
 
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