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Dr. Merkwurdichliebe said:
By "Windows 6" he almost certainly means IE 6, which was so riddled with security problems that companies like Google (and probably Yahoo) started dropping support in 2009.
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Sweet could've downloaded a copy of Firefox, but considering how he didn't even know what Thunderbird was (aside from thinking it was a cheap liquor), it's very probable that no one told him there have been better browsers that people have been moving over to since at least around 2000 (Netscape 6) - 2002 (Mozilla 1.0). I'm guessing Sweet still runs on IE to this day, just like he prefers MSPaint over GIMP.

I wonder just how bad the malware problem on the system Sweet uses is.
 
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Dr. Merkwurdichliebe said:
And here's another of Mr. Sweet's run-ins with the administrators of Wikipedia, this time on http://wpedia.goo.ne.jp/.

If you'll scroll down, you'll find him being taken to task for his typical use of the site to promote his crappy work and to host his images and copyrighted work lifted from other locations, to which he hotlinks from other sites.

I'll continue to bang the drum about Mr. Bad Boy of College Journalism's inability to get even the simplest of facts correct. Note this section from the site linked: "'Fartknocker' is a term of derision which originated with Beavis and Butt-Head. [sic] Its meaning is uncertain, but it has been variously defined as a homosexual, an excessively flatulent person, and the sound a fart makes when it strikes a wooden chair seat, similar to someone knocking on a door."

It's meaning is not "uncertain." It means "a contemptible person" or "a fall so impressive that it knocks a fart from the person involved." None of the meanings he cites are correct. (He lifted them from his fellow morons on Urban Dictionary.) And the word did not originate with Beavis and Butt-head. A quick Google search finds the word in print as far back as 1952, 10 years before the show's creator was born.

The section where he whines about "Windows 6" not being compatible with his Yahho mail in 2011 is pure Sweetness. Windows Six was Vista, and was fully supported in 2011 and has extended support until April 2017. (In other words, it still works "just fine.") By "Windows 6" he almost certainly means IE 6, which was so riddled with security problems that companies like Google (and probably Yahoo) started dropping support in 2009. The fact that this world-famous science fiction writer who spends his every waking minute on the Internet doesn't know the difference between an operating system and a browser is . . . well, I guess it's not really surprising at all.
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I was wondering what he was dooing on a Japanese site until I realized it's some web crawl archive or something. Also I see @WWWWolf has bumped into him several years prior.
 
John Titor said:
I was wondering what he was dooing on a Japanese site until I realized it's some web crawl archive or something.
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Wikipedia content is mirrored on many websites - there's even database dumps available if anyone wants to start one. The mirrors just usually don't contain project-related pages like the user talk. Also surprised it contained any previous comments at all, because Sweet deleted all posts without archiving them anywhere for public viewing.

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Also I see @WWWWolf has bumped into him several years prior.
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Yup, that was the incident I mentioned a few pages back. My memory about who I've talked to in Wikipedia is usually all kinds of hazy, but seems I remembered most of it.

This is what he replied to my request:
>>OK, thank you for faster response this time, and for mopping up this page. How about your user page, and the external promotion I mentioned? That is still a whole lot of non-project content. Please seek some alternate wiki host for material like this - surely one or two pages worth of material isn't too difficult to migrate?

Done. I was looking for an excuse to redo the page anyway, so this worked out well. The_Iconoclast (talk) 16:42, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
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...the thing is, I seem to have sent him two messages about this (the one mentioned in previous posts and the one quoted here), but I could find the response to the first one, so I haven't got the foggiest idea what the heck the "response" I'm talking about here actually was. This seems to be the only time he contacted me directly. This was handled relatively amicably, just that I don't think he handled the thing with all due haste. He cut down a lot of stuff, but much still lingered on his user page afterwards. Didn't think there was any need to push the issue further.
 
WWWWolf said:
Wikipedia content is mirrored on many websites - there's even database dumps available if anyone wants to start one. The mirrors just usually don't contain project-related pages like the user talk. Also surprised it contained any previous comments at all, because Sweet deleted all posts without archiving them anywhere for public viewing.


Yup, that was the incident I mentioned a few pages back. My memory about who I've talked to in Wikipedia is usually all kinds of hazy, but seems I remembered most of it.

This is what he replied to my request:

...the thing is, I seem to have sent him two messages about this (the one mentioned in previous posts and the one quoted here), but I could find the response to the first one, so I haven't got the foggiest idea what the heck the "response" I'm talking about here actually was. This seems to be the only time he contacted me directly. This was handled relatively amicably, just that I don't think he handled the thing with all due haste. He cut down a lot of stuff, but much still lingered on his user page afterwards. Didn't think there was any need to push the issue further.
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He likes to delete comments from talk pages. He even got temporarily blocked over it.
Okay, I squinted more closely at my monitor (misplaced my glasses again) and apparently it was a different account - "Iconoclast" as opposed to "The Iconoclast." Can any wikipedophiles tell if these are both Johnny or not? (I'm thinking not, since Sweets would never accuse someone of being part of the "white racist power structure.")
Iconoclast (talk · contribs · logs · block user · block log)
I recently started an afd for American Nihilist Underground Society (see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/American Nihilist Underground Society (3rd nomination)) and this user has since started posting comments such as "anyone who votes delete is a homosexual pedophile" and "I think Azer Red needs more friends". If he wants to participate in the afd, fine, but I think that these comments he's been making would be considered trolling.--Azer Red Si? 15:48, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

Also, I looked at his userpage and the first section of it appears to be a soapbox declaring that his nom for adminship was deleted by the "white racist power structure" within Wikipedia, and calling the closing admin, Radiant!, a "neo-nazi Scandinavian". I don't think that users are allowed to use their userspace to attack Wikipedia and other users.--Azer Red Si? 16:03, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
If the user keeps this up, his days here are numbered. I removed the personal attacks from the user page. Please do not remove AfD comments, rather, use strikeout. El_C 16:33, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

It looks like he's trying to supernova. I don't know why people do that. If they want to quit, they can just quit. They don't actually have to try to get blocked and then banned. (Maybe it's like the old days when admins used to block themselves to break the addiction.) Crowbait 17:54, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
Maybe it is because wikipedia is absolute garbage? There is a reason all the professors I know openly mock it. I could help out and make it better, but really, I don't want to waste time in pointless edit wars because some dominatrix felt that "troll metal" exists or that Guru Kabir really lived to be 120 years old. LOL. This website is absolute garbage and it will never amount to anything. Plus it is openly laughable at how the GNAA had to have 18 vfds just so they could "democratically" delete it. LOL. I've seen admins delete people because they have different ideologies and all that garbage. I'm done with this filthy, pathetic website --Iconoclast 23:43, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
Yes, after that rant, you almost certainly are. SirFozzie 23:50, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Blocked for personal attacks and incivility after warning. Indefinate as the user has expressed that they are not interested in contributing constructivly to the encyclopedia. - brenneman 23:52, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
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As an aside, I also found https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:The_real_iconoclast , whose only contribution besides editing his userpage was to Talk:List of the lengths of American participation in major wars, which I just find hilarious given his pompous userpage.
 
NobleGreyHorse said:
I made a Pastebin account just so others could have the lulz of reading this interview with Sweets (I already had a Docstoc account -- otherwise, the full document is behind a paywall). Needless to say, "Jenny Horne" isn't my name or anything close. Here you go: [MEDIA=pastebin]WWPhDSiQ[/MEDIA]
Edit: I should say that you're unlikely to learn anything Sweets hasn't already told us, but that his response to being called a "misogynist" is actually pretty funny, and there's some new description of life and fights with his brother. (Strangely, his brother got angry upon seeing a roach in his dinner.) Allegedly he keeps his crooked glasses unrepaired to remind him of the grievous harm said brother has inflicted on his life, although honestly, I don't think he could ever forget the slightest grudge anyway. His intricate description of naming his characters also shouldn't be missed.
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Those of you who have not taken the time to wade through this astonishing document should do so.

Despite @NobleGreyHorse's modest disclaimer, it does actually have a few factoids that Mr. Sweet has never revealed elsewhere. For example, remember the "metal bar" that he hid under his bed, planning to use it to crush in his brother's skull? Well, in this interview he says: "I started keeping an axe under my bed to hack him into cutlets if I ever caught him doing it again." That seems like an awkward weapon for close-quarters combat; I think I'd have chosen a hatchet.

Then there's this little gem in which Mr. Sweet talks about the one tiny drawback to his genius and his art: "Most don't know about the snakepits that lurk in the minds of geniuses and their art." (Note to Mr. McCrablice: You claim elsewhere that you have an IQ of 137; that falls short of 140 required to be classified as a "genius" -- an antiquated classification that no longer exists, by the way.)

And then, there's the drum I love to beat. The interviewer asked him to name a bunch of his favorite things. When she got to verb, The Genius Artiste replied: "Spelunking. It sounds dirty." Sadly for the World's Greatest Conservative Writer, spelunking is a noun, a back formation of spelunker. It is not the present participle of the nonexistent verb "to spelunk."
 
Dr. Belch, escaped mental patient and movie critic, reviews Gladiator.

"The first thing that struck me was the emporer's [sic] name: Commodus--i.e. "commode", or toilet. A monstrous pun that echoes Twain's Pudd'nhead Wilson...the slave mother naming her baby "Valet de Chambre", or "chamber pot", ignorant of the meaning."

Yes, he actually thinks there was a Roman emperor named toilet.

And his knowledge of French is certainly equal to his knowledge of Latin. Valet de chambre, not too surprisingly, means "valet of the chamber," or simply "valet." (It was also an appointed position at the French court.) The French for "chamber pot" is -- wait for it, wait for it -- pot de chambre.

So, in two consecutive sentences displaying his blazing ignorance of history, language and literature, Mr. Sweet projects his obsession with feces onto a famous film director and Mark Twain and also projects his racism onto Twain as well. It's kinda funny that the "ignorant black woman" in Pudd'nhead Wilson is actually smarter than Dr. Belch.

Soon I will find the following review by Mr. Sweet.

"This newly released collection of Marlene Dietrich's greatest hits is generally enjoyable, but you have to wonder what was wrong with that woman that compelled her to sing the following feculent lyrics: Doo-doo liegst mir im Herzen/ Doo-doo liegst mir im Sinn/ Doo-doo machst mir viel Schmerzen/ Weißt nicht, wie gut ich dir bin/ Doo-doo, doo-doo/ Weißt nicht, wie gut ich dir bin. Come on, Marlene, keep it in the bathroom."

And God help us all when he encounters his first pu pu platter. He'll probably want to share a few of his favorite recipes.
 
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Hey @Dr. Merkwurdichliebe, check out the Len Shaner thread if you haven't yet. The guy is like Iconoclasts idiot cousin, as unlikely as that sounds.
 
ASU said:
Hey @Dr. Merkwurdichliebe, check out the Len Shaner thread if you haven't yet. The guy is like Iconoclasts idiot cousin, as unlikely as that sounds.
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Thanks, he looks entertaining. Does he show up in the thread to defend himself?

A lot of train freaks are super-creepy. Especially the ones who have elaborate setups in their back yards that they use to "entertain" children. More than a few of those guys are in prison.
 
Having proven instrumental in the death of an online community that should have been celebrating it's tenth anniversary, Sweet Bro has been more active in the other corners of the online from which he has yet to be banned.

On 12th June he started what seemed like it would be a weekly series on Deviantart, which he introduced as follows:
I thought I'd get back to blogging regularly with a little thing I'm calling "Cutting-Room Floor Friday". Basically I just show you deleted panels, cut scenes, unused ideas or random jokes and doodles I happen to have lying around.
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Those clicking the link will find plenty of Sweet's deeply neurodivergent flavour of world-building, and a characteristically ill-scanned set of panels featuring Ripoff ALF vomiting profusely.

Needless to say, Jonathan "Workrate" Sweets failed to follow the June 12th edition with one on June 19th.
 
Its odd he's not more upset over the death of AJM. I mean this is man who keeps grudges for 20+ years, Shouldn't he be ranting about how the liberal communists at Kiwifarms destroyed his hugbox?
 
Ruin said:
Its odd he's not more upset over the death of AJM. I mean this is man who keeps grudges for 20+ years, Shouldn't he be ranting about how the liberal communists at Kiwifarms destroyed his hugbox?
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I've wondered this, too. I've come up with three hypotheses:
1) He hasn't noticed yet. Evidence for: it took him eight hours to find his way out of a hospital waiting room. Evidence against: he reads this thread compulsively and typically responds (elsewhere on the internet, like a true coward) in a much shorter timeframe.
2) He's too scared of us to respond. Evidence for: he got so epically owned during his time here that even he realised it and he beat a hasty retreat. He has a history of not engaging with things that hit too close to home, like when we dug up his tugboat. Evidence against: he's been scared of us for months, and in this time he's kept up a steady stream of jabs at us from elsewhere on the internet.
3) A miracle has happened and Sweet is now self-aware and no longer autistic. Evidence for: if you wish hard enough, and your heart is pure, wonderful things can happen. Evidence against: nobody here is pure-hearted.
 
Absinthe said:
1) He hasn't noticed yet. Evidence for: it took him eight hours to find his way out of a hospital waiting room. Evidence against: he reads this thread compulsively and typically responds (elsewhere on the internet, like a true coward) in a much shorter timeframe.
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Also, even during his silent periods on AJM, he lurked the site obsessively. He was on it pretty much every day. My guess for another possibility is that he's hoping the site is going to come back in some form or another if he keeps his head down. As you said, Sweet knows when he's had his shit kicked in. When he gets annihilated too badly, he flees until the situation blows over or until something makes him feel brave enough to confront it again.
 
Absinthe said:
Having proven instrumental in the death of an online community that should have been celebrating it's tenth anniversary, Sweet Bro has been more active in the other corners of the online from which he has yet to be banned.

On 12th June he started what seemed like it would be a weekly series on Deviantart, which he introduced as follows:


Those clicking the link will find plenty of Sweet's deeply neurodivergent flavour of world-building, and a characteristically ill-scanned set of panels featuring Ripoff ALF vomiting profusely.

Needless to say, Jonathan "Workrate" Sweets failed to follow the June 12th edition with one on June 19th.
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Oh boy, we're finally going to get to see the scenes that were so bad they didn't even make it into The Belch Dimension!
How is that possible anyway? Like CWC he seems to include everything no matter how much it seems to fit the plot. It's hard to think of either of them rejecting anything.

And yeah Len Shaner is pretty much Jonathan Sweet's long lost cousin. Sweet, do you have any relatives in Pottsberg, PA or whatever it's called?
 
Absinthe said:
I've wondered this, too. I've come up with three hypotheses:
1) He hasn't noticed yet. Evidence for: it took him eight hours to find his way out of a hospital waiting room. Evidence against: he reads this thread compulsively and typically responds (elsewhere on the internet, like a true coward) in a much shorter timeframe.
2) He's too scared of us to respond. Evidence for: he got so epically owned during his time here that even he realised it and he beat a hasty retreat. He has a history of not engaging with things that hit too close to home, like when we dug up his tugboat. Evidence against: he's been scared of us for months, and in this time he's kept up a steady stream of jabs at us from elsewhere on the internet.
3) A miracle has happened and Sweet is now self-aware and no longer autistic. Evidence for: if you wish hard enough, and your heart is pure, wonderful things can happen. Evidence against: nobody here is pure-hearted.
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You forgot 4) He's scared of someone else. As in, someone from AJM bitched him out in private, and he's busy fighting that inconsequential battle instead of this one. Evidence for: he doesn't seem like he can focus on two things at once. Evidence against: when does he ever miss an opportunity to publicly confess to something stupid?
 
Handsome Pete said:
You forgot 4) He's scared of someone else. As in, someone from AJM bitched him out in private, and he's busy fighting that inconsequential battle instead of this one. Evidence for: he doesn't seem like he can focus on two things at once. Evidence against: when does he ever miss an opportunity to publicly confess to something stupid?
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Since AJM shut down and it was mostly his fault, he could be scared that former AJM members are going to release all the dirt they have on him in retaliation for ruining their forum. So he's laying low.
 
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