🎨 Artcow Iconoclast / Jonathan Mack Sweet - The Chris-Chan of Arkansas

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Now I'm disappointed in how that's not the case.

Watching Sweetbro debate with others is boring, at least for me. Sweet does the same thing in every post, yammer on about his past, not acknowledge any of his faults, and whine about how liberals ruined the world. I can say that not paying attention to any of his posts in the debate board at AJM STUDIOS is the reason why I remained so clueless about his serious issues for so many years.

Sweetbro will make an interesting post when he finally admits that he himself is the reason for why his life sucks, which will never happen, at least not on a public forum. :)
 
Watching Sweetbro debate with others is boring, at least for me. Sweet does the same thing in every post, yammer on about his past, not acknowledge any of his faults, and whine about how liberals ruined the world. I can say that not paying attention to any of his posts in the debate board at AJM STUDIOS is the reason why I remained so clueless about his serious issues for so many years.

Sweetbro will make an interesting post when he finally admits that he himself is the reason for why his life sucks, which will never happen, at least not on a public forum. :)
Agreed, he's a one-trick pony. And it's not even a funny trick.
 
I also think it's really...interesting? tragic? that Sweet, unlike many other people, never has those moments where he looks back on past interactions that at the time seemed completely good-natured and innocuous and realizes "Hey, I think that person was actually making fun of me." It's weird how he takes things like the pennies in the door completely at face value and assumes them to be gestures of adoration, but other things (the trashcan incident, his mom's boyfriend skipping town, TV ratings in general, Ashleigh) are all tied into this vast conspiracy to ruin his life and prevent him from finding happiness, rather than being isolated events that in some cases might not have had anything to do with him at all.
 
I also think it's really...interesting? tragic? that Sweet, unlike many other people, never has those moments where he looks back on past interactions that at the time seemed completely good-natured and innocuous and realizes "Hey, I think that person was actually making fun of me." It's weird how he takes things like the pennies in the door completely at face value and assumes them to be gestures of adoration, but other things (the trashcan incident, his mom's boyfriend skipping town, TV ratings in general, Ashleigh) are all tied into this vast conspiracy to ruin his life and prevent him from finding happiness, rather than being isolated events that in some cases might not have had anything to do with him at all.
I suffered a similar deficit of social intelligence when I was a college freshman. I too played the fool in an attempt to get people to like me, and was unaware that people were laughing AT me, not WITH me. Unlike Sweet, I developed social awareness and stopped acting like an idiot and lo and behold, people wanted to be around me. Unless something truly unusual happens in Sweet's life, I do not believe he will ever undergo a similar epiphany.
 
Not sure what's going on with that.

Here's a link. Read the first one-star review (titled "A Miscarriage of Literature"), and then click on the comments, in which Mr. Sweet mocks and threatens his critics. (There are only two reviews; both award Mr. Sweet one star.)

Here's another review from that same critic. These were posted in June 2011, and his ED page history starts just before that so it was someone trolling I assume, and not someone who was involved. Also I noticed this on the ED page, one of his quotes says "I think I actually have my own real-life evil twin, Christian W. Chandler". It suggests that he sees himself as a right-wing version of Chris. Did Sweets become discovered as a lolcow because he was A-Logging on Chris Chan like ADF was?
 
I also think it's really...interesting? tragic? that Sweet, unlike many other people, never has those moments where he looks back on past interactions that at the time seemed completely good-natured and innocuous and realizes "Hey, I think that person was actually making fun of me."

The thought just recently hit me, but I'm pretty sure the kindness we AJM'ers showed Sweet only worsen his social stupidity and ego unfortunately. The chances of Sweet stumbling across a forum of sane people (yes, the AJM'ers are sane despite the fact they keep Sweet around) that would accept him were low. Extremely low. Somehow though, Sweetbro managed to defy all odds and came across AJM STUDIOS. For the last 10 years, Sweet has had a hugbox to make him and his beliefs feel validated.

AJM STUDIOS is an anomaly. Most forums would of eventually realized what a complete weirdo Sweet is and then reject him, either socially or by banhammer. Of course, that was not the case at AJM STUDIOS. Without AJM STUDIOS, Sweetbro would of most likely experienced rejection and hatred from every online community he joined for the last 10 years. All that negativity would of had to made Sweet eventually question his own behavior. That wasn't the case though. Thanks to AJM STUDIOS, whenever Sweet's behavior got him on the receiving end of negativity, he had AJM STUDIOS to run back too to feel like his behavior and beliefs were validated.

I know I'm giving Sweetbro too much credit here, but I would like to believe he has the capability to realize that his behavior is wrong if he receives enough criticism. AJM STUDIOS protected him from the criticism he rightfully deserved for the last 10 years though.
 
Yeah, they're enabling him. I can see how they wouldn't think it would matter though. It probably wasn't as obvious to them that there was any harm in humoring him and they neither wanted to look closely nor see what was there once they were forced to. So far I think the only harm has been to his own mental well being, anyway. He's getting older. I don't know that he'll ever "grow out" of his threatening behavior but I'd guess as time goes by he'd become less capable of causing harm if anything. He doesn't seem like a fitness nut.
 
Sweetbro joined AJM STUDIOS back in 2006 when most of the regular members were freshmen in high school. Being young and naive definitely played a part in why we humored him. Don't get me wrong, Sweet's oddness was clearly visible to us the moment he started posting around the forum, but we were all about showing kindness. I actually didn't like Sweet when I first encountered him on the forum, but I saw the other members being friendly to him so I went along. If we were far older at the time, I believe we would of been less willing to entertain Sweet's ways.

A big part of the reason why the AJM'ers refuse to acknowledge Sweet for what he is because of how long he has been a member at the site. Hell, I feel guilty at times for talking down about Sweet here, but then I remember who he is.
 
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Here's another review from that same critic. These were posted in June 2011, and his ED page history starts just before that so it was someone trolling I assume, and not someone who was involved. Also I noticed this on the ED page, one of his quotes says "I think I actually have my own real-life evil twin, Christian W. Chandler". It suggests that he sees himself as a right-wing version of Chris. Did Sweets become discovered as a lolcow because he was A-Logging on Chris Chan like ADF was?
Yeah, he was discovered on the CWCki.
 
I'm guessing that this is based on a situation that happened in reality. Sweet wanted the TV lounge to himself, but others (probably people of a certain race) were there first. Like I said before, Sweet probably made the TV lounge like his personal living room a lot.

I also get the distinct impression that the writing Sweet made has elements like the "sub episodes" of Sonichu.
Sounds about right. I noticed in college certain people liked hanging out in the common areas waiting for people to talk to them. Most seemed nice/normal but there were certainly some exceptional individuals who did this as well.


As for being "discovered" awhile ago someone pointed out that this isn't the first community to have discovered Sweet and many seem to be independent of each other. I don't really know the details of it except he was discussed on somethingawful, and tvtropes (possible related).
 
Yes, he's been discussed under his "Haggis McCrablice" screenname from TVTropes in a number of places, including SomethingAwful and TheFPlus.
 
Didn't see this posted before, it's some of Sweet's writing from a website called Bewildering Stories.

The Kestron Lenses
Part 1 - https://archive.is/7mLOn
Part 2 - https://archive.is/EnF91
Part 3 - https://archive.is/r0dPk
Part 4 - https://archive.is/4EfU0
Part 5 - https://archive.is/2k7WS
Part 6 - https://archive.is/uNIjX

Scarred Deep - https://archive.is/MFrjn

Bio and welcome page - https://archive.is/b4ZvO https://archive.is/Qjz4S

On his website, Sweet describes The Klestron Lenses as a "Serial Novellette", and summarises the plot as follows:

"Newspaperman Xavier Harold Stafford desperately needs glasses for his work. He can afford only a cheap pair, but they work...magically well. Sometimes you get what you pay for; only we have an inkling how dearly Harry is going to pay for what he gets...."

Yes, surprisingly, Jonathan M. Sweet has written a story about a young college student working on the college paper in a Southern college.

This young newspaperman, short sighted and bearded, ends up committing a string of murders. It is surely entirely a coincidence - and in no way any authorial wish-fulfillment - that among the victims are "a small, surly, dark-haired girl of 20 who was compulsively alcoholic and promiscuous" and a lecturer who was "one of the old-guard Gloria Steinem/Betty Friedan-era feminists who saw all men as potential rapists".

Klestron is pretty long (16,000 words) and full of Sweet's turgid eye-dialect, but there are some gems in it.

OK, Absinthe. If you're brave enough to read this crap and strong enough to overcome the urge to rip your eyes from your head after doing so, I'll give it a go.

A few minutes pass.

All right, I made it through the first page. Normally, I would have stopped reading after the second paragraph. It's that bad. What have we learned from Page One of this work?

Well, we learn that 3,000 years ago people in what is now Mongolia spoke Mandarin Chinese, a language that did not exist at that time. We learn that in Mandarin the phrase Dwezi Chwen Di Yu means "The Lips of Hell." (Need a foreign word or phrase in your story? Just make up some jibber-jabber. No one will notice.) We learn that 3,000 years ago in Mongolia, even the children were aware of the symbol we know as the Christian cross. We learn that Mr. Sweet has no command of the proper use of sequence of tenses and is apparently utterly ignorant of the past perfect, a fault that is grossly irritating to someone who is reading a story set in the freakin' past. We learn that the correct way to describe a young boy visiting a place reputed to be haunted by demons is to write that he "sauntered amongst ashes." Both sauntered and amongst leap off the page as the work of someone who doesn't know -- or care -- what saunter means and who doesn't know -- or care -- that amongst is, at best, a pretentious archaism that reeks of affectation in American English.

Basically, we learn what we already knew: Mr. Sweet's scribblings are the work of a lazy, unoriginal, barely literate hack. If he wants readers, he going to have to pay them.

Klestron is pretty long (16,000 words) and full of Sweet's turgid eye-dialect, but there are some gems in it.

Not at all a racist said:
The following night, Harry decided to study in the television lounge. Faulkner Hall, his dorm, had one of the nicer TV rooms on campus, with a 52-inch screen and several small couches. When he arrived there about one in the morning, he noticed a half-dozen boisterous Negroes playing poker in the corner near the windows. Harry settled in a couch several feet from the card players, opened a copy of Keats, and tried to ignore the noise at his back.

And shortly after introducing these characters, who speak in Mr. Not At All A Racist's patented Whitewash Jones dialect, he starts calling one of them "Buckwheat." I guess it's not as bad as his comic Broke Black Mountain, which lists on its cover a cast of characters that includes "Many Coons." When you consider that Klestron was spewed forth several years before Broke Black, it would appear that Our Hero is becoming even more of a racist.

Have I mentioned how awful Mr. Sweet's writing is? It's just excruciating to read over all the errors of fact, punctuation, grammar, usage and diction in his work. The grotesque dialog featuring outlandish displays of phonetic spelling of demotic speech is all but unreadable. No one ever has or ever will talk like Mr. Sweet's characters. The Bad Boy of College Journalism, my ass. I'm surprised that the Modern Language Association hasn't had him assassinated.
 
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Have I mentioned how awful Mr. Sweet's writing is?
As you've seen from what Sweet said in response to the negative reviews, from the perspective of Sweet, the writing is great, and only people with "small minds" don't like or understand it. It's like how Sweet thinks only progressives don't like Belch Dimension, but TRUE and HONEST conservatives do. Or how anyone he doesn't like has a small mind.

Also, there's one part in that story with the TV lounge where a guy gets a chunk of his face sliced off by a knife, and Sweet compares it to "corned beef." I'm not an expert at literary criticism, but I've noticed that Sweet seems to overuse odd specific analogies to describe stuff, like how a cat always likes to scratch at the same part of a scratching post.
 
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I suffered a similar deficit of social intelligence when I was a college freshman. I too played the fool in an attempt to get people to like me, and was unaware that people were laughing AT me, not WITH me. Unlike Sweet, I developed social awareness and stopped acting like an idiot and lo and behold, people wanted to be around me. Unless something truly unusual happens in Sweet's life, I do not believe he will ever undergo a similar epiphany.
I'm curious, Dr. Jones Hat, what do you think allowed you to have an epiphany while Sweet hasn't had one? The dude's, what, 39-years-old now? About two decades older than you were when you stopped acting the fool, and yet he is still a disruptive man-child.

Yeah, he was discovered on the CWCki.
It seems quite a few lolcows were discovered by their A-Logging of Chris-Chan, including A-Log himself.
 
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Sweetbro joined AJM STUDIOS back in 2006 when most of the regular members were freshmen in high school. Being young and naive definitely played a part in why we humored him. Don't get me wrong, Sweet's oddness was clearly visible to us the moment he started posting around the forum, but we were all about showing kindness. I actually didn't like Sweet when I first encountered him on the forum, but I saw the other members being friendly to him so I went along. If we were far older at the time, I believe we would of been less willing to entertain Sweet's ways.

A big part of the reason why the AJM'ers refuse to acknowledge Sweet for what he is because of how long he has been a member at the site. Hell, I feel guilty at times for talking down about Sweet here, but then I remember who he is.

Bingo. 2006, like you said, most of the AJM'ers (myself included) where in high school. We were very accepting of how weird and kooky he was, but as I got older, I realized what some of his comments actually meant. He left comments on videos I made saying things like "*runs to take a cold shower*" or "*excessive nosebleed*" (which apparently is an anime reference to becoming extremely aroused). Even some of that I let slide, because it's the internet, people will always say things they would never say to your face.

But then Michael Brown was killed, and he started saying such heinous, racist, misogynistic things, things I can now see he has been saying all over the internet, but kept relatively mild on AJM until he was called out on it (by me). As you all know, I asked him repeatedly to agree to disagree and to stop talking to me, and he for some reason responded by linking over to this site. And then I came and started reading this forum, which did nothing to help his case. Apparently, that means that I started a "war" between the two sites.... seriously, the recent comments:

AppleJack: In times of war we lose aspects of free speech.

Me: I literally laughed out loud when I read this. "Times of war?!"

Ron: This is why I like [AppleJack]. It is true though if we don't look at our site. In the REAL WORLD, when times of war or heightened security are at play, people's rights and freedoms are often curtailed, slimmed, narrowed, reduced. More words.

Me: I just think it's ridiculous that this is being considered "a time of war" for this site. Oh no! Some people we don't agree with are telling the truth about things! Block them! Block them! Lol.
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All of which is completely ridiculous, because, as I've always said, it's the internet! Anything you put out there can be seen by anyone, at anytime, and everyone just has to deal with that. If you don't like it, get off the internet. Lookin' at you, Sweet.
 
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