🎨 Artcow Iconoclast / Jonathan Mack Sweet - The Chris-Chan of Arkansas

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The reason I never responded you your dopey "best Pony" question is because you implied I spanked off to Ponies, and I refused to dignigy that stupidity with a response. I have no favorite. I like the voices--Tara Strong, Tabitha St. Germain and young up-and-comer Ashleigh Ball.

atomik fyre said:
You know how much you sound like Chris...?
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Do not ever compare me to Chris. I have a far better work ethic that he has ever shown. I'm going into season ten of my series, and he can barely cough out ten issues before he whined about the trolls and silly Internet cartoons killing his inspiration and shuts the hell down. If anything the critics inspire me more. Also, never tell me I can't have something, or I'm not good enough to have something what I want. I will get it anyway it just to spite you.

Randall Fragg said:
That [story] fails as a satire of gay marriage because I'm pretty sure dating between social classes is not all that controversial unless you're an 1880s aristocrat.
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First, it's obvious you've never dated a rich girl in the South. They are absolutely terrified of scandal. There's a lot of sneaking around, secrecy, and fake names involved. Secondly, if you read the story (which you could if I could get it transferred from my old computer), that is the joke. The two aren't really comparable. It's a whole to-do about nothing that escalates wildly...you know, like any protest grounded in a fallacy argument (hence., Occupy Wall Street/Mall Street). I explained the joke because in two or three years people will be all, "Occu-who?" I find myself explaining to kids all the time who O.J. Simpson and Rodney King were. It's hard doing topical humor because I know it'll be out-of-date soon (though if Hillary runs in 2016 I can dust off all my old Clinton jokes and still be topical).

WWWWolf said:
If your composition is totally out of whack and it only serves to make the comic harder to read, people are looking for other... causes on why you're doing it. Like laziness and incompetence.
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Or, here's another thought: failing eyesight. I need new glasses desperately, and my depth perception is slightly out of whack. This might explain to some degree my eccentric panel structure (and why I crash into doorjambs so much). That page Fyre posts uses negative space to create an effect ...fine, sure, it's good, but not my style. I like bright colors and wild cartoonish poses. Somebody compared my art to Snuffy Smith? Okay, I downloaded a few of those cartoons--not bad. They do quite a lot with limited animation, actually. Sometimes my text runs on a bit long--big deal. I never had any formal training in ass-THE-tics and compuh-SI-shun. Blah-blah-blah-yibbeddy-yibbeddy-blah. I usu. emulate what I see in the commercial comics, so if you want to pin it on someone, blame them.

But you don't use sharper contrasts to get them to stand out. Why?
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First of all, you're looking at two pages out of 2,400+, so it's hardly a representative sample. Secondly, it's the decor of the mall that worked against me--dark floor tile, candy pink walls and neon green trim. Talk about bizarre aesthetics. It's like an overbright shrine to consumer capitalism. Lightening the body lines made them look like they were dipped in powdered sugar, so I tried lightening the floor about them, as much as I dared. Too light and it wouldn't have looked right next to the photoreal background of the mall interior I used.

Konstantinos said:
Change is needed to live a fulfilling lifestyle...
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Positive change. Not poison change. And the people in power now are rigid ideologues who can't seem to tell the difference.

Pinhead said:
[A]sk yourself...am I making this comic for myself, or for an audience?
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It's for an audience who loves America as much as I do and doesn't want to see it turned into something ugly and alien by a progressive socialist ideology. It's about getting the wrong people out of power, dialing back decades of poison change, and restoring this country to its foundations. It's about teaching people the rules so they don't have to make the same mistakes I made and have to watch their liberties, freedoms, and joy die in their hand. That is who I make this comic for. And you can thank my experiences in college for helping me to realize that.
 
Which pony voice do you spank it to, then? You're just like a child; always with the semantics. :roll:
 
America turned into something ugly and alien? Uh, you are aware of how the modern "America" was formed, right?

Yeah, evil exists in the powerful elite, but they're not stopping you from getting laid, and neither they, nor those ooky-spooky liberals, are responsible for the fact your comic is awful.

How does it feel, typing those textwalls, knowing that nobody takes you seriously? We're up to 18 pages. Are we gonna go for 50, here? Are you just gonna keep posting text-walls in the vain hope that one little sperg will latch onto you and call you Superman?

You have no college experience. You were kicked out, because you're an unreasonable idiot.

THAT is why people compare you to Chris. Because you're stubborn, you're mind-bendingly stupid, and you can't deal with the fact people aren't taking you at your word.

Grow up, get off the internet, and stop being a fucking retard, seriously. Just because you have rose-tinted glasses when it comes to your youth, doesn't mean things were all that great.

There are people who have fond memories of family time in bomb-shelters. It doesn't mean that it was a desirable situation. You're exactly like Chris, pining for shit that doesn't matter, people who don't exist, and memories that weren't all that great if you look at them from more than a surface level.
 
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I don't spank it to Ponies.

DrChristianTroy said:
So TV ratings= you losing some gig on a college paper. It has nothing to do with you not being able to play office politics.
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Well, that could have been a factor as well. I'll admit to not being the perfect staffer. But the fans loved me. I've mentioned how they lavished me with gifts, I believe. I believe some of my fellow coworkers were jealous of all the attention I got, and this caused a lot of the trouble.

I never said my life in college was perfect, but at least I was free. I ate well, I enjoyed the company, and nobody was sneaking into my room, eating up my food and drinking my soda, or screaming at and hitting me because I wouldn't give his crazy ass five bucks for cigarettes.
 
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The_Iconoclast said:
Positive change. Not poison change. And the people in power now are rigid ideologues who can't seem to tell the difference.
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Oh come on dude, you can't justify your mopey lifestyle by getting fixated on the idea that change is bad sometimes. Likewise, you can't just blame some aloof, never-seen higher power for all your problems. You need to be the change you want to see in your life, goddamn it. Admit that you have problems, realize that reform needs to happen and make it so.

Let me put it like this: you admit that your lifestyle is terrible but you're also adamantly against changing your it. What that tells everyone is that you enjoy wallowing in your own misery and self-pity. Change is scary a lot of the time, granted, but you need to brave that shit if you truly want to lead a better life and not be some whiny loser complaining about being a loser on an internet forum. Change = Leading a happier life.

This is about as :anna: as I've ever been before but come on dude, I'm trying to help you out here.
 
And yet when I actually outline a plan to "be the change", all I hear is, "Nuh nuh nuh! You is not has nuh hairpiece' cuz we is not let you has the money! You is not has nice place near campus! You is on'y has apartment in'na ghetto because we is say that is all you is good enough to has!" "Progressive" ideology only lets you progress as far as they say you may....
 
The_Iconoclast said:
And yet when I actually outline a plan to "be the change", all I hear is, "Nuh nuh nuh! You is not has nuh hairpiece' cuz we is not let you has the money! You is not has nice place near campus! You is on'y has apartment in'na ghetto because we is say that is all you is good enough to has!" "Progressive" ideology only lets you progress as far as they say you may....
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Isn't being a furry pedo brony your ideology though?
 
The_Iconoclast said:
And yet when I actually outline a plan to "be the change", all I hear is, "Nuh nuh nuh! You is not has nuh hairpiece' cuz we is not let you has the money! You is not has nice place near campus! You is on'y has apartment in'na ghetto because we is say that is all you is good enough to has!" "Progressive" ideology only lets you progress as far as they say you may....
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You keep implying that the people criticising you use awful spelling and grammar, when so far, the only person I've ever seen talk like that is you.

Be the change in your own life and stop trying to justify your lack of motivation by arguing with internet people who don't have any real influence on your life anyway.

Or you know, just shut the fuck up.
 
The_Iconoclast said:
Nuh nuh nuh! You is not has nuh hairpiece' cuz we is not let you has the money! You is not has nice place near campus! You is on'y has apartment in'na ghetto because we is say that is all you is good enough to has!"
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Wait... why do you constantly paraphrase people like this? I assume you're supposed to be doing an impression of me when I said:

atomik fyre said:
Forget the hairpiece or even hair treatments, you don't have the cash to get anything convincing. Also, with your credit you'd be lucky enough to find a place to rent in the ghetto, let alone near campus.
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I'm not being mean, nor am I talking or typing in an affected voice. If anything, when I speak I sound a lot like you, but w/ less of a southern twang as I was raised about 5 hours north of you. I also wasn't saying any of that to be mean, I was being real about your situation. Sorry, it sucks, but the only one that can fix any of it is you.
 
The_Iconoclast said:
And yet when I actually outline a plan to "be the change", all I hear is, "Nuh nuh nuh! You is not has nuh hairpiece' cuz we is not let you has the money! You is not has nice place near campus! You is on'y has apartment in'na ghetto because we is say that is all you is good enough to has!" "Progressive" ideology only lets you progress as far as they say you may....
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It's funny you put out an outline but you've done nothing to work for these goals. What was that about not being like Chris?

atomik fyre said:
Wait... why do you constantly paraphrase people like this? I assume you're supposed to be doing an impression of me when I said:



I'm not being mean, nor am I talking or typing in an affected voice. If anything I sound a lot like you when I talk, but w/ less of a southern twang as I was raised about 5 hours north of you. I also wasn't saying any of that to be mean, I was being real about your situation. Sorry, it sucks, but the only that can fix any of it is you.
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It could have been me who pointed how that he made no money to buy a hair piece let alone an apartment or the throat injury he got from being outside. Because, as we all know, I clearly have power in Bumfuck, Arkansas.
 
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atomik fyre said:
Wait... why do you constantly paraphrase people like this?
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Let's talk about this for a second. See, in this thread you've come here, Mr. Clast, in an attempt to sharpen your debating skills, or whatever your true motivation is if that's not it. We've all been polite, if harsh and unforgiving, in an attempt to understand and debate with you. Yet you crop our reasonable (to us) responses wholesale and claim that all you hear of us is a bizarre variant of what appears to be Ebonics.

Why should we therefore take you seriously? I posit that you cease this activity at once. Not everyone in this thread is going to take you seriously because some of your views are extreme, but those of us who do take you seriously should be afforded the same courtesy.

If you can't do that, how do you expect to vanquish your enemies? They won't give you the time of day because any debate with you will be considered inherently unreasonable and a waste of their time.
 
Iconoclast, conservative politics is NOT your personal time machine. Your idiotic opinions are more of a hindrance than a help to a political philosophy already suffering from an image problem with young people, particularly online. I suggest you do some research so you don't come off looking like a fool who is stuck in the past and drag the rest of us down with you.
 
This thread has been great. Seriously. I mean, when I was a kid, my Dad would tell me not to make other people sound stupid if I was describing their opposition to me. I understood as a child that I had to make people who opposed me sound somewhat reasonable and yet you as a near 40-year old man straw man the shit out of people by describing their speech patterns as some mixture of Gollum and a minstrel show stereotype.

I mean, wow, just wow.
 
chimpchan said:
Iconoclast, conservative politics is NOT your personal time machine. Your idiotic opinions are more of a hindrance than a help to a political philosophy already suffering from an image problem with young people, particularly online. I suggest you do some research so you don't come off looking like a fool who is stuck in the past and drag the rest of us down with you.
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Pretty much everyone, no matter where they are politically, has shown that they understand the importance of change. So no worries there.
 
Pine Tar said:
This thread has been great. Seriously. I mean, when I was a kid, my Dad would tell me not to make other people sound stupid if I was describing their opposition to me. I understood as a child that I had to make people who opposed me sound somewhat reasonable and yet you as a near 40-year old man straw man the shit out of people by describing their speech patterns as some mixture of Gollum and a minstrel show stereotype.

I mean, wow, just wow.
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I think we should give him a break. After all, you'd be pissed off too if those thieving Hobbitses stoles your watermelon.
 
Two years ago I was saving money towards my dream (still a long way from my goal, admittedly, but a fairly respectable nestegg--I could have probably afforded the wig, anyway) when (as I have mentioned) my idiot brother stole my checks and drained my bank account. I can't have a checkbook or credit cards anymore. My mom now controls my pursestrings, which makes doing business and doing purchases a lot harder, and it's all His Stupidness' fault. If I went out and got a job tomorrow, my wages would be (according to my rough calculations) garnished for the next twenty years.

The tone I am affecting is sort of a cross between Rush Limbaugh's "new castrati" voice and the "wimpy guy" Andrew Dice Clay does in his act. Back in the day I often performed impromptu stand-up in the cafeteria during mealtime. They loved me. Another reason I miss college....
 
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