🎨 Artcow Iconoclast / Jonathan Mack Sweet - The Chris-Chan of Arkansas

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atomik fyre said:
What do you mean by "perfect composition"? Because all it is being used for here in this discussion is relate to the art needing to be "readable" and have "design flow" which are, well, necessary to express thoughts through comics.



A) You know how much you sound like Chris when you say this, right?
B) How many comic artists do you think get by on "charm" if they don't also have the necessary skill of comic composition?



Black clothes against dark backgrounds you say? Well you're in luck, Jeff Smith has drawn a picture of Tesla (lower left hand corner) in a black suit against a black background all in shocking black and white! Look at how easy it is to see!

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Liberals aren't holding you back on becoming a famous cartoonist, you are.
You and only your adherence to your "charming" and hard to parse "style" are keeping you from reaching the actual goals you wish to reach.
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His whole style schtick makes me think "typical tartlet".
 
The_Iconoclast said:
I will, but it'll take some time to process mentally. After all, I was ready to take my bosses to court over this. I might still get them on some small charge...but learning the sketch could actually be real takes a lot out of my defense, and would impact any settlement money I hope to gain. I don't ask to win every time, as Troy suggests, but I would like to have enough saved up to finally get out from under my brother's thumb. He makes Our Favorite LOLCoiw look like a goddamn [cwc]heartsweet[/cwc] by comparison.


It wasn't meant to be funny. I was very serious. The word I believe you're looking for is "exaggerated". If you take the progressive socialist liberal ideology to its logical extreme, you get buried in a mess of misery, corruption and weird, oppressive rules. I've used the same style of argument in comic "episodes" I've written about gay marriage and gun control. The outcomes I purport are so over-the-top they are hilarious, but you can't forget, this is what these people want for America. My work is about helping people see what a sick joke the left's ideas are, so they won't vote for them, and we can keep the poison of change from overtaking this nation.

The only thing I've learned from my mistakes is that moving on is a ploy. It only makes things worse. I'm better off going backwards in life and establishing my beachhead firmly in the past.
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Wow. You felt the need to explain that "Occupy Mall Street" is a "satire" of Occupy Wall Street. It was already blatant, an then you needed to just hammer in the point even more. Do you assume that your readers are idiots? Explaining the joke ruins the joke. It's like me saying "OK, there's this guy named IconoLast who hates liberals a lot and makes a total fool of himself. And he's based on a guy named Iconoclast who does those things but isn't as blatant as the strawman dumb guy IconoLast. Hawhawhaw, isn't that cutting edge satire, lol!"
 
Randall Fragg said:
Wow. You felt the need to explain that "Occupy Mall Street" is a "satire" of Occupy Wall Street. It was already blatant, an then you needed to just hammer in the point even more. Do you assume that your readers are idiots? Explaining the joke ruins the joke. It's like me saying "OK, there's this guy named IconoLast who hates liberals a lot and makes a total fool of himself. And he's based on a guy named Iconoclast who does those things but isn't as blatant as the strawman dumb guy IconoLast. Hawhawhaw, isn't that cutting edge satire, lol!"
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"Ha ha, I get the irony and the joke." :roll:
 
The_Iconoclast said:
I have studied psychology. They tried forcing me into counseling, as I said. I went in for a preliminary appointment and quickly realized it was a ploy to palm me off on someone else, when it would have been far easier and less expensive to handle the dispute in-house. I was then told I needed to pay for the real session, and it was all I could do not to tell that little pinhead at judicial affairs to go stick it in his bald monkey ass. Even if I'd shelled out the $500, they would have come up with more hoops for me to jump through. I have also studied on the Sixth Amendment and copyright law. The copy editor who levied the charge was not present during my hearing and never questioned once. That sounds suspicious to me. Having my ex's dad the lawyer in my corner would have been a huge help, but I'd ruined that by making a mess of things with her.
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Ok, allow me to pose you a question about your counseling. What sort of questions did they ask you and what inventories did they make you take?
 
The_Iconoclast said:
The same-sex marriage story was particularly inspired... It's about a young lover who, to win a girl's heart, starts an Occupy-style rally for lower-class rights. For the speeches I took actual lines I've heard from gay rights supporters and simply changed a few words here and there. For example: "I was taught all my life being poor was a source of shame. I even prayed to die, I was so miserable. I dream of the day I am able to walk down the street holding my upper-class partner's hand and not be stared at like some freak". The joke being that the city literally grinds to a halt because all its workers have walked off and joined the protest, when you know no one in reality would take such a movement seriously, and the kid would be arrested for trespassing in twenty minutes.
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That fails as a satire of gay marriage because I'm pretty sure dating between social classes is not all that controversial unless you're an 1880s aristocrat. If anything it supports gay marriage by comparing it to something that's fairly normal in today's society.

The_Iconoclast said:
It's working juuuuuuust fine. When the changeoids all fall screaming off the edge of the cliff, I'll still be standing somewhere at half-past 1997, laughing at them.
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"Phhht, horseless carriages? They'll never catch on. I'll be laughing at that damn fool Ford all they way to the bank!"
"Haw, look at those foolish krauts with their newfangled machine guns! Those things can't compete with good old fashioned British discipline! Get ready boys, we're going over the top! CHAAAAARRRGE!"
 
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Randall Fragg said:
That fails as a satire of gay marriage because I'm pretty sure dating between social classes is not all that controversial unless you're an 1880s aristocrat. If anything it supports gay marriage by comparing it to something that's fairly normal in today's society.
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His idea of "Satire" is just like Eric Cartman's idea of Christian Rock, just replace a few words in texts with other words, and ta-da!, it magically became a satire.
 
It's working juuuuuuust fine. When the changeoids all fall screaming off the edge of the cliff, I'll still be standing somewhere at half-past 1997, laughing at them.
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Yeah the glory days of the Heaven's Gate cult suicides, Princess Diana, James Stewart and Mother Theresa dying, and the US finally apologized for the Tuskegee Syphilis Experiment after nearly two decades of pretending it never happened.

Yup everything was flawless.
 
DrChristianTroy said:
Yeah the glory days of the Heaven's Gate cult suicides, Princess Diana, James Stewart and Mother Theresa dying, and the US finally apologized for the Tuskegee Syphilis Experiment after nearly two decades of pretending it never happened.

Yup everything was flawless.
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Don't forget the North Hollywood Shootout and the episode of Pokemon that gave a ton of kids seizures.
 
DrChristianTroy said:
Yeah the glory days of the Heaven's Gate cult suicides, Princess Diana, James Stewart and Mother Theresa dying, and the US finally apologized for the Tuskegee Syphilis Experiment after nearly two decades of pretending it never happened.

Yup everything was flawless.
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Everyone knows that the 90's was a time of magic when you could screw in bathroom stalls with no repercussions, you could stalk young women, and the magical aura of Saint Regan protected people like Iconoclast from the horrors of Liberalism until he was kicked out of university for plagiarism by the communist hoards.
 
Goddessoftheshire said:
Everyone knows that the 90's was a time of magic when you could screw in bathroom stalls with no repercussions, you could stalk young women, and the magical aura of Saint Regan protected people like Iconoclast from the horrors of Liberalism until being he was kicked out of university for plagiarism by the communist hoards.
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Which was still in the 90's but that was because of TV-14 becoming a thing.
 
The_Iconoclast said:
Miserable and wrecked, thanks to the cancer of change...
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That's not a healthy world view to have Iconoclast. Change is needed to live a fulfilling lifestyle, something that you are clearly not living at the moment.

The_Iconoclast said:
POLITICS
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People don't like it when you're preachy and rude about your political views. If you're going to have strong opinions like that, be civil about expressing them at the very least.

Iconoclast, you strike me as someone who has the means to be smart but you're not utilizing those means at all. You need to embrace change, acknowledge your shortcomings, admit that you've made mistakes in life, stop living in the past and strive to be a better person. That sounds sappy, I know, but it's what you've got to do. It's either that or Marvin or someone is going to have to make an "Iconoclast" sub-forum.

Mind you, I'm trying to sound as polite as possible almost solely because you chose a cool Greek word as your handle and that it would be tragic to see another person become CWC. My tolerance for BS is very low and you crossed it when you started making these asinine posts last Wednesday.
 
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Ultimately, Iconoclast, you have to ask yourself two things.

1. Am I making this comic for myself, or for an audience?

If the latter, then stop pigheadedly ignoring their critique. They're trying to help you by showing you what needs to be improved. If you're deadset on retaining your "charm" despite the fact it's neither charming, nor aesthetically pleasing in the least, then it's clear that you're only making this comic for yourself. In which case, stop posting it because nobody wants to see it.

2. Why does everyone keep pointing out my fallacious logic, stubbornness, and general stupidity?

Because you're stubborn, stupid, and full of fallacious logic.
 
Chelonian said:
Ok, allow me to pose you a question about your counseling. What sort of questions did they ask you and what inventories did they make you take?
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He didn't receive any counseling. He left before it could start because he thought it was a "trick." Hence his problems.
 
I notice you did not deign to reply to my post. Therefore I am winning, and it feels awesome. Come at me bro.
 
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