Is therapy bullshit?

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It only works if you have a therapist that wont lie to you and tell you what you want to hear, and if you actually want to put in the effort to change. Therapists aren't fairies that make your problems go away. The individual still has to put in time and effort. But having an outside perspective on whatever the issue is helps more than trying to work through it yourself.
Majority of people don't need therapy anyways, working out would be good enough and if they don't have the discipline to work out they probably aren't going to have the discipline they need for therapy to work anyways.
 
Ask how many therapists have cured their patients.
 
Therapy is a racket, they aren't allowed to actually help you. It goes against their MO. Szasz was right. Fix your problems with living. Go to Church, workout and fix your problems with living.
 
Most cases yes completely bullshit but in severe cases it can help.

Honestly if you are not a legitimately retard incapable of helping yourself, you just need to get a hobby and dedicate to it, so you see some sort of progress in your life. People use the gym as one way but anything that requires effort and push yourself out of your comfort zone will do but do try to get a healthy hobby, getting platinum in whatever the fuck game is not one and generally physical activities are.

Calisthenics bros rise up.

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To elaborate a little bit further, as @Mortan Shekelstorm said above, yes as a therapist you are not allowed to offer a straight up solution to your patient you have to help them find a solution, which is to say gender affirming therapy goes against their code of conduct and it is not just bullshit but in every form Evil. :politisperg::politisperg::politisperg:
 
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I think it depends on a bunch of factors. Reasons for seeking a therapist out, goals, short and long term benefits, and an endpoint.

Never was much for the whole therapist thing. Then a few years ago the unthinkable happened. Suddenly and tragically, my parents died. Had a guy recommended to me who was not only a therapist, but someone who had also lost his parents a decade before, and got through it. Definitely helped me make sense of what happened and accept reality.

I had a very specific issue, and saw someone with experience with that issue. In my case, it helped. And a good workout keeps your mind in a better place than not.
 
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The core problem is that people have been misled to believe that you just need to fix a few things in a band-aid like manner. In reality it usually means that they need to overhaul how they live their life on a day-by-day basis, need to be willing to accept that they may hold some erroneous beliefs, and need to be receptive to learning about certain aspects of human nature. On that last point, I feel like a lot of people would be helped by knowing that depression is largely a disease of the modern world and that hunter-gatherers—people that are living a life in-line with the ecological niche that the human animal evolved to fill—are rarely depressed. Certainly wouldn't cure them of depression, but it would go a long way in convincing some people that circumstance plays a large role in depression.
 
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To elaborate a little bit further, as @Mortan Shekelstorm said above, yes as a therapist you are not allowed to offer a straight up solution to your patient you have to help them find a solution, which is to say gender affirming therapy goes against their code of conduct and it is not just bullshit but in every form Evil. :politisperg::politisperg::politisperg:
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If a patient is not sane or smart enough to recognize what is going on, they can be used abused and chemically altered to better align with the political and social views of the therapist or psychiatrist, often time to detriment of the individuals health and well being. How many times have you seen the intellectually disabled or mental defective, groomed to be a tranny, a shooter or any manner of perversion. The average individuals going to receive mental health care are too weak, damaged or otherwise misaligned to be able to refuse treatments or refute opinions of a "professional" who is more akin to a medieval guild member. Unable to contradict the status quo even in a field so variable dense that it should not be uncommon for differing individuals to receive different methods of therapy apposed to the one sized fits all treatment most associate therapists with. If you were a therapist you would treat a Muslim differently than you would a Atheist or a Christian compared to a tranny having come into your office. An honest therapist will tell you your life sucks and point out the problems you have with living and try to get you to address them and see if there is anything deeper related to them or if your life really just blows.
I'll end this :politisperg: post out with a talk I very much enjoyed connected to the subject, and to my enjoyment and agreeance with Thomas Szasz
 
I do think there's a lot of lazy therapists out there that just milk their patients. I started seeing one for the first time the past few weeks and so far I like it. I've learned skills I believe can help me long term.

My ex was a bit of a crazy bitch and from what she's told me about her therapist, he's just using her as an easy payday that can't help her.
 
Therapy is okay depending on who you’re doing it with. It boils down to someone else giving you the tools to work through your own problems, and giving you a space to talk about whatever has been bothering you. Therapy isn’t effective unless you want to actually put in the work to do better, and a lot of therapists are only in the profession to milk patients for their money without actually challenging their beliefs.
 
Therapy is capitalism's answer to friends.

Make life suck, make you move away from everyone you know for a good job, and destroy community? Guess what? We've got friends for rent that will pretend to give a fuck!
 
It can work in very specific circumstances
1. Phobias, for example, and being worked through exposure and desensitisation
2. Things like DBT when the patient knows there’s an issue and is committed to sorting it out.

If there’s a specific goal, and a specific process, it can work. I think as well sometimes just talking to someone can help.
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I had a very specific issue, and saw someone with experience with that issue
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This seems to be what you experienced.

What I think is bullshit is the kind of open ended whining where you get affirmed once a week, or therapy to ‘fix’ things that aren’t really an issue.
 
I would say it is paramount to keep your mind and body healthy, especially as someone who seems to be toot tired to do either lately! maybe it's the fact i don't got god (healthy) food I dunno. Still not overweight thankfully but I'm not comfortable with the flab lmao.

There are actual hack therapists aplenty out there though for sure, so I understand the sentiment about therapy. I managed to have one or 2 good ones in my life and they were unironically pretty basic therapist stereotypes of "how does that make you feel" in terms of questions, but the difference is they actually listened and didn't try to spin it into some weird out there esoteric and unhelpful meaning. Haven't run into any non hacks since and I can't pay for one's services to begin with with how expensive they are. Working out or working on something in general helps break up stagnation a bit for sure.
 
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It can work in very specific circumstances
1. Phobias, for example, and being worked through exposure and desensitisation
2. Things like DBT when the patient knows there’s an issue and is committed to sorting it out.

If there’s a specific goal, and a specific process, it can work. I think as well sometimes just talking to someone can help.

This seems to be what you experienced.

What I think is bullshit is the kind of open ended whining where you get affirmed once a week, or therapy to ‘fix’ things that aren’t really an issue.
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Agree 100%. A big reason I decided to talk to this particular therapist was his insistence that our sessions would eventually have a definitive endpoint. None of this open-ended forever crap.
 
A cured patient is no longer a paying patient.

As others said, it works if you put the work into it and have a therapist that will push you to healing. Since that requires real work and having to deal with discomfort its not done. Instead you get a person who just listens and agrees with you while stringing along your wallet.

See also using psychedelics to help with mental trauma.
 
Therapy is one big scam and does practically nothing. all they do is uh I feel bad here why X issue is leading to y mindset and z action. and most is barely helpful for women its good for diagnosing but better to Fix those problems yourself. its sucks out of teenagers wills and tries to give them a lie like castrate yourself instead of calling them unwell and doing appropriate actions.
 
And this one of big effects deinstitutionalisation during the mid 20th century leading to higher depression and aloneness rate. Example now how of us prisoners have some kind of mental illness mostly schizophrenia or Psychopathy. Therapies and big (((Companies))) don't want to fix uses they just give addicting drugs to keep them hooked. and tries to over empathize with patient removing there own self accountability and reasonability.
 
If you're going for genuine reasons and to deal with genuine problems, yes it can be good. It's meant to help people process trauma and develop coping mechanisms for various mental disorders and physical disabilities.

That being said, most people in therapy likely do not need it, rather they need to fix issues in their lives instead of using it as a crutch.

It depends I guess.
 
Seeing a therapist is BS, however mindfulness and CBT are legitimate cures to bad thought patterns and you should just study it yourself and get a friend to tell you when you are being delusional.

If you are not your own doctor, you are a fool. ~ Hippocrates
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