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All of the TV shows that Sweet put under the "TV-S&L" category are inspired by and are ultimately of Japanese origin. Is this another example of Sweet's apparent racism, or is it just because they feature giant monsters vs robots fighting as a prominent (and at least to kids, awesome) part of every episode?
Nah, I doubt he knew that.

Yeah, that's all on you, buddy. Again--up to the same old stale, tired tricks for fifteen, 20 years. There comes a point where you cross a line between silly fratboy pranks ("Hey, duhh--let's break that crazy kid down the hall's door lock by jamming a roll'a pennies in it, hurr hurr hurr") and full-blown, prosecutable crimes (attempted murder, sexual solicitation). There is something deeply, stupidly wrong with you people, and I would love to see some of you locked up. :twisted: AUGH YEAH

So here's the first reference to the assassination by trash can incident.

Well, I need the money, why else? I've given away most of my short stories free to online magazines or my website. I discovered Amazon Kindle about four years too late. I thought, hey, I can put something from my slush pile out there and gin up some fast royalties while I finish my next novel (which has been five years, three rewrites, and a computer crash in the making, and I'm still not quite happy with it). I'm not even sure how much it's made, or where those few cents in royalties go now that I've closed my bank account (electronic payments, my butt--I like a paper check I can hold, maybe show off to folks a little, something I endorse with my name. I have a special check-signing pen and everything!).
And so he does have a reason why he still uses a checkbook and wonders how his brother keeps stealing his money.
 
Jon Sweets said:
(electronic payments, my butt--I like a paper check I can hold, maybe show off to folks a little, something I endorse with my name. I have a special check-signing pen and everything!)

You cannot be fucking serious. Your brother knows your signature, has forged it to steal money from you on those novelty cheques you like and you're flipping the bird to the notion of holding a credit card? News flash Sweets, you can't buy street narcotics with a Visa, you stupid, retarded fuck. I suppose your brother could give it away in trade for narcotics [one time only] but the entire point of credit cards is that they're traceable. No drug dealer with an IQ above 80 is going to accept a credit card with an unknown balance as a trade off for precious meth, especially if they happen to answer to another dealer.
 
The check thing reminds me of reasons Sweet preferred old books - the tactile sensations associated with them:
[...] there's always old duffers like me who prefer the feel of paper under their fingertips and the smell of an old book...it's familiar, pleasant, like the waft of an old lover's perfume.

And of course, I guess the check thing is also another example of resistance to and difficulty with (technological) change. We're talking about someone who's waiting on a "geek" from tech support to figure out using a CD burner (iirc).
 
The check thing reminds me of reasons Sweet preferred old books - the tactile sensations associated with them:


And of course, I guess the check thing is also another example of resistance to and difficulty with (technological) change. We're talking about someone who's waiting on a "geek" from tech support to figure out using a CD burner (iirc).

That is still inexcusably retarded; pedestrian credit cards have existed since the 70's.
 
Wizard Needs Food said:
Well, I need the money, why else? I've given away most of my short stories free to online magazines or my website.

If you need money so bad, you can always get a job from a legit source rather than fall for another huckster or scam. It's really easy too; all you need to do is go to the nearest position as a Janitor and you'll be golden. You won't need to interact with people other than their messes, and you don't need to talk either!

Since you're lazy and want easy money though, I'm reasonably certain you will make an excuse while falling for a multi-level marketing scam or something.

Jon Making up Excuses said:
I discovered Amazon Kindle about four years too late.

It's never too late to use a service; in fact, sometimes it's better to be late in adopting a service, since then you can see if it has viability before going in.

You are no Tolstoy said:
I thought, hey, I can put something from my slush pile out there and gin up some fast royalties while I finish my next novel (which has been five years, three rewrites, and a computer crash in the making, and I'm still not quite happy with it).

I get the vibe that you haven't been working on that novel for the exact same period of time that you've stated. And honestly, I have the feeling it's probably the same story you've been writing forever: You as the protagonist try to get revenge on your IRL trolls as the antagonists. Your character will be as ironically horrible as you are, and yet we will still be expected to support this guy in the literature.

Let My Bro Steal my Money said:
I'm not even sure how much it's made, or where those few cents in royalties go now that I've closed my bank account (electronic payments, my butt--I like a paper check I can hold, maybe show off to folks a little, something I endorse with my name. I have a special check-signing pen and everything!).

The only statements I have towards this statement is laughter and pointing to what @MarvinTheParanoidAndroid stated on the matter. For fuck's sake, my 73 year old granny knows how electronic payments work; she's been using a debit card for actual decades. You are more technically incompetent than a woman whose childhood took place in the backdrop of WWII and Korea. She is twice your age and is somehow getting this "new technology" literally orders of magnitude quicker than you.

I must be prime, since I cannot even. Not in the face of this.

And of course, I guess the check thing is also another example of resistance to and difficulty with (technological) change. We're talking about someone who's waiting on a "geek" from tech support to figure out using a CD burner (iirc).

Didn't he say that he's used CD Burners in the past? How come he doesn't know how to use it again? I think this might be yet another full on lie. He's been doing more of those lately.
 
How come he doesn't know how to use it again?
It's probably due to different equipment, and given Sweet's skill with tech, I wouldn't be surprised if he has some difficulties. Awhile back in the thread, Sweet was quoted as saying:
Sweet said:
I have a CD-ROM burner now. I just don't know if it's compatible with my Win 6.0 equipment. I still have yet to hear back from the geek at Computer Depot about transferring my files.

Hopefully by now, he's figured out that one can just plug one into the USB port (assuming it's an external USB one), and using it should be straightforward from there - especially on a user friendly OS like Windows. It's not like using CLI-only Unix there.
 
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Gad ....

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...zooks.

Oh, for reference, what Jon is talking about is Coal Black and de Sebben Dwarves.

EDIT: Ohai, follow up:

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There's no lower class white, blacks or gays on TV?
Shameless, for one, has all three. Off the top of my head, Raising Hope, My Name is Earl, and The Middle are just recent examples on network television. I don't even watch that much TV,but I'm aware of their existence.
 
Gotta love how he's complaining about the princess thing. News flash, princesses are kind of Disney's thing. Have been for a long time. That's one of their biggest money makers. They likely won't be stopping anytime soon.

And besides, she only actually became a princess at the end. Before that, she was a waitress.
 

He must have been pretty pissed at Mulan then, since the protagonist was not only a woman, but also not white as well. I wonder if he also was leery about them Arabs in Aladdin.

And good job on not only misunderstanding that Coal Black was meant to be horribly racist, but to also prove you yourself to be horribly racist. I just love how you think black people should only ever look like golliwogs.

Oh, for reference, what Jon is talking about is Coal Black and de Sebben Dwarves.

EDIT: Ohai, follow up:

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By the way, Tiana was a waitress at first, and only became a princess when she married the prince at the end. Not sure if her background was known prior to the movie being released though.

As an aside, Disney did try going out of the PG - G pool. It was called the Black Cauldron. They also own the Pirates franchise as well, so they do dabble in darker stuff. The amount of ignorance here is amazing.
 
He must have been pretty pissed at Mulan then, since the protagonist was not only a woman, but also not white as well. I wonder if he also was leery about them Arabs in Aladdin.
No doubt he thought the characters in Mulan should have looked like Mickey Rooney in yellowface and the cast of Aladdin should have been violent religious zealots with turbans and AK's.

And good job on not only misunderstanding that Coal Black was meant to be horribly racist, but to also prove you yourself to be horribly racist. I just love how you think black people should only ever look like golliwogs.
Now Jonny told us that racist caricatures aren't really racist, and he knows racism 'cause he grew up in the 'hood, yo. Why won't you take his word for it, you filthy liberal progressive?

As an aside, Disney did try going out of the PG - G pool. It was called the Black Cauldron. They also own the Pirates franchise as well, so they do dabble in darker stuff. The amount of ignorance here is amazing.
To be fair, The Black Cauldron was a colossal failure and I think Sweetums was only talking about animated films. Cartoons aimed at adults, or ones that don't hew closely to the Disney/Pixar/Dreamworks status quo, are in general a pretty hard sell, which is a damn shame for a medium in which literally anything is possible.

I could give him half a point for his commentary on Princess and the Frog, maybe. Tiana's whole schtick was that she was willing to work hard to realize her dream - owning a restaurant, a pretty mundane goal - and she didn't really give a fuck about being a princess or whatever. If anything it felt like Disney was missing the point by shoehorning Tiana into their princess line when her marrying into royalty had little to no bearing on her character. Sweetums, of course, fails to grasp the same thing (that Tiana is a restauranteur first and a princess second, if at all), and that Disney's target audience for the film was eight-year-old girls.

It's also super ironic that a brony of all things is griping about Disney princesses.
 
I think I have an idea why he looks down on Saban shows such as Power Rangers. It's because they are kid's shows that were liked by kids, not by adults. Sweet is a sophisticated man that prides himself on enjoying kid's shows that are liked by adults. As you all should know by know, Jon sweet jacks off to Kim Possible.
 
And, speaking of demented masturbatory fantasies, I present to you an excerpt of Tiresias.

TIRESIAS



Jonathan M. Sweet



CHAPTER ONE



THE STRANGER ON THE PORCH



1.



Sam Perkins eyed his visitor carefully, a mixture of apprehension and confusion decorating his face. “Beg your pardon?”

“I said I’d like to see your daughter Delilah,” answered the stranger in a quiet voice, his hands folded behind his back. “Could you send her out here, please?”

“There is no Delilah here.”

“So you’ve said,” replied the young man. “But I don’t b’lieve you.”

“What you do and what you don’t believe don’t matter a whit. There is no ‘Delilah’ living here. I don’t have a daughter, mister, just two boys—”

“She gi’ me this number, Mr. Perkins. And it turned up on my caller I.D. a year ago when she called me last, so I know at least one’a them calls come from this house, if not ever’ one. I’m presuming you lived here at least since last September, so it was your little girl—”

“I don’t have a little gir—”

“—who called my house.” The man on the porch’s color was high beneath a bronzeish complexion; whether from the sun or by his nationality Perkins couldn’t ascertain. He wore a pair of camouflage jeans and a parka the color of tree bark. His head was shaved and his mustache and goatee were trimmed close to the skin. Sam thought he looked a bit like that actor who played Slater on Saved By the Bell. His voice, previously soft, had risen angrily along with his hectic flush; realizing that, he resumed a civil tone. “She made some promises that it come high time she kept. I just want what’s rightfully mine, sir.”

“Mister—” Sam fumbled for the name, which he knew his guest had repeatedly given him during their several phone conversations, but his memory failed him. “I told you numerable times, I don’t have a daughter, only sons, and I don’t know no Delilah.”

“Mitcheson. Antonio Mitcheson,” supplied the young man. His wet, pink lips worked nervously as his hands stole from behind his back—they looked very large—and slid into his coat. “Nothing makes sense any more. I been fed so many lies I don’t know what I ought’a b’lieve.”

“Well, I can’t help what this Delilah girl done to you, son,” said Sam, who was looking nervously at Antonio and hoping desperately to see the ass of him headed off his doorstep, “ ’cause I never met her. But I’m sure it’s for the best you don’t find her. I’m betting she makes her own mama and daddy cry a smart of tears with her beha—”

“Shut up,” snarled Antonio, a .32 suddenly appearing in one meaty fist. “B’fore you end up the one crying ‘a smart’a tears’.”

Sam was strangely more bothered by Antonio’s ugly mimicking of his turn of phrase than the gun in his face. “You don’t want to do this.”

“You’re right; I don’t. You made me have to, by trying to turn me away with a pat on the head and an empty hand, you patronizing sumbitch. Delilah!” he bawled up the stairs. “Delilah! Got-damn it, girl, this is Antonio! Get your ass down them stairs! I come for that weekend you promised me four years ago!”

“Won’t do you no good,” said Sam matter-of-factly.

“She ain’t home? I can wait f’ her.”

“She ain’t home ’cause she don’t live here,” Sam replied tersely. The front door stood wide open behind him, and he could have easily escaped. He didn’t, partly because it didn’t come to him until too late, and more importantly, Drew and Milt were home. He didn’t want to leave them at the mercy of this bellowing, possibly homicidal fool. “I told you that what seems like a thousand times, and you don’t listen.”

“You’re lying!” roared Antonio. Taking note of the open door, he kicked it shut with one heavy boot hard enough to jar a picture off the wall, as if to say Try escaping now. “You ain’t telling the truth, and liars go straight to hell—along with whores!” He hollered Delilah’s name up the stairs again. Sam though maybe it was lucky for this girl that Antonio Mitcheson had come to the wrong house, because she would likely wind up at a bad end if he had found her and spirited her off someplace. All the while the .32 remained trained, unwaveringly, on Sam. “Call her down here, Mr. Perkins. Maybe she’ll listen to Daddy.”

“I can’t give you what I ain’t got,” answered Sam, “and you’ll want to put that gun down. My oldest son is a state trooper with the Alamo PD—”

“I don’t give a shit if he’s Christ the King come back for the Rapture—”

“—and he’s got a license to carry. If you just calm down—”

“—and go peaceable right into the back of a police car,” said Antonio sourly, “or a paddywagon, is what you mean. I ain’t crazy. I just want my girl!” Gun or no, he looked like a baby denied a sweet and about to pitch a major hissy-fit. “I want what rightfully belongs to me! I want my world to make sense!” The gun dropped to his side, and the bald, distraught youth charged up several stairs, his heavy jackboots thudding on the landing. “De-li-laaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhh!” he shrieked in an unconscious imitation of Brando in A Streetcar Named Desire. All but the shirt-ripping, mused Sam. Under other circumstances, it’d be pants-crapping funny.

“Dad?” a sleep-slurred voice muttered from the dim light at the top of the stairs.

“What’s all the hollering about? That one of Drew’s friends making all that ruckus?”

Sam’s blood felt as thick as cold tar.
 
And, speaking of demented masturbatory fantasies, I present to you an excerpt of Tiresias.

TIRESIAS



Jonathan M. Sweet



CHAPTER ONE



THE STRANGER ON THE PORCH



1.



Sam Perkins eyed his visitor carefully, a mixture of apprehension and confusion decorating his face. “Beg your pardon?”

“I said I’d like to see your daughter Delilah,” answered the stranger in a quiet voice, his hands folded behind his back. “Could you send her out here, please?”

“There is no Delilah here.”

“So you’ve said,” replied the young man. “But I don’t b’lieve you.”

“What you do and what you don’t believe don’t matter a whit. There is no ‘Delilah’ living here. I don’t have a daughter, mister, just two boys—”

“She gi’ me this number, Mr. Perkins. And it turned up on my caller I.D. a year ago when she called me last, so I know at least one’a them calls come from this house, if not ever’ one. I’m presuming you lived here at least since last September, so it was your little girl—”

“I don’t have a little gir—”

“—who called my house.” The man on the porch’s color was high beneath a bronzeish complexion; whether from the sun or by his nationality Perkins couldn’t ascertain. He wore a pair of camouflage jeans and a parka the color of tree bark. His head was shaved and his mustache and goatee were trimmed close to the skin. Sam thought he looked a bit like that actor who played Slater on Saved By the Bell. His voice, previously soft, had risen angrily along with his hectic flush; realizing that, he resumed a civil tone. “She made some promises that it come high time she kept. I just want what’s rightfully mine, sir.”

“Mister—” Sam fumbled for the name, which he knew his guest had repeatedly given him during their several phone conversations, but his memory failed him. “I told you numerable times, I don’t have a daughter, only sons, and I don’t know no Delilah.”

“Mitcheson. Antonio Mitcheson,” supplied the young man. His wet, pink lips worked nervously as his hands stole from behind his back—they looked very large—and slid into his coat. “Nothing makes sense any more. I been fed so many lies I don’t know what I ought’a b’lieve.”

“Well, I can’t help what this Delilah girl done to you, son,” said Sam, who was looking nervously at Antonio and hoping desperately to see the ass of him headed off his doorstep, “ ’cause I never met her. But I’m sure it’s for the best you don’t find her. I’m betting she makes her own mama and daddy cry a smart of tears with her beha—”

“Shut up,” snarled Antonio, a .32 suddenly appearing in one meaty fist. “B’fore you end up the one crying ‘a smart’a tears’.”

Sam was strangely more bothered by Antonio’s ugly mimicking of his turn of phrase than the gun in his face. “You don’t want to do this.”

“You’re right; I don’t. You made me have to, by trying to turn me away with a pat on the head and an empty hand, you patronizing sumbitch. Delilah!” he bawled up the stairs. “Delilah! Got-damn it, girl, this is Antonio! Get your ass down them stairs! I come for that weekend you promised me four years ago!”

“Won’t do you no good,” said Sam matter-of-factly.

“She ain’t home? I can wait f’ her.”

“She ain’t home ’cause she don’t live here,” Sam replied tersely. The front door stood wide open behind him, and he could have easily escaped. He didn’t, partly because it didn’t come to him until too late, and more importantly, Drew and Milt were home. He didn’t want to leave them at the mercy of this bellowing, possibly homicidal fool. “I told you that what seems like a thousand times, and you don’t listen.”

“You’re lying!” roared Antonio. Taking note of the open door, he kicked it shut with one heavy boot hard enough to jar a picture off the wall, as if to say Try escaping now. “You ain’t telling the truth, and liars go straight to hell—along with whores!” He hollered Delilah’s name up the stairs again. Sam though maybe it was lucky for this girl that Antonio Mitcheson had come to the wrong house, because she would likely wind up at a bad end if he had found her and spirited her off someplace. All the while the .32 remained trained, unwaveringly, on Sam. “Call her down here, Mr. Perkins. Maybe she’ll listen to Daddy.”

“I can’t give you what I ain’t got,” answered Sam, “and you’ll want to put that gun down. My oldest son is a state trooper with the Alamo PD—”

“I don’t give a shit if he’s Christ the King come back for the Rapture—”

“—and he’s got a license to carry. If you just calm down—”

“—and go peaceable right into the back of a police car,” said Antonio sourly, “or a paddywagon, is what you mean. I ain’t crazy. I just want my girl!” Gun or no, he looked like a baby denied a sweet and about to pitch a major hissy-fit. “I want what rightfully belongs to me! I want my world to make sense!” The gun dropped to his side, and the bald, distraught youth charged up several stairs, his heavy jackboots thudding on the landing. “De-li-laaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhh!” he shrieked in an unconscious imitation of Brando in A Streetcar Named Desire. All but the shirt-ripping, mused Sam. Under other circumstances, it’d be pants-crapping funny.

“Dad?” a sleep-slurred voice muttered from the dim light at the top of the stairs.

“What’s all the hollering about? That one of Drew’s friends making all that ruckus?”

Sam’s blood felt as thick as cold tar.
This reads like something you might see in a creative writing course or workshop. It's cliché, but it's not deranged on its face, unlike Sweet's forum posts and his comics. Of course, you and I know that this is built on Sweet's fantasy of being phone-raped by a 14-year-old girl, but even viewed in that light it doesn't really do much to further illuminate Sweet's delusions. In my opinion, anyway.

P.S.- "Delilah," subtle.
 
And, speaking of demented masturbatory fantasies, I present to you an excerpt of Tiresias.

TIRESIAS



Jonathan M. Sweet



CHAPTER ONE



THE STRANGER ON THE PORCH



1.



Sam Perkins eyed his visitor carefully, a mixture of apprehension and confusion decorating his face. “Beg your pardon?”

“I said I’d like to see your daughter Delilah,” answered the stranger in a quiet voice, his hands folded behind his back. “Could you send her out here, please?”

“There is no Delilah here.”

“So you’ve said,” replied the young man. “But I don’t b’lieve you.”

“What you do and what you don’t believe don’t matter a whit. There is no ‘Delilah’ living here. I don’t have a daughter, mister, just two boys—”

“She gi’ me this number, Mr. Perkins. And it turned up on my caller I.D. a year ago when she called me last, so I know at least one’a them calls come from this house, if not ever’ one. I’m presuming you lived here at least since last September, so it was your little girl—”

“I don’t have a little gir—”

“—who called my house.” The man on the porch’s color was high beneath a bronzeish complexion; whether from the sun or by his nationality Perkins couldn’t ascertain. He wore a pair of camouflage jeans and a parka the color of tree bark. His head was shaved and his mustache and goatee were trimmed close to the skin. Sam thought he looked a bit like that actor who played Slater on Saved By the Bell. His voice, previously soft, had risen angrily along with his hectic flush; realizing that, he resumed a civil tone. “She made some promises that it come high time she kept. I just want what’s rightfully mine, sir.”

“Mister—” Sam fumbled for the name, which he knew his guest had repeatedly given him during their several phone conversations, but his memory failed him. “I told you numerable times, I don’t have a daughter, only sons, and I don’t know no Delilah.”

“Mitcheson. Antonio Mitcheson,” supplied the young man. His wet, pink lips worked nervously as his hands stole from behind his back—they looked very large—and slid into his coat. “Nothing makes sense any more. I been fed so many lies I don’t know what I ought’a b’lieve.”

“Well, I can’t help what this Delilah girl done to you, son,” said Sam, who was looking nervously at Antonio and hoping desperately to see the ass of him headed off his doorstep, “ ’cause I never met her. But I’m sure it’s for the best you don’t find her. I’m betting she makes her own mama and daddy cry a smart of tears with her beha—”

“Shut up,” snarled Antonio, a .32 suddenly appearing in one meaty fist. “B’fore you end up the one crying ‘a smart’a tears’.”

Sam was strangely more bothered by Antonio’s ugly mimicking of his turn of phrase than the gun in his face. “You don’t want to do this.”

“You’re right; I don’t. You made me have to, by trying to turn me away with a pat on the head and an empty hand, you patronizing sumbitch. Delilah!” he bawled up the stairs. “Delilah! Got-damn it, girl, this is Antonio! Get your ass down them stairs! I come for that weekend you promised me four years ago!”

“Won’t do you no good,” said Sam matter-of-factly.

“She ain’t home? I can wait f’ her.”

“She ain’t home ’cause she don’t live here,” Sam replied tersely. The front door stood wide open behind him, and he could have easily escaped. He didn’t, partly because it didn’t come to him until too late, and more importantly, Drew and Milt were home. He didn’t want to leave them at the mercy of this bellowing, possibly homicidal fool. “I told you that what seems like a thousand times, and you don’t listen.”

“You’re lying!” roared Antonio. Taking note of the open door, he kicked it shut with one heavy boot hard enough to jar a picture off the wall, as if to say Try escaping now. “You ain’t telling the truth, and liars go straight to hell—along with whores!” He hollered Delilah’s name up the stairs again. Sam though maybe it was lucky for this girl that Antonio Mitcheson had come to the wrong house, because she would likely wind up at a bad end if he had found her and spirited her off someplace. All the while the .32 remained trained, unwaveringly, on Sam. “Call her down here, Mr. Perkins. Maybe she’ll listen to Daddy.”

“I can’t give you what I ain’t got,” answered Sam, “and you’ll want to put that gun down. My oldest son is a state trooper with the Alamo PD—”

“I don’t give a shit if he’s Christ the King come back for the Rapture—”

“—and he’s got a license to carry. If you just calm down—”

“—and go peaceable right into the back of a police car,” said Antonio sourly, “or a paddywagon, is what you mean. I ain’t crazy. I just want my girl!” Gun or no, he looked like a baby denied a sweet and about to pitch a major hissy-fit. “I want what rightfully belongs to me! I want my world to make sense!” The gun dropped to his side, and the bald, distraught youth charged up several stairs, his heavy jackboots thudding on the landing. “De-li-laaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhh!” he shrieked in an unconscious imitation of Brando in A Streetcar Named Desire. All but the shirt-ripping, mused Sam. Under other circumstances, it’d be pants-crapping funny.

“Dad?” a sleep-slurred voice muttered from the dim light at the top of the stairs.

“What’s all the hollering about? That one of Drew’s friends making all that ruckus?”

Sam’s blood felt as thick as cold tar.
Y'know, without the byline, this reads as a mildly amusing mockery of his Ashlaaaay obsession. What kind of cognitive dissonance allows him to self-deprecate this much and still not be able to let it go?
 
Y'know, without the byline, this reads as a mildly amusing mockery of his Ashlaaaay obsession. What kind of cognitive dissonance allows him to self-deprecate this much and still not be able to let it go?
Noooo kidding. The fact that he wrote this without a shred of self-awareness is absolutely amazing.

I also thought this bit -
Jonathan M. Sweet: Master of Suspense said:
Sam thought he looked a bit like that actor who played Slater on Saved By the Bell.
was kind of a bizarre aside. Guy just had to cram a pop-culture reference in there somewhere, I guess.
 
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