Islamophiles / Regressive Left - Liberal non-Muslims who are desperate to protect the Religion of Peace

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Again, the point is not that violence is unique to Muhammad. Rather, the permanent command that followers commit violence, even ~1400 years after his death, is unique. The various great killers of history killed in their day in service of a political agenda that wasn't meant to span the course of human history. Muhammad theologized his violence and pedophilia so that he could make it a permanent obligation.

Well it seems that there are about the same amount of people who agree with either of us. Let's call a draw and go back to making fun of people who think religious mania makes any part of the world a better place.
 
Yo folks at hispanic lands is islamophiles an issue there with you too? Or is it just white first world crap? Bc I know japans want none of this shit.
AWFULLY late to the party but let me share my spare change.

Short answer: No, they are not. Yet.

Why? Well, because we still have a very fragile, young and stupid version of your classic western democracy so there isn't much to ideologically conquer. Some presidentes here last 2 or 3 mandates or even forever depending on how up the ass their heads lie and the only religion they follow is money and power.

Argentina (my homeland) got two major terrorist attacks in the 90's killing over 300 people and there isn't still a solid lead of which group did it, even when the former president confessed having a diplomatic crisis with Hezbollah that ended when they killed his son. Nobody cared and the guy is still a senator.
Chile had a literal Nazi who killed half their politically active population in the 70's and the only things they have now is earthquakes and fish. Their president is still a far-right cunt but seems to handle things quite well. Again, there isn't much over there anyway.
Brazil got out of the banana republic economic model of the 90's and got taken over by Commies so corrupt and inept that somehow they got themselves impeached even with a majority in congress. Also, they are RAGING EVANGELICALS to the point most of the narcos are linked to the church. No Islam in the land of Baby Jeezus.
Bolivia is meaningless and as long as those coca leaves keep being exported they'll continue to make do. They are being run by Commies too and the major religion there worships a spirit of nature or some shit.
Venezuela is a major clusterfuck and no one wants to get their hands on that mess. Not even the muslin.
Uruguay is a spot on the map. Literally. With a population of only 3.5 million people, their strength is comparable to one of our mid-size cities.
I can't speak for those countries further north but I know El Salvador just got out a civil war and still recovering.

In short, if there are dormant ISIS cells or whatever group of towel heads pop around, nobody cares or defend them because we have a bigger, nastier shit sandwich to collectively eat. I see women in burkas pullulating some parts of the city but they are still as rare as afro-americans (one in every 100), still an oddity we tolerate and ignore.
 
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I found a rare example of non-liberal Islamophilia:

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When fucking incels are praising the way you treat your women, something's wrong.
 
I don't know which type of Islamophile is worse, the Incel Islamophile or the SJW/Regressive Leftist Islamophile.
 
I don't know which type of Islamophile is worse, the Incel Islamophile or the SJW/Regressive Leftist Islamophile.

Definitely liberal islamophilia. The incel/MRA/hardcore conservative type of islamophilia is consistent and makes sense, even if it's infuriating. (after all they share the same ideals concerning women and gays)

But for feminists who support "bad@s" women and go around screaming "I'M SO GAY" every five minutes to support this ideology...It's really strange.
 
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https://www.reddit.com/r/Incels/com...ot_brownblack_fake_convert_to_islam/?sort=top

Agnostic 'muslim' here. If I was white this is what I would do. No questions asked. You don't have to believe in the whole 72 virgins mumbo jumbo. Just do it. There are so many good fucking reasons I can't even list all of them in one post. Here i go:

  1. Being an outsider. Islam is full of brown/black subhumans men like myself. By virtue of being brown you are one of another of the beta normies. However.....if you are not brown/black you win. Big time. Your SMV skyrockets. Believe me on this. I've seen it myself with the ugliest looking short deformed neckbeard white dudes who are treated like gods by other Muslims. You get special treatment just cause your not brown. You are worth more then most every other guy around you and in the at least top 10-5%. Being not brown/black>>>>>being brown/black

  2. No virgin shaming. At all. No one gives a shit in Muslim communities since it's quite common. In fact it's better cause it shows your commitment to Allahs will or something. No one sees you as this inferior beta. They see you as above the debaucherous people around you and as a strong family values preserving alpha future leader of the clan. I know. Crazy stuff.

  3. Brotherhood and community. You will generally get along with the people around you quite well. Since most of the activities don't involve alcohol or drugs you'll be invited alot to play sports or tag along for some clubs, meetups or other activities. You may or may not develop good bonds with the people around you depending on who you hang out with. But generally they are very accepting people.

  4. The women. Not always but mostly virgins. Usually uni educated depending on which country their from. Well mannered, don't sleep around, don't usually drink/smoke, less confrontational, somewhat sexually repressed (have a desire to fuck the forbidden fruit I.e: non brown/black men), very few branch swingers/cock carousel riders cause of societal pressures. Also verrrry hot under the headscarves especially if they're Lebanese, Jordanian, Irani, Turkish, Syrian or if they're upper middle class or from any of the non third world countries.

  5. Proposals. You will have plenty. Trust me. Its usually through family or friends. Like your aunt's friend will send you pictures of a girl she knows and you can decide if you like her or not and then you guys can meet up, talk, date and get married, (though no sex before that). I'll elaborate on this on my next point. The process very transactional by nature but you will eventually win. Cause here's why:

  6. You are the prize. Women fight for you. Not the other way around like here I the west. For me personally. I'm 21, Paki Canadian, 5'11, fairly well educated, average looks and deeply blackpill incel. Yet deep down I know one reality that other incels dont have the privilege of knowing. I know, that I can marry most hot Muslim girls just by the fact that I am above the average brown male and since dating is scarce for women I am literally the best choice for alot of them. I know that if all else fails I can very very easily get with my aunt's friends daughter from Yale law school or something. I don't have to settle for a single mom from Idaho. I know y'all are thinking I'm high or something but trust me. On my part I have no worries of being single forever, cause my safeguards are so strong. All thanks to Islam. Even though I'm an agnostic and hate parts of Islam I'll never reveal that cause I know all the perks I'm gettjng. Now imagine if I was a shade whiter. I'd be sky high SMV. I'm not even kidding.
When a culture exists where men aren't all sucking up to and put down by women, men flourish. That's true equity and honestly I think that's the way it should be. Islam may be wrong about alot of things but not gender dynamics. When you read articles of mass increase in Muslims and extinction of whites why do you think that is? We're sure as fuck not better looking or smarter then them. I can admit that. But its cause the system is so well planned no man gets left behind. In the end almost all men win somehow. We almost all get married and have stable nuclear households and good wives. Most Muslims aren't even the crazy Salafi bearded types you see on TV and can fit into western culture. Plus shit of your faking it like me it's even better cause you get the double lifestyle of being a non Muslim and Muslim. You don't have to believe in shit. Plus you get the badboy streak and further raise your SMV. Is it the best solution? No. I still feel blackpilled at times. But practically speaking I will get laid one way or another. I'm a 100% certain of that That's why I think fake conversion to Islam is the way to go.


https://www.reddit.com/r/Incels/comments/6o33le/islam_is_the_only_opportunity_i_have/?sort=top

I am 23, in the UK and I will join Islam to get a woman AND be treated equally with respect.

In Islam there is a "holy" rule where people should marry according to their social class (read : looks+money+status). But still if you are 4/10 in a Western Country on a minimum wage you will get a fat muslim girl that is likely a virgin or had no more than 2 husbands before her. She will be 4/10 too. Plus muslim women have decent skin and exotic faces. The moment you join Islam, you get a social circle with people who are nice and kind to you. I am benefitting this even now, as a "convert". I think this is the best perk.

Alimony and involving the court system is a sin in Islam. Marriage is arranged usually after the first time you talk to the woman and it's only a holy ceremony. No wedding and bullshit involved. You must provide shelter, food and and the big, black, polyester bin bags they wear. If she manages to find a way to cheat while she is always inside the house, then her family+friends will abandon her. I am integrated in muslim circles for 2 months now and go to mosques (read: club for men) and I am telling you the truth. You are free to find out for yourself. There are online muslim communities. Ask them. If a divorce happens(holy divorce) you must continue to provide for 3 months, by muslim law, no more. By the way the period is 3 months because they usually find a new one for 3 months.

She has the right to refuse sex only if you are drunk or if she is sick and went to the doctor and he confirms.

Getting a wife in Islam is easy as the men in the mosques will tell their wives to present her single friends and word will go around. It happens. I saw. Also there are websites like www.singlemuslim.co.uk

Think about it, if sex in Islam is allowed only through marriage, average women are left out for average men. I haven't met a muslim who knows a guy who has 4 brides, like western people think. Only leaders have that many.

Get a fat arabic girl ASAP. It's still human contact and muslimahs have decent skin and exotic faces.

Inb4 negativism cope that all the muslim Chads have harem with 1000 brides - lies. You are talking out of your ass. Not true. Die.

I am not a muslim and don't believe in a messenger. Fuck Muhammad and if you do choose Islam, please never lose your common sense and don't ever believe in muhammad.

Sidenote: when mudslimes savage out the western cucks I will get to be one of them and survive. Woooot.

Edit 1: lol forgot to mention - while your wife is on period, it's forbidden for you two to talk, because, and I quote the Quran, she is mad in those days. This fact alone illustrates Islam. A religion for men.

Edit 2: caucasian muslims are not a rare thing. The whole area under Russia is a muslim territory and they are white. Also being a convert is not as rare as you might think, a lot of men like me figured it out and I am not a genius.

Edit 3: ISIS is created by the US. There are tons of evidence one google search away, first results. Obviously they created it to have a reason to "save" countries i.e. rob them out of their resources and ALSO to keep you all away from Islam because it's so good.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Incels/com...the_last_hope_against_female_bs_and/?sort=top

Islam is the last defense wall against feminism

I'm not religious, I'm a realist. Therefore I know the fall of Islam will mean the final victory of feminism, and this will be the point of no return.

You can not be against feminism AND be against Islam. This is an unsolvable paradox. Islam is the LAST defense wall against feminism. You either support it or you're pro-feminism.

If Islam falls, your final days are coming. You will not be able to fight and protect your rights, cause you're too weak. You have been cucked to oblivion. Therefore, there's only ONE final solution, ONE last fortress wall.

The destruction of Islam = the final destruction of man.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Incels/comments/6rxey5/could_islam_be_our_true_salvation/?sort=top

No I'm not saying convert to the sand people religion. But rather adopt some key beliefs when it comes to dealing with females. Such as taking away all of their rights and letting it be known that a female is worth far less than a male. That their opinions do not matter and their feelings and sexuality sure as fuck don't matter. That they are to be the property of whatever man decides he wants them or who their father decides to give them to. They will have no agency and they can be treated as we see fit.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Incels/com...ls_should_consider_to_support_islam/?sort=top

I know this sound silly, but at the end of this post it will all make sense. Im not here to actually convince to you that Allah exist, because he doesn't. Im an atheist myself but I pose as a muslim and I do that because I see what Islam does to countries. Islam is the biggest anti-chad religion there is and I know that if Islam gains enough influence in my country(sweden) It will be considerably easier to earn pussy. Islam originated as a religion but it also doubles as a tool to distribute women among men and this is the sole reason why Incels should become a '' muslim '' and support it.

There is literally nothing to lose for Incels to support Islam and Islamic immigration. By doing that not only will you be fucking chads over while you will also be increasing your own chance of getting laid. And for those that think that supporting Islam will be too slow to affect your life time, you're wrong. Islam has almost taken power in sweden and It won't be long till I get a muslim wife and end my celibacy.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Incels/com...nly_religion_that_understands_women/?sort=top

I'm done of hearing bullshit from the media everyday without then knowing what they're truly talking about. No one talks about Judasim and how it hates women, because of course, we all know the Jewish propaganda in the media. I'll discuss the points which the media accusing Islam of and explain them.

it's justified in Islam to hit women and oppress them

It's justified in two cases.

1- If your wife cheated on you with another man (Chad)

2- If your wife doesn't want to have sex with you for a long time and FOR NO REASON (beta cucks)

Islam Oppresses women because it forces them to wear Hijab and Burka

Burka is not a commitment, it's a choice, but Hijab is. You may think that it's unfair to women, but literally everything in women makes men horny. And due to men having higher testosterone, their sex drives is far much higher than women. And women can't understand logic, if you gave them much freedom, they would ruin it. Just take a look at the west and how women are constantly wearing extremely slutty cloths with no shame because there're no consequences.

Islam is unfair because men can marry 4 women, but women can't marry 4 men

To marry 4 women there must be some conditions. First, your wife must approve of the marriage, second you have to be rich to be able to provide for all of them, third you can't have a favorite one amongst them and ignore the others.

Men are naturally competitors and women are choosers, it's a simple biology. If a woman married 3 or 4 men, she would be a cum dumpster, thus losing her value. And back in the day when there was no technology, you couldn't have known which one is the kid's father and that would have created conflicts between people. Just think about it. Do you accept to marry a woman who has multiple partners ? But women sometimes accept to marry a man if he fucks another women. Of course, if he is a chad or rich.

Islam is unfair to women because they can't rule a country

95% of the countries in the west are ruled by men, and the reason for that is obvious. WOMEN DON'T UNDERSTAND LOGIC. They always think with their emotions and instincts instead of their brains, and that would be a huge risk to take when you have millions of people living in one country. Just one emotional, blind, stupid decision and their lives could be ruined.

Islam is the only religion that really understands women and their nature, and it's not oppressive in anyway possible to women. Just take a look at the west. Women are ruining the western civilization because there's nothing to control them and their actions. Remember, the redpill, the bluepill, MGTOW, feminism, all of them started in the west because of women there.

If you have anything to disprove any of my points, just discuss it and i shall respond.
 
How the hell do incels get the idea that Islam will make it easier for their sorry ass to fuck? The fact that Islam allows up to four wives (and acknowledge that equal treatment is impossible between multiple wives) should make it more difficult for men to find wives because Islam creates a situation that if there is a 1:1 ratio between men and women, many men will inevitably be a loser, especially since that women cannot have multiple husbands.
They won't attack non-christian religions because they are racist. Islam may treat many millions of women and lgbt people as subhuman and without rights, but all of that is "over there" instead of the suburbs where they live in their parents' mcmansions, and they believe that only christians have the power to impose hurtful laws on them - those silly brown people who eat sand all day won't ever actually make me wear a burka here in America, and deep down I know their holy book is dumb and they're dumb for following it, so I'll treat them like children instead of potential threats.

It's the soft bigotry of low expectations in full swing.
Which is a naive assumption, spawn from the refusal to put themselves in difficult situations even if it would benefit their own lives. They claim to be globalist by saying "fuck America" yet refuse to refuse to acknowledge the perspectives of anything non-Western. What they also do not realize is that Islam is having an effect on social media meant for use by everyone such as YouTube, Twitter, and Instagram by working to censor out offensive contents (making Google's claim of fighting "terror contents" bullshit) and atheistic contents will eventually be on the hit list because of "oppressing Muslims". The West will not be a safe haven for their bitching about "evil straight white male Christians" forever. Unless civilization finally decides to eliminate Wahhabi Islam, fundamentalist Muslims will force them to convert, pay jizyah, or die. Of course since they have no money, they can't opt for the least absymal option of paying jizyah.
This is really sad because I bet a lot of these older people were alive in the 70's.

Here's Iraqi women in the 70's:
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And in 2017:
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Looking at that you feel like the images should be reversed. But no, Islam has actually brought Middle Eastern society backwards in the last 30 years. People act like everyone has always worn Niqabs and Burqas but actually it was forced on them fairly recently.
From what I've heard (at least on Kiwi Farms), it didn't even start out that way for Muslims (except for Muhammad's wives). But yes, these pictures are sad to compare.

Here you have 70s Iraqi women reading books together (not sure if it is Qu'ran or not), presumably heading their way towards great careers and bright futures. They are also beautiful and free to express themselves.

Compare that to today. They are oppressed by a patriarchal system with unrealistic expectations and not allowed to express themselves in any way other than niqabs and burqas. They look dehumanized, miserable, and ugly (when they really aren't).

It's so disappointing that an entire gender are confined under rigid social structure that will not bend to the detriment of Iraq's -- and most Muslim-majority countries -- society.
In the Land Down Under, One Nation senator Pauline Hanson wore a burka to Question Time as part of a stunt to announce her intention to Ban the Burka, predictably this has generated some salt.

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Shorten: "Let's ignore Pauline Hanson by calling her evil for wanting to ban something that Muslim women totally loves wearing!"

In other words, it proves Hanson's point. Burqas dehumanize women because it takes away non-verbal communication, which makes them objects for men.

It's only because they are brown people. Has nothing to do with what Muslims actually believe or do but because they are not white not only do they get a free pass you're not supposed to say anything about them or question the shit they do or you're a horrible racist and should die.
Are Arabs not more related to Caucasian people than Hispanics, Asians, or Africans? I do not think that calling Arabs "brown people" is accurate, especially since South Asians and Hispanics practice Hinduism, Buddhism, and Christianity in significant numbers.

Definitely liberal islamophilia. The incel/MRA/hardcore conservative type of islamophilia is consistent and makes sense, even if it's infuriating. (after all they share the same ideals concerning women and gays)

But for feminists who support "bad@s" women and go around screaming "I'M SO GAY" every five minutes to support this ideology...It's really strange.
It's due to lack of education on what Islam is, and the assumption by SJWs that if they trash Christianity, it will destroy the evil patriarchy. Incel islamophilia in comparison has practically no influence because bad ideals spread better through deceit than honesty.
 
This article is from 2014 and it still holds to this day. It also makes me angry.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/aug/04/international-women-oppression-feminism
Here's a highlight:
The righteous fight for bare minimums doesn’t have much of a ring to it. The goal of feminism is justice – not to just be better off than other oppressed women. There’s no such thing as equal by comparison.
"Even if our first world country is 1000x better than the Middle 'Don't drive or else' East, we're all equally oppressed anyways!"
 
Vancouver Pride float protesting Sharia law acceptable in 2011, but banned in 2017
Shawn Shirazi is angry about cultural relativism and the growing unwillingness of people here to criticize radical Islam for fear of being labelled racist or Islamophobic.

Born in Iran, Shirazi immigrated to Vancouver where he became a founding member of Cirque de So Gay, an activist group of gay and transgender Middle Eastern men. For several years, the group marched in the Pride Parade and even won an award for their originality. But this year, its application was rejected as “culturally insensitive.”

The rejection is a microcosm of what Shirazi calls “hypocrisy” when it comes to global human rights, but what others argue is showing respect for other cultures and religious traditions.

Its application described it as “casting off the shroud of oppression to unveil the Persian Princess beneath … The Islamic attire is more than just a piece of black fabric. It’s a tool used by governments to impose absolute control and authority over their citizens and even tourists.”

The intent was to encourage dialogue about oppression and individual freedom, “so people can express themselves as they choose, without threat of being flogged, stoned or beheaded.”

It was all too much for the parade organizers.

Vancouver Pride Society’s co-executive director Andrea Arnot said in an interview that organizers thought Cirque de So Gay made light of a nuanced issue.

“Many women choose to wear burkas. It’s part of their identity, their religion and their culture,” she said. “Of course, there are places where it’s enforced.”

Arnot says organizers found its proposal “quite shocking.”

“When I asked other people who are from that cultural or religious background, they said it was offensive,” she said. “I definitely wanted to be sensitive to what is happening in our communities right now.”

Yet, what Cirque de So Gay proposed was exactly what it did at the 2011 Vancouver Pride Parade — dancers threw off their body and face coverings to reveal very little underneath.

So, what’s changed? Nothing and almost everything.

Not much in countries like Iran where theocratic governments require women to dress in certain ways whether it’s the full-coverage burka, the face-covering (with eyes showing) niqab or a hijab head scarf, with face showing.

That’s despite growing protests such as #WhiteWednesdays in Iran where women replace their usual black hijabs for white ones. It’s an extension of the My Stealthy Freedom movement that began after Iranian exile Masih Alinejad posted a photo of herself outside with her hair uncovered.

But closer to home, the political climate is changing.

There’s Trump, his attempted Muslim bans, and Charlottesville, while in Canada there have been hate crimes.

This January, a gunman opened fire on Muslims praying at a Quebec City mosque, killing six men and wounding 19 others. In July, the same mosque received a defaced Qur’an and a note suggesting that they use a hog farm as their cemetery.

The responses have been varied.

Quebec’s Bill 62 would ban the provision of government services to anyone wearing a niqab or a burka. Ostensibly, it’s being done in the name of secularism over religion, although that rings a bit hollow when a crucifix hangs in its National Assembly.

Federally, the Liberal government has gone in the opposite direction. In 2015, it ended Ottawa’s four-year court battle to force women to unveil when taking the oath of citizenship.

The issue of religious/cultural/ethnic accommodation and whether the state has any right to force anyone — women or men — to wear (or not wear) certain items of clothing bedevilled candidates at this weekend’s federal NDP leadership debate.

At one end of the spectrum is Niki Ashton, who fully supports Quebec’s proposed ban. At the other is Jagmeet Singh, who acknowledged that his own choice to wear a turban and beard — symbols of his Sikh religious beliefs — may well cost him votes.

Cloaked within the niqab debate, hidden by notions of cultural relativism, multiculturalism and accommodation is the more serious question.

What exactly are Canadians doing within all communities both here and abroad to promote, empower and enhance women’s rights so that women can make choices about everything from what they will wear to what they will do with their lives?

Iranian exile and activist Alinejad frequently talks about being silenced.

“It doesn’t matter where I am whenever I want to talk about women’s rights, there are a lot of people saying ‘Shhh, not now here in the West,’” she said recently.

“‘Shhh. Islamophobia. Donald Trump is around.’ ‘Shhh. This is not the right time now to talk about extremism and the restrictive laws, the Sharia laws.’”

In their small way, that silencing is what Shirazi and his group, who have their own experiences with oppression, thought they could highlight.

But what they were told was ‘Shhh. Not here. Not now. We don’t want to fuel Islamaphobia.’

Criticizing the religious/political/legal system where gay people are executed for being gay is totally inappropriate in a gay pride parade, guys.
 
Canadian Muslim site defends FGM, says the Jewish controlled media is spreading lies about it and that female circumcision has medical benefits. Also, the brutal FGM in Sub Saharan Africa has NOTHING to do with Islam. TL;DR we civilized Muslims are nothing like those nigger savages.

Thankfully attitudes about this are changing quickly. If I told you there are people calling for fawtas against FGM, you'd probably laugh. But it's happening, and people are using the Quran as evidence that it's wrong. Yeah it's a case of being "right for the wrong reasons", but I'll take it.

http://www.stopfgmmideast.org/fatwas-against-fgm/
 
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"American Christians would be offended too if Muslims were to erect a giant statue of Muhammad in the US"

Islamophiles once again showing how ignorant they actually are of Islam. Images of Mohammad are strictly prohibited, which is why people get murdered over cartoons of Muhammad. Also, nice whataboutism. "American Christians are totally as bad as Muslims, guys, don't ever forget it!!" I would take bitching about Starbucks cups over what goes on in the Muslim world any day.
 
and when you tell them to read up about Islam and learn more about it, they'll just accuse you of being a racist. In their minds, they know it's a hateful religion like most other religions, but they don't want to learn the horrible truth that they're defending something that would normally clash horribly with their beliefs, so they prefer to live in blissful ignorance.
Or they just think disagreeing with "brown people" is racism, and nothing more.
 
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"American Christians would be offended too if Muslims were to erect a giant statue of Muhammad in the US"

Islamophiles once again showing how ignorant they actually are of Islam. Images of Mohammad are strictly prohibited, which is why people get murdered over cartoons of Muhammad. Also, nice whataboutism. "American Christians are totally as bad as Muslims, guys, don't ever forget it!!" I would take bitching about Starbucks cups over what goes on in the Muslim world any day.
Erika Hall also conveniently leaves out that if American christians condemned a statue of some other religious figure being built in America she would be vehemently condemning them. Her analogy would only make sense if she was defending the intolerance of christians.
 
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