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The only way I will go to a psychiatrist is if the people who hurt me are also present. I want to let them see what they've done to me, look them in the face. and tell them what monsters they are and what they deserve.


Because it wasn't my fault. I wasn't perfect, sure, but there comes a point when they have to say, "You know, we've punished him enough. Let's let him come back for a visit, have a nice meal, talk to a few nice girls."


The faculty advisor is still there, and as long as she remains in power, I can't set foot on campus without being arrested. Once I have her ousted, I can finally have access to the lab equipment I need.


No, I won't. I'll be sitting in my comfortable little bookshop, which I own and manage... bought with my legal settlement taken out of my former boss' 300-lb. hide. And I will sell copies of my new book with a complimentary pair of underwear enclosed, because it's so scary you might need to change your pants. :briefs:


More importantly aren't you a deviant brony who is attracted to animals?
 
Window wasn't supposed to be anything really deep. It was based on a dream I had, and it played just as it written, like a silly romantic comedy. The concept of a man enamored with a teenage girl with rainbow hair intrigued me.
There's nothing wrong with working on stories based on weird one-off ideas or dreams or whatever.

(Though, um, I'm sure people may have already pointed out to you that the whole teen thing is a bit creepy.)

I'm a very strong supporter of that sort of writing. I tend to encourage people to just pick those brilliant ideas they have and work them into great stories. But the thing is, you need more than just a single weird cool idea. You need shovelfuls of smaller good ideas. You need interesting and believable storytelling to fill the rest of the pages. That's part of the whole process of developing those ideas further - making sure that those cool ideas are buried in the sort of stories that those ideas deserve.

If you didn't like it, fine, but, I think the Stephen King crack was very uncalled for. :'(
Oh, please don't take it too badly! You should at least be happy that you managed to make me extremely vaguely think of King. Some of the feel in the story actually reminded me a little bit of Everything's Eventual collection. Seriously, go to the library, pick it up, and look at all of the millions of things King does right in that collection, and where you failed.
 
@The_Iconoclast : Jon, you will never get anything out of the people who wronged you, you're trapped in redneck Bumfuck, MO with your toxic family and your bubble of delusion and life will not get better until you leave everything behind. Turn off Limbaugh, shave the sideburns, hug a puppy, go to the city and see the real world, find a hippy liberal goddess you can love and grow dreadlocks with :heart-full:

@All : Here's some reading material, I don't think I've seen it in the thread yet:
- Wikipedia user page (link)
- Scratchpad Wikia (link)
 
@The_Iconoclast : Jon, you will never get anything out of the people who wronged you, you're trapped in redneck Bumfuck, MO with your toxic family and your bubble of delusion and life will not get better until you leave everything behind. Turn off Limbaugh, shave the sideburns, hug a puppy, go to the city and see the real world, find a hippy liberal goddess you can love and grow dreadlocks with :heart-full:

@All : Here's some reading material, I don't think I've seen it in the thread yet:
- Wikipedia user page (link)
- Scratchpad Wikia (link)

And to think I live in the same state as him. I'll just enjoy my heathen lifestyle of barbecue, baseball and beer. The Three B's of how to enjoy a summer.
 
I'm probably going to catch a lot of shit from this but I read the first page of Windows on the Amazon Peek feature and....I actually really like his writing style. I don't know what the book is about or how the rest holds up but after the first page I was curious as to what happened next. His art still sucks bricks through a straw though.
 
So hurting those you believe hurt you is somehow worth more to you then your own mental health and well-being? Dude, talk about messed up priorities. You should focus on fixing yourself first and foremost. Not for them, but for you. A healthy mind in a healthy body.

The best revenge is living well. Every day you spend bitching about those who were mean to you, is a day lost. And it means they won and you lost. There's no better way to get even with them then to get your shit together and have a jolly ol' good time, ignoring their existence altogether. Getting some help with this, in the form of a psychiatrist, counselor or what-have-you, would be a very good step in the right direction!

Not for them... for YOU. Only you can change you. ;)

The best revenge is living well.... never were truer words spoken Satan! I am agnostic about a lot of spiritual things, but the one thing that I truly believe in is karma.. what you put out into the world will eventually, in one form or another, find its way back to you.
Iconoclast, I am truly sorry that people have hurt you. People have wronged me too in the past. But I find that working hard and living well is indeed the best revenge, or behaving in a way the opposite people have wronged me have behaved. The path to revenge leads, if not to a prison sentence/ restraining order, to a life filled with anger and sadness. Id quit while your ahead, personally.
 
The only way I will go to a psychiatrist is if the people who hurt me are also present. I want to let them see what they've done to me, look them in the face. and tell them what monsters they are and what they deserve.

What you want isn't always what you need. Might it be nice to do that? Yes. But you need to get your priorities straight, and get your life on track first.

Because it wasn't my fault. I wasn't perfect, sure, but there comes a point when they have to say, "You know, we've punished him enough. Let's let him come back for a visit, have a nice meal, talk to a few nice girls."
Didn't they say a stipulation of coming back was going to counseling? Do that, get your head straight, then get on with it.

The faculty advisor is still there, and as long as she remains in power, I can't set foot on campus without being arrested. Once I have her ousted, I can finally have access to the lab equipment I need.
Nah, you'll still be on the banned list. And anyway, your plan is to just sit around and twiddle your thumbs until she retires?

No, I won't. I'll be sitting in my comfortable little bookshop, which I own and manage... bought with my legal settlement taken out of my former boss' 300-lb. hide. And I will sell copies of my new book with a complimentary pair of underwear enclosed, because it's so scary you might need to change your pants. :briefs:
That's a nice fantasy. And it's good to dream. But what accomplishments have you made toward attaining that goal in the last 15 years? I bet if I had asked you five years ago what your future will be like in five years, you would have said the same thing. Except here you are, holed up in your mom's house, rambling about the same old conspiracies on the web, with nothing to show for it.
 
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It may have been mentioned, but if someone could be a dear and fill me in.....
Iconoclast, what did you do exactly to be kicked out of your college? Was it a problem with another student? It sounds like you like the head of your college about as much as Chris likes Mary Lee Walsh.
And if you could have you revenge, who would it be on, and what form would it take (assuming all the laws in the country were suspended for about a month or so?)
 
If that were true, I'd never have become a journalist or sold lawnmowers. All my bosses have been childish mental defectives. I just have to learn to either deal with it, or figure out how to crush them. Forums like this sharpen my debating skills because I learn how to dodge every argument and wear down my opponent. I'm dealing with hard-core liberals at my old alma mater-- people I can't afford to lose with, people who are gunning for me, people who sincerely want to keep me down. They control resources I need, and I have to come up with a plan to take them. They've sacrificed strength for grace, and I think that's the key to defeating them.

Ok... no, just no, i am sorry if i sound rude here, but i don't know what the fuck you're thinking, a discussion or debate about a certain topic or issue is not about "crushing your oponents" or about "defeating them" i honestly have no idea what the fuck you're talking about by saying those things.

First of all, a debate or discussion, is when a group of people argue about certain topic with the intention of understanding all the points of view that the different parties have, and based on those points of view, trying to find a way to resolver or answer said topics or issues. The outcome of a debate depends upon consensus or some formal way of reaching a resolution, rather than the objective facts as such.

I mean, what the fuck, you literally said that your master plan to debate is to act like a children and dodge every arguments by using straw man arguments, non sequitur arguments and ad nauseam arguments. I feel that i am wasting my time by explaining this to you, but god damn, the fact that you use that as some sort of master strategy that you have planned in every detail, and that you truly believe that it works in real life, makes it something pretty fucked up, you have some serious problems man, jesus.

TL;DR acting like a children and "dodging every argument" that people say to you, is NOT an strategy to argue, is just a pack of fallacies (in other words, it's bullcrap) that you use to convience yourself that other people is plotting against you because you're too stuborn to actually do something about your problems.
 
She phoned me. Hey, I don't make the rules. That is how The System works. My girlfriend left me not because I was out-of-date, when I told her about a deep personal loss. Of course, once again, no one says one bad word against the girl--oh, no, she's not a heartless little whore, why, she's a feminist icon. Calling up random men to spank off is embracing her sexuality, and running out on men is empowering. The System strikes again.

You know why I didn't know about that remake? No one saw it. It was crap. Dudley Moore was far funnier and more talented that some reality show d-bag could ever hope to be.
Russell Brand was never on a reality show. He became famous through stand up comedy and his radio show. Are you even trying anymore? And it turns out that the Arthur was not only a mild success but it made back its budget. Hardly Avatar but to dismiss it as "nobody saw it" is insulting to people that not only worked hard but have done with more than you.

Also you keep mentioning "feminist icon." Do you know what icon actually means? Were you dating Carrie Brownstein? You can't keep saying she's an icon when you don't mention a name and nobody has heard of her.

Can't let things go, #176 of the many reasons she left.
 
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- Scratchpad Wikia (link)
Oh yeah, one thing that sprung into my mind, @The_Iconoclast:

Our fine forum is following the antics of one Moleman9000, who has also written some literature and is working on his own world-building project. Now, his particular project is totally weird and gross and many would call it pretty offensive, but I totally don't condemn him for using his energies for such a project. Worldbuilding is a good hobby for everyone. (Better for him to do that stuff than to get drunk and go kick some grannies down, right?)

Now - the thing is, Moleman has set up at least two wikis for his projects already at Wikia (one for his fiction franchise and another for his "rap battles" stuff).

My question is, wouldn't it be a high time for you to get your stuff off of Scratchpad Wikia and set up a proper, separate Wikia site for your own stuff???

Because as weird as your stuff is, I genuinely believe it's actually better and more worthwhile than Moleman's stuff. Seriously. I really encourage you to get this stuff a-rolling. Besides, I'm sure that since you've been doing stuff in wikis for a very long time, I'm sure you're more than qualified to do this stuff, more so than Moleman even.

Just some kind advice.
 
Iconoclast is that, if the stratchpad wikia is to be believed, and I'm doing the math right, you have produced over 2500 pages of comics!

I assume each story is all done by you and you use a series of pen names for the writer, penciler, colorist, ect. (also, why do you do this?)

Now I may take issue with the readability of some of your layouts and some of your anatomy, but man, over 2500 pages! Since only 2005? That's dang impressive @The_Iconoclast

What is your process?
 
Hard work, dicipline, and much patience. I write a script, I go through two or three drafts of storyboards, and then I pencil a finished page. I scan it, ink and color with MS Paint. It sounds simple but it can be agonizing when I'm not happy with the look of a panel or the joke falls flat or when a character insists on talking too much and the text takes up most of a panel. I credit a crew made up of anagrams of my own name to make it look like I have a staff, just for my own amusement. It was sort of a one-time joke that carried on for the next few years.

If the colors are too bright for some of you, I did a few issues in black and white. Here's one. Funny, I always thought colors were supposed to be bright, but then, remember, I had no formal art training.

Some of the feel in the story actually reminded me a little bit of Everything's Eventual collection....go to the library, pick it up, and look at all of the millions of things King does right in that collection, and where you failed.
I have the book, but I don't see the resemblance. Actually, it's closer to "The Moving Finger" in Nightmares and Dreamscapes...which isn't believable, and that's the point. If logic prevailed the story would be two pages long. A guy sees a finger moving in his sink and calls a plumber. Boring. If it were written twenty years later he could have used a camera phone to take its picture. I think you're reading too much into it, and your nasty little comments might end up costing me sales and money in the long run. You're taking bread out of my family's mouth with your review, do you realize that?

So hurting those you believe hurt you is somehow worth more to you then your own mental health and well-being?
Yes. In fact, it would go a great way towards restoring my self-confidence watching them squirm and cry and beg for mercy at my feet.

The best revenge is living well.
No, the best revenge is keeping my enemies from living well by taking everything away from them. They don't want me in their world, enjoying their fancy little elitist perks, so I will do whatever I can to get those things away from them and take them for myself. That is what will make me happy and healthy.

Never.

@The_Iconoclast shave the sideburns
I tried that, but I looked too much like my late father for comfort. Reason #1 my ex left me-- I told her about his death, and it broke the first rule of college dating--no blah-blah about personal stuff (at least for the guy--if the girl does it, it's okay).

I have two dogs already. They'd get jealous.

@The_Iconoclastgo to the city and see the real world
You mean a place where I'll pay higher taxes, deal with crime and violence, can't turn on my lights at a certain hour because I might confuse a stupid sea turtle, can only have seven bullets in my gun, and am not allowed to have a large soft drink on the street or even get salt on the table in a restaurant? No, thanks.

@The_Iconoclast, find a hippy liberal goddess you can love and grow dreadlocks with
Who will then leave me for wearing the wrong color pants on a date (strike three with my ex, who was about as hippy-dippy as they come). Again, no, thanks.

Actually, some other people have suggested moving to a real Wikia, and I think it's a good idea. However, I need to finish some more character profiles and insert graphics before it's ready for the big time. You see, I have to share a computer with the rest of the family and I don't get as much time for web-building as I like. I'm behind as it is (and I'm afraid being on boards like this can't help, even if I am getting some great ideas).
 
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No, the best revenge is keeping my enemies from living well by taking everything away from them. They don't want me in their world, enjoying their fancy little elitist perks, so I will do whatever I can to get those things away from them and take them for myself. That is what will make me happy and healthy.

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You have problems man, some really serious problems.
 
No, the best revenge is keeping my enemies from living well by taking everything away from them. They don't want me in their world, enjoying their fancy little elitist perks, so I will do whatever I can to get those things away from them and take them for myself. That is what will make me happy and healthy.

You are wrong. There's no happiness in causing unhappiness. There's no joy in taking away the joy of others. Besides... lets be fair here: you don't have the means, the power nor the drive to implement any form of revenge on any of these people. So why not let it go? Letting go of these things is of vital importance to your own personal well-being. You cannot allow yourself to dwell on the past, when the future is right here, right now.

Make of it what you will, but your priority ought to be your own happiness, rather then anyone else's unhappiness. This is no way to live a life. I advice you to get professional help and talk to someone who has studied psychology. Ask him or her for advice. They will be able to give you better advice then the type of ideas your own brain appears to come up with. ;)

Just give it a try. It's worth it. You have nothing to lose at this point, but a lot to win. All you are doing now is making yourself miserable and chasing ghosts, when you should be chasing life instead! Just give it a try.

What would you do if you had your revenge tomorrow? If they did actually "squirm at your feet" the way you want them to? Think of what you'd do. Then go do that, and forget about the revenge part altogether.
 
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